Singer Coeur de Pirate comes out as queer

[Poissonche 12,365]

Don't let a thread about a woman's courage to reveal her true self to the world turn into this, please

[weed 74,156]

22 minutes ago, SKANK said:

What makes you a **** is rolling your eyes at a kid who didn't know what a word means, and then misrepresenting what he said in order to save face.

He did not say self-expression of sexuality is getting out of hand, he literally said "these acronyms are getting out of control", which is a sentiment virtually every LGBTQQIA person who doesn't have a tumblr account agrees with.

Acronyms aren't supposed to look like a bowl of ****ing Alphabet Soup. Acronyms are supposed to make things easier, not be half the alphabet.

Look at the way user JDi responded to him, and look at the way you responded to him, and you will understand why you're a ****.

Literally everything you're saying is coming out of your ass. Me rolling my eyes: you made it up. "Sav[ing] face" is made up, "virtually every ... person who doesn't have a tumblr account agrees with" is made up, "you're a ****" also formed by you. Get a concrete argument pls, calling me names doesn't do anything but make you look a ****

 

and I'm no longer replying, yay to the French singer for coming out as queer (: she's brave.

[SKANK 14,288]

13 minutes ago, neptugne said:

Literally everything you're saying is coming out of your ass. Me rolling my eyes: you made it up. "Sav[ing] face" is made up, "virtually every ... person who doesn't have a tumblr account agrees with" is made up, "you're a ****" also formed by you. Get a concrete argument pls, calling me names doesn't do anything but make you look a ****

 

 

When a kid is confused about what the word queer means, this is how you respond if you aren't a ****:

 

4 hours ago, Redstreak said:

Queer is just an umbrella term for anything non-cishet

 

Anyway good for her. I loved her last album.

 

4 hours ago, Oriane23 said:

To me queer is just part of the LGBT, you're just not straight.

I'm French and I know her but I don't know what it is for other countries.

 

4 hours ago, JDi said:

queer is the original term.

there weren't many exclusively homosexual people in the past, at least not openly, so everyone who had homosexual tendencies was considered queer as in up to anything. gay also used to mean both homosexual and bisexual.

 

When a kid doesn't know what the word queer means this is how you respond if you are a ****:

 

3 hours ago, neptugne said:

Queer has been used for hundreds of years 

 

 

 

Now you know.

[Gracious Gaga 17,163]

12 hours ago, SKANK said:

 

Acting like you popped out of the womb with with a limp wrist reading a dog eared copy of Our Lady of The Flowers.

One day, when you realize you aren't as smart as you think you are, you will look back and cringe with embarrassment over the times you shamed other people for not knowing things you know.

 

 

Considering the conversation in this thread is about the word queer as it relates to sexuality, saying that the word queer has existed for hundreds of years is meaningless. You didn't have to be a **** to that kid.

 

 

That is exactly who I was asking about. Thank you.

One day you'll look back and cringe at how obnoxious you are.

[Kayla 7,595]

18 hours ago, SKANK said:

 

I think your kidding, but if you aren't, you should know that the etymology of the word Queer meaning homosexual is less then a hundred years old. The word "queer" is hundreds of years old, but the earliest use of "queer" meaning "homosexual" is in the 1920's. It was a pejorative we recently reclaimed.

What did the word mean before the 1920s?

 

17 hours ago, Grant Gaga said:

Lmao when queer people don't know what queer means

I think a lot of people use it differently. I just texted a friend of mine the things I learned in this thread because he's bisexual but thought that when people said "queer" on dating apps that it meant they were super homosexual in a "I am 0% interested in the opposite sex" sort of way.

And growing up jerk kids used to always use "queer" to describe gay men, or boys doing things that seemed "gay," so I grew up seeing it used to mean something different too. (not that I used it that way, just pointing out another way it's interpreted) 

[Kayla 7,595]

@SKANK while I agree with everything you're saying, I do think you are being a bit too harsh about it. This conversation seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill when this thread could serve to be a positive place with informative content. I learned something new while reading this thread, and other people did too. Perhaps we can leave it at that and calmly just agree that the way some people worded things were harsh and could have been done more constructively. 

[SKANK 14,288]

1 hour ago, Kayla said:

What did the word mean before the 1920s?

 

I think a lot of people use it differently. I just texted a friend of mine the things I learned in this thread because he's bisexual but thought that when people said "queer" on dating apps that it meant they were super homosexual in a "I am 0% interested in the opposite sex" sort of way.

And growing up jerk kids used to always use "queer" to describe gay men, or boys doing things that seemed "gay," so I grew up seeing it used to mean something different too. (not that I used it that way, just pointing out another way it's interpreted) 

 

The original and still most commonly used meaning of the word queer is 'strange.'

According to http://www.etymonline.com

Queer as an adjective is first recorded in the 1500's, meaning "strange, peculiar, eccentric," from Scottish, perhaps from Low German (Brunswick dialect) queer "oblique, off-center," related to German quer "oblique, perverse, odd," from Old High German twerh "oblique," from PIE root *terkw- "to turn, twist, wind"

Sense of "homosexual" first recorded 1922; the noun in this sense is 1935, from the adjective. Related: Queerly