LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, brizoda said: you seems a little arrogant Why wouldn't I when even a Lebanese peasant like me essentially has more foreign policy experience than Jill Stein? She's a clueless moron and based on this move a fraud. With all my hostility towards Bernie I never called him that and at least respected what he stood for. Jill Stein disgusts me. She's basically trying to pull Nader 2.0. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, brizoda said: you seems a little arrogant If its no your oppinion, the others' opinions are always wrong A little. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,177 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Why wouldn't I when even a Lebanese peasant like me essentially has more foreign policy experience than Jill Stein? She's a clueless moron and based on this move a fraud. With all my hostility towards Bernie I never called him that and at least respected what he stood for. Jill Stein disgusts me. She's basically trying to pull Nader 2.0. be prepared because this year elections will be in between 4 political parties, Democrats, Republicans, Ecologists and Libertarian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, brizoda said: be prepared because this year elections will be in between 4 political parties, Democrats, Republicans, Ecologists and Libertarian It's the Green Party not the Ecological Party. And I'm fully aware of that. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,177 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: It's the Green Party not the Ecological Party. And I'm fully aware of that. its time to end bipartidism in America, America needs more than 2 voices, it needs more plurality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, brizoda said: its time to end bipartidism in America, America needs more than 2 voices, it needs more plural voices You think I don't agree with that? The more voices there are the better. I just find it absurd that people think that the differences between the Democrats and the Greens is based on anything other than actual experience in the political sphere. It's easy to have extreme left positions when you are never called on to make them happen. The Greens are only 9% different than the Democrats and not always in a "good" way. They are for example anti vaccination and pro homeopathy. The simple fact of the matter is that this election is quite possibly one of the best chances the USA has ever had to truly bring progressive values to fruition. The Democrats are going to spearhead it. you either support that or you don't Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 50 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: Forget all of that. Don't you love how HILARIOUSLY ironic this is in that she has repeated the lies of Hillary rigging the election, while ultimately doing the very same thing by ignoring the results of the Green Party primaries and choosing to pass the baton to Bernie? Man how can anyone support this woman. She has neither integrity nor competence. She has spent 15 years losing elections. She'll continue to fail because she's a fraud. Didn't think of this actually I honestly don't think the Green Party would really care though, Jill's positions aren't "that" different from Bernies last I checked, (but then again neither are Hillary's ) so unless they want her for her personality, they may not care... I do personally think shes actually a much more eloquent speaker and public figure than Bernie is, even if she willingfully lies about Hillary to garner support. Carly Fiorina teas; she was easily the best actual debater from the Republican side but even she continued to say things like "Planned Parenthood sells baby parts!" after the video was debunked and all of that BS. continued. I understand Jill though; both women had an agenda and Jill's is to incrementally increase the popularity and viability of the Green Party at any means necessary. It saddens me that she has to stoop so low as to find talking points that the Republican Party were using given how untrue or misleading they were, but desperation brings out the worst in people. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Didn't think of this actually I honestly don't think the Green Party would really care though, Jill's positions aren't "that" different from Bernies last I checked, (but then again neither are Hillary's ) so unless they want her for her personality, they may not care... I do personally think shes actually a much more eloquent speaker and public figure than Bernie is, even if she willingfully lies about Hillary to garner support. Carly Fiorina teas; she was easily the best actual debater from the Republican side but even she continued to say things like "Planned Parenthood sells baby parts!" after the video was debunked and all of that BS. continued. I understand Jill though; both women had an agenda and Jill's is to incrementally increase the popularity and viability of the Green Party at any means necessary. It saddens me that she has to stoop so low as to find talking points that the Republican Party were using given how untrue or misleading they were, but desperation brings out the worst in people. That's not the point. This is a clear violation of the democratic process. You don't just randomly choose people based on where they stand. This call goes to show how much integrity she lacks. This isn't an act of desperation because it's consistent with how she has acted this entire run. This is the apex of the display of fraud. Frankly I don't see how Jill Stein is qualified for the presidency at all. Sure she's smart but that doesn't make a leader. Mayors of small towns have more experience leading than she does. You vote for people not for ideas. Unfortunately many fail to see that. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said: That's not the point. This is a clear violation of the democratic process. You don't just randomly choose people based on where they stand. Frankly I don't see how Jill Stein is qualified for the presidency any more qualified than a random person on the street.at all. Sure she's smart but that doesn't make a leader. Mayors of small towns have more experience leading than she does. You vote for people not for ideas. Unfortunately many fail to see that. I get all that. Just adding to the discussion 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 You say Bernie running Third Party would help Trump but Libertarian Gary Johnson (10%) is taking votes away from Trump (more than what Jill takes from Hillary atm) so that keeps it in check & he would start off at 30% in a 4 way race. Ultimately if Hillary wants to win maybe she can get her **** together? It won't be anyone's fault but her's if she loses & I don't feel the need to vote for her simply because I am registered Democrat as I am a free thinker. The avoiding Trump is the only thing her campaign has going, that is literally the only amenity, no time for her self-entitlement. Maybe we wouldn't be worried about Hillary losing if she could run a good honest campaign for once in her incompetent life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, LebaneseDude said: Based on what exactly? Because Jill don't like Israel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, ALEXANDRE said: You say Bernie running Third Party would help Trump but Libertarian Gary Johnson (10%) is taking votes away from Trump (more than what Jill takes from Hillary atm) so that keeps it in check & he would start off at 30% in a 4 way race. Ultimately if Hillary wants to win maybe she can get her **** together? It won't be anyone's fault but her's if she loses & I don't feel the need to vote for her simply because I am registered Democrat as I am a free thinker. The avoiding Trump is the only thing her campaign has going, that is literally the only amenity, no time for her self-entitlement. Maybe we wouldn't be worried about Hillary losing if she could run a good honest campaign for once in her incompetent life? Stop trying to frame her wanting votes as self-entitlement. That's what people in elections do. She already has her **** together. You're just too mad at her for some reason to see it. Like honestly what has her CAMPAIGN done incorrectly so far? Tell me? She's speaking on the issues and is showing what her real opponent in the general is about. That's what people always do in contests like these. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 43 minutes ago, Simon said: Because Jill don't like Israel Is she another Jewish candidate you have problem with? Not supporting/funding apartheid and bombing of children should be a virtue. What exactly is wrong here? https://thepeaceresource.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/dr-jill-stein-on-israel-palestine-and-the-middle-east/ FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted July 8, 2016 Author Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, YourSweet666 said: Is she another Jewish candidate you have problem with? Not supporting/funding apartheid and bombing of children should be a virtue. What exactly is wrong here? https://thepeaceresource.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/dr-jill-stein-on-israel-palestine-and-the-middle-east/ Why do you always oversimplify the Palestinian-Israeli conflict? Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said: Why do you always oversimplify the Palestinian-Israeli conflict? Why do you always quote me? Why do you always think I care what you have to say? I was not talking to you. Simon chose to say something in my name, because he thinks he knows me, so let him reply. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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