Chic 20,830 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Goosey said: I believe it as well. For most of them, anyways. I don't see how it could be otherwise. She has flipped and flopped with the best of them. Anderson is democrat-leaning, but he can be quite impartial when it comes to the facts and reporting the news. He's an outstanding newsman who's out there right at the scene when need be, he's extremely knowledgeable, and he's respectable in that he asks the hard questions regardless of the candidate. He wants a better America, and he won't rest by endorsing someone he doesn't fully believe in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Blueboy said: like? Raising minimum wage to $15 would not increase profits for businesses, it would absolutely ruin them. Prices of everything in the country would go up proportionately. Fixed prices for ALL businesses will increase, and the businesses would examine this from a financial perspective, and adjust an activity level of the variable costs, which would be the workers. Let's take this example: SMALL BUSINESS SIMPLE INCOME STATEMENT (PER MONTH) ------------ Sales Revenue - $45,000 Costs of goods sold - $30,000 -------Gross Margin - $15,000 Fixed(salaries of min wage employees) - $7500 -------Income - $7500 If you DOUBLE the minimum wage, it would look like this: -----GROSS MARGIN - $15,000 Fixed(Salaries of min wage employees) - $15,000 -----Income - - $0 So this small business has a monthly income of $0. This business would have to take drastic measures in order to stay open, which would include: -Firing half of their employees, or -Raising prices of every item in the store And how would college graduates feel, when they are making the same amount of money as a high school graduate? Most jobs that require a bachelor's degree start out at around $15 an hour. Would these companies have to raise the salaries of their college graduates to keep afloat? Would every business have to increase their price? Would everyone in every market have to increase their costs, of everything? And there is an argument where if people have more money, they will spend more ,evening it out. The fact that people would be able to buy more items wouldn't mean that they would actually purchase more items. Someone that needs to buy a bouncy house for their child's birthday party is not going to buy two bouncy houses because they have more money. Someone that needs groceries is not going to buy two gallons of milk and have to drink them doubly as fast before the second one expires. But even with more activity level for businesses, the company will require more employees to manage the orders. They will raise direct labor/materials cost, and the cost of labor will double no matter what. They will have to sell much more in order to reach the same percentage of costs they had before. And while ending student debt sounds good, there are generally many problems to forgiving a major financial debt. That's billions of dollars in debt. I'm not well-versed in how the school systems operate, but.... Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Just got home, so going to read through some of the thread. Quick comment on visual impression: The split screen was NOT Donald's friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 okay, so I'm not from the US and I couldn't care less etc. but I can tell you that people hurrahing Hillary are more delusional than those who see Trump as the winner of the debate for the simple fact that almost everyone following is biased enough and unlike Trump's, Hillary's talk is one undecided voters tend to believe less and less the more she talks it, regardless of how convincing she may appear. he can not look any worse but she can exhaust the lesser-of-two-evils trust people are putting in her because, ultimately, she hasn't earned their genuine trust through consistency and decision-making. that's why Trump said all the bad things in the very beginning of his campaign and it's the reason he was(is?) getting more and more popular (to the disbelief of many) in the first place. he's basically winning through her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 tfw you're the 400lb guy that hacked the dnc ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, JDi said: he can not look any worse but she can exhaust the lesser-of-two-evils trust people are putting in her because, ultimately, she hasn't earned their genuine trust through consistency and decision-making. that's why Trump said all the bad things in the very beginning of his campaign and it's the reason he was(is?) getting more and more popular (to the disbelief of many) in the first place. he's basically winning through her. This is somewhat true from what I've seen. The bold part especially. However, a Trump win would be disastrous imo. The guy cannot even debate properly as shown by his poor performance tonight. He is a phenomenon. He's said things that would have ended other politician's careers a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Whispering said: Quick comment on visual impression: The split screen was NOT Donald's friend! "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, Whispering said: Just got home, so going to read through some of the thread. Quick comment on visual impression: The split screen was NOT Donald's friend! Actual reactions to the debate start on Page 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 OFF-T: I hate when posts get posted twice randomly in threads Anyone else get this problem? ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Yes, however, for a PRESIDENTIAL debate he acted in a laughable manner. If "not full rally mode" was that debate..... He's a complete embarrassment to anyone who has studied debate, speech, and the English language. "A very against police judge" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, Whispering said: "A very against police judge" Bigly. "I'm going to cut taxes bigly, but you are going to raise taxes bigly" (Okay, it was actually "big league". But someone had to explain this to me.) "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Trump 3,508 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 The words and what was said in the debate was what won it for Hillary. When you look past the E! News aspect of the debate tonight and the shade-throwing, Hillary was the only one that had any detailed plan. Trump was gun-ho about STOP AND FRISK, of all things, so whether or not the population of America can look past the mud-slinging, I don't know. Most people I know have no idea what policies are in place, and only vote based off of the latest scandal. But when you look at the debate tonight from the most objective standpoint possible, Hillary was clearly the more reasonable, logistical winner in a very uniform fashion. Main points to contend with would be Donald's dominating personality, but this faltered in moments where he was saying absolutely nothing. Most of the debate was Donald focusing on issues that had nothing to do with the actions taken as a president. He hardly debated. Depending on how you define what makes a winner in a debate, you could choose either one. You could choose someone who is loud, and even then you wouldn't be able to say he dominated her with his personality. She didn't change her personality the entire debate, like how Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio altered their personalities, where to many that appeared as weakness. She was tough. But you could vote for Donald because he shouted more... and even then, he didn't say anything of substance as to what he would do while in office. The following he said for race issues: -We need law and order -Stop & Frisk Hillary gave a 10-point bulletin of each issue necessary to improve race relations. If you're looking for someone who will pinpoint a plan for you down to the finest detail, then she's the only one that did it. Every point Trump had involved his company being successful, or he listed a very general idea that leaves the viewer to assume he has a good plan, but, why waste time telling us about it. So that approach is. "It hasn't worked for the past hundred years, when you know what they're going to do. So let's try it when you have no IDEA what I'm going to do!" And Trump really went on forever about Stop & Frisk, and was in support of it. That alone was outrageous, and in some candidacies could even be the sole cause for a lost election. Trump can say anything he wants to though because it panders to the community that unfortunately I live in: very simple, direct, build-a-wall, down with everyone else sorts of people, who don't understand anything about politics, they only understand the name-calling aspect and the hooting and hollering, and as long as there's a bigger proportion of them around, Trump might win. So, YIKES!!!!!! Ma ma pa pa pa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: So Trump, you succeeded in getting Obama to show his birth certificate? WOW.... And then Trump spent the next five years saying he didn't believe it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Just heard a stat that was interesting. Trump interrupted Hillary 26 times in 25 minutes at one point. That never plays well in debates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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