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I think Perfect Illusion is flopping


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MonsterOfSpain
2 minutes ago, Haroon said:

negative opinions are more likely to come from a constructive or caring place rather than from a hateful place like with some other artists. We're more likely to accept critical discussion about Gaga because we share a common like for Gaga (or certain parts of her career anyway) :flutter: 

 

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arthurhmangum
2 hours ago, swakby said:

Hope u're right! :)

I never predicted anything. I just think it's so silly that you care that much.

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GGD is really getting annoying. Be happy we finally got new music, she is doing really well on the charts, it's not 2009/2010 anymore, and more is to come.

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Whispering
27 minutes ago, Haroon said:

If someone thinks that's flopping then that's on them, it's been made clear that majority don't feel that way :laughga: We can't be forcing someone not to feel or think that way :duck: 

You can do as you wish, if it's deemed as flamebaiting then it'll be locked and you'll be warned :shrug: Especially if it's intended as some peculiar backhanded way to try to get back at moderation as some form of revenge or whatever, then I can guarantee it'll head down that route :rip: Be part of the solution, not the problem. 

We're Gaga fans so negative opinions are more likely to come from a constructive or caring place rather than from a hateful place like with some other artists. We're more likely to accept critical discussion about Gaga because we share a common like for Gaga (or certain parts of her career anyway) :flutter: 

Again, take the discussion to the Support section or PMs. At the moment you're just bumping a thread that you want gone and giving it extra attention by constantly posting in it :spin: 

If it is exactly like this thread, then it should stay open. Making exceptions and special cases doesn't work. In fact, it makes people dislike the person that is getting the special treatment. The same guidelines should stand for all artists, especially for Flamebait.  

No, everyone here is not Gaga fans. Many are here for other artists, have been pissed for five years that Gaga isn't doing what they want her to do, or are outright trolls. Much of the criticism here for Gaga comes from a hateful place. You can make these excuses all day long, but it is obvious when certain people have made a career  out of being negative on this forum. 

You replied to me. I simply thought the title should be changed to something that was at least somewhat truthful. The thread is staying alive because there has been multiple pages of people disagreeing with the OP and calling out the misguided title. Don't try to blame this mess on me. 

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Just now, Whispering said:

If it is exactly like this thread, then it should stay open. Making exceptions and special cases doesn't work. In fact, it makes people dislike the person that is getting the special treatment. 

No, everyone here is not Gaga fans. Many are here for other artists, have been pissed for five years that Gaga isn't doing what they want her to do, or are outright trolls. Much of the criticism here for Gaga comes from a hateful place. You can make these excuses all day long, but it is obvious when certain people have made a career  out of being negative on this forum. 

You replied to me. I simply thought the title should be changed to something that was at least somewhat truthful. The thread is staying alive because there has been multiple pages of people disagreeing with the OP and calling out the misguided title. Don't try to blame this mess on me. 

We'll see when the time comes :tongue: 

Not everyone no, but we can assume that majority are in some way (or at least I do anyway). If you disagree then that's fine, it's simply a difference of opinion then :laughga: 

I'm saying that you aren't helping to fix your issue because you're not going about it the right way. You know what to do but you refuse to for some reason or another. If what you want isn't done then you have nobody to blame except yourself for not taking the right route. Anyways, we needn't derail this topic so that's that really. If you want to continue feel free to PM or create a Support thread - as you've been told many times before :omg: 

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Whispering
9 minutes ago, Haroon said:

We'll see when the time comes  

Not everyone no, but we can assume that majority are in some way (or at least I do anyway). If you disagree then that's fine, it's simply a difference of opinion then :laughga: 

I'm saying that you aren't helping to fix your issue because you're not going about it the right way. You know what to do but you refuse to for some reason or another. If what you want isn't done then you have nobody to blame except yourself for not taking the right route. Anyways, we needn't derail this topic so that's that really. If you want to continue feel free to PM or create a Support thread - as you've been told many times before :omg: 

All I asked was for the thread title to be changed, not for the OP to be denied their opinion. We have people here who don't understand charts, so a thread title like this can cause unnecessary concern. A thread title change shouldn't be some major ordeal. By the way, there were many in this thread saying the same thing. And it finally got changed, which was the correct decision all along. 

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31 minutes ago, arthurhmangum said:

I never predicted anything. I just think it's so silly that you care that much.

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I am studying music management and, furthermore, look at the title of the thread.

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I agree with OP. None of my "casual" friends like the song. Even if they were listening to it not knowing it was Gaga, finding out it was her singing didn't sway their opinion.

The good part of this though is that none of you should feel like it's any of your fault. Gaga has said countless times that she's gonna make the kind of music she wants and if they're not chart-topping pop hits, that's her prerogative, not the fans'. Just go with it.

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TropicOfCANCER
1 hour ago, M83 said:

I don't care that the song is flopping I just wish the song was good 

mostly this.

after almost 48 hrs of living with the song, i can say i mostly don't care for it. I don't HATE IT, but i have no desire to listen to it. This whole idea of "you need to let it grow on you" is nonsense. It shouldn't take 500 listens to like a song, otherwise you're just self-brainwashing yourself to like it.

In regards to success, i would be less bothered if i truly loved the song and knew for sure that it was gaga's absolute best work, but i don't feel that it is. I am worried how the era will pan out now, and should this song not have much success, it doesn't bode well for the album's success and ultimately gaga's longterm success. the implications may not seem that major if one song flops, but actually, they really are.

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badgalriri

all my gp friends agree that it's not her best. they wouldn't say it's a bad song but it's not the quality song they expect from her.

 

 i like the song but i agree it could have been so much more 

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