Do u believe what she says PI is abt?

[Aleks 3,946]

1 hour ago, kvnrp said:

But how akward would it be to scream in a song about Twitter tho

"It wasn't a like, it wasn't a like, it was a Perfect Illusion"

Touch me touch me don't be sweet, love me love me please retweet 

[Brainy 117]

In the nicest way, I don't trust her LOL its totally about him!!! 

[Seeka 12,372]

1 hour ago, kvnrp said:

But how akward would it be to scream in a song about Twitter tho

"It wasn't a like, it wasn't a like, it was a Perfect Illusion"

Love, love me, please retweet.

[FinnishGypsy 921]

Personally, here is my interpretation: Fame. With Gaga, it always comes back to fame:

1st album--TF: Whole persona was pure satire, mocking the absurdity of fame. From her "gimmicks" to the song/MV for "Paparazzi," she perfectly demonstrated the predictability of the general public, getting them to eat up her formulaic pop music while failing to demonstrate her remarkable vocal/artistic abilities.

2nd album--TFM: Continued theme, now more explicitly showing the dark side of fame, except now she has become so entrenched in her own satire that it has become difficult to separate her persona from her actual identity. "Bad Romance" was a song which brilliantly depicted her internal struggle at this time: the dichotomy between seeing the ugliness and disease of celebrity whilst simultaneously craving it more and more.

The dual EP covers validate this further: one side depicting the blonde pop persona of Gaga, while the other revealing the brokenness and internal darkness of Stefani. This brilliant EP always brings to mind the following quote by Nietzsche: "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."

3rd album--BTW: Beyond the obvious support for the LGBTQ community, many missed Gaga's attempt to also illustrate the underlying statement represented by the much-ridiculed album cover, wherein she is no longer a separate entity from a commercial product (as she had previously been able to keep separate with the dual covers of TFM): She, herself, now believes she was "born this way,"--half human (Stefani) and half commercial product/machine (Gaga). She can no longer distinguish the two identities.

This is further highlighted in the music video, wherein she herself is a skeleton--dancing and celebrating despite the death of her humanity. "Judas" was essentially BR 2.0--she's still in love with the fame that continues to betray her. Releasing "Marry the Night" as her final single for BTW was no mistake either--the music video, at last, showed fans a glimpse of how profoundly Stefani had been broken to become Gaga. And the lyrics, again, reaffirm how she had decided to embrace this change. 

4th album--AP: Gaga herself described the album as having "a lack of maturity and responsibility." She, after having displayed her vulnerability through TFM and BTW, essentially (intentionally) went back to square one, mirroring TF thematically. Hence, the songs largely returned to the general pop format as seen in her first album: with overarching superficial themes of sex, and leaving the listener to distinguish whether or not there was a deeper underlying message (which, of course, there was--particularly through "Aura." She is asking her audience: "Do you wanna see the girl who lives behind the aura?" She doesn't know anymore if even her fans care to see who she really is inside, buried beneath her public persona).

Then, "Applause" is essentially the sequel to "Paparazzi," and illustrates her pop entity's need, beyond all else, to be famous--receiving attention was her lifeblood. 

And now--PI: During her break from pop music, I believe Stefani the individual re-emerged, and realized that her love affair (or "bad romance") with fame wasn't real. The "love" she thought she was receiving from the general public, media and even many of her "fans" was inauthentic, as she eventually realized they did not care to see the real girl behind the aura--only the global superstar dominating charts.

However, once allowing herself time away from the haze of pop superstardom (I.e. "somewhere in all the confusion") she had an epiphany, and no longer cares to live for the applause. Hence she so clearly states: "I'm over the show, yeah at least now I know." That's why the single cover is, for the first time, back to basics for Stefani the artist, rather than Gaga. It is just her performing--and we can take her or leave her. She no longer desires to live in an illusion, no matter how perfect it may have seemed.

[kvnrp 48,353]

5 minutes ago, Aleks said:

Touch me touch me don't be sweet, love me love me please retweet 

 

Just now, Seeka said:

Love, love me, please retweet.

I completely forgot about that song

But I meant a bit more how people read way too much into simple likes, how people get really nasty because they are anonymous online, all that stuff

[FinnishGypsy 921]

30 minutes ago, arthurhmangum said:

What if she's not talking about Taylor, but she's talking about the "fans" that don't care about her as an artist, and only care about the charts? We were the perfect illusion all along. What kind of drag? 

 

 

That is, essentially, what I wound up writing later in this thread--only in the format of a university-length analysis. Probably not the best way to make my first ever post .

