Harry 26,836 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, HaveAnOysterBBy said: But what if opinion becomes fact especially in in this case. It does indeed sound like a rough demo from born this way Because saying something is "badly mixed" is not really an opinion. There IS a way for it to be done so that a song is actually clean and ready to be listened to on different platforms. To me it sounds clean... Everything can be picked out, her vocals aren't being squashed, the balances work. I've listened to it this morning on headphones, car speakers, laptop speakers and big venue-ready monitors at my work and it worked on them all. If it was badly mixed that wouldn't be the case. I think most of the complaints about it being "rough" is actually just to do with the aesthetic of the song. That's what you don't like. Accusing the production and mixing of being done improperly on a technical/skill level just because you don't like it is silly. Plus I haven't seen a single person talking about it sounding like a demo, unfinished, poorly mixed etc specifically describe what elements of the song makes them feel that way. They are lazy sweeping statements that no one has really made a convincing case for yet. If that's actually how you feel then fine, but I call BS on that criticism from most people on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveAnOysterBBy 796 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Because saying something is "badly mixed" is not really an opinion. There IS a way for it to be done so that a song is actually clean and ready to be listened to on different platforms. To me it sounds clean... Everything can be picked out, her vocals aren't being squashed, the balances work. I've listened to it this morning on headphones, car speakers, laptop speakers and big venue-ready monitors at my work and it worked on them all. If it was badly mixed that wouldn't be the case. I think most of the complaints about it being "rough" is actually just to do with the aesthetic of the song. That's what you don't like. Accusing the production and mixing of being done improperly on a technical/skill level just because you don't like it is silly. Plus I haven't seen a single person talking about it sounding like a demo, unfinished, poorly mixed etc specifically describe what elements of the song makes them feel that way. They are lazy sweeping statements that no one has really made a convincing case for yet. If that's actually how you feel then fine, but I call BS on that criticism from most people on here. It sounds very choppy and lazy production wise even though it's "professionally mixed" just like a demo. Clearly I'm not the only one that thinks so. It's a huge disappointment a lead single should not sound like that . And this is coming from someone who worshipped her every move. #prayforLG5secondsingle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL 14 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 It's an ok song. It's not amazing but it isn't bad either. I listened to it once, then again on BBCR1, and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 3 hours ago, HaveAnOysterBBy said: It sounds very choppy and lazy production wise even though it's "professionally mixed" just like a demo. Clearly I'm not the only one that thinks so. It's a huge disappointment a lead single should not sound like that . And this is coming from someone who worshipped her every move. #prayforLG5secondsingle "Choppy" how? "Lazy" how? There's a lot happening lol. It's not that I'm rejecting the opinion it's that I literally don't understand what you're saying because your points are so vague and empty. I know you aren't the only one and it's not an invalid thing to say, but I also don't care lmao. I just think if you're going to criticise aspects of a song you should at least be able to explain it better. People throw out buzzwords about production and mixes and demos but don't actually know what they're talking about in regards to those things... It just makes me laugh when people who spend all day on a forum think they know these things better than the actual professionals that worked on them but can do no better in their criticisms than saying it's "rough" and "lazy", like... The irony. Once again I don't care if you don't like it or if you don't like the sound of the production. But to say it's been done to a low standard technically speaking? It's just funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterBall13 1,217 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I personally love this song even my grandma loves the song everyone I've shown it to lives it it slays for days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
re di tutto 924 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The amount of hate for PI in this fan base is disgusting. Y'all generic trash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergil 2,296 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 The reason why I don't like it it's because it is mediocre. I like the instrumental but I don't like her voice at all, and the lyrics say nothing. It's just another song like Closer and Cold Water, well maybe worse... The reason why I used to love Gaga was because she was different to other artists now I see no difference. I don't like to be negative but your arguments are not valid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharamon 6,839 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Super Natural said: But this is a generic, unfinished, poorly mixed rock song. I dont like the song but ITS NOWHERE NEAR BEING GENERIC AND UNFINISHED...its amazingly mixed and produced its just idk...has to grow on me i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 its an amazing sound for gaga, but its just not an amazing song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,956 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Super Natural said: But this is a generic, unfinished, poorly mixed rock song. I really don't get it, where tf people hear rock in PI? They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 It's amazing and the haters will have to deal, that's that. I'm still expecting songs like this gem on LG5 though. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday 2,177 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 hours ago, Paco said: Girl, you're unfinished and poorly mixed I cant breathe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreyw 4,285 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 PI sucks /endthread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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