[sara57 3,018]

She said it wasn't about Taylor and I really don't know why we wouldn't believe it. She said it very clearly. Love is not the only thing she thinks and writes about, and no matter song has a lot of verses about love, it could just be a metaphor for something else. It wouldn't be a first time for her to do that. Meanings of some songs are not so obvious as we think. 

And she said a few times that Kevin Parker had an idea for this song first. So I really doubt he was thinking about Gaga & Taylor because he probably didn't know they had any problems. He was thinking about something else. 

And can't we just believe Gaga's words one? Why we have to question every thing LG says? 

[JbGaga 2,261]

I honestly don't know what or who this song is about. I feel like its to basic to have any hidden meanings lyrically... So I was and kind of still and left to assume its about Taylor. "Caught up in your show (Chicago Fire) But at least now I know it wasn't love it was a perfect Illusion" I mean I feel like this is very straight forward. Mabey that's why I don't love it. She's usually more interesting with her words.

[Phlop 4,773]

6 minutes ago, Lady Sara said:

She said it wasn't about Taylor and I really don't know why we wouldn't believe it. She said it very clearly. Love is not the only thing she thinks and writes about, and no matter song has a lot of verses about love, it could just be a metaphor for something else. It wouldn't be a first time for her to do that. Meanings of some songs are not so obvious as we think. 

And she said a few times that Kevin Parker had an idea for this song first. So I really doubt he was thinking about Gaga & Taylor because he probably didn't know they had any problems. He was thinking about something else. 

And can't we just believe Gaga's words one? Why we have to question every thing LG says? 

Just so happens she didnt work with Bloodpop and Kevin Parker until the breakup news came out. Its just too much of a coincidence. They legit were not in the picture until May. And this was clearly one of the newest songs recorded on the album.

edit: And Kevin Parker did the instrumental btw, not the lyrics

[JbGaga 2,261]

6 minutes ago, Lady Sara said:

She said it wasn't about Taylor and I really don't know why we wouldn't believe it. She said it very clearly. Love is not the only thing she thinks and writes about, and no matter song has a lot of verses about love, it could just be a metaphor for something else. It wouldn't be a first time for her to do that. Meanings of some songs are not so obvious as we think. 

And she said a few times that Kevin Parker had an idea for this song first. So I really doubt he was thinking about Gaga & Taylor because he probably didn't know they had any problems. He was thinking about something else. 

And can't we just believe Gaga's words one? Why we have to question every thing LG says? 

Yes because shes Lied and betrayed us a few to many times TBH

[JbGaga 2,261]

4 hours ago, arthurhmangum said:

What if she's not talking about Taylor, but she's talking about the "fans" that don't care about her as an artist, and only care about the charts? We were the perfect illusion all along. What kind of drag? 

 

 

I honestly think it could be.... I mean look how shes kept us away since ARTPOP. I think it might be about us. Which would be so ironic and wrong since we buy and support it. EWW can you even Imagin. I wold Burn My stand card

[RAMROD 110,040]

It might be about Kinney but ofc she can't say that, she was hoarding her engangement, which is normal, but now that it ends, it might be too sensitive to say. At least she didn't use snobby terms like Gwyneth does with "concious uncoupling".

[ReidOne 12,427]

To answer the first question...

Do U Believe What She Says PI Is Abt?

Yes, I do. But I also do not. At all. 

I believe it's about many, many things. And Gaga is playing several games with this release. But she is primarily providing 2 narratives (and social media isn't one of them... or is it? The social media theory follows #2 below in many ways): 

1) She broke off her engagement with Taylor immediately before releasing it. So yes, she's trying to market herself as a woman recently scorned, burned by love. She wants the GP to hear it and think it's about Taylor. So, in many ways, it is absolutely "about Taylor." 

2) She knows the Little Monsters better than that. And she knows that we know she would never drag Taylor for filth like that on a major first single release. But the irony is, if she isn't talking about Taylor, then who IS she talking about? And the answer is quite startling: she's talking about herself and also all of us. 

So, as a high profile pop single from a brilliant artist, this ticks all the boxes: she's mastered how to play the "fame game" by keeping her personal life in the papers, but also giving the fans "what I think they want" which is self-referential and fan-referential lyrics (aka, Applause --- same meaning behind both songs, really). 

 

[Glittertinks 12,466]

Hm, I kinda believe her. I mean, the song was certainly not in production for a few months, since Gaga and Taylor broke up. But on the other side it really has a bitter taste, when you keep the break up in your mind. I mean, it could be just unlucky timing. But I have a feeling we will never know this or in like 1000 years from now.

[arthurhmangum 4,408]

21 hours ago, FinnishGypsy said:

That is, essentially, what I wound up writing later in this thread--only in the format of a university-length analysis. Probably not the best way to make my first ever post .

A reverse warholain experience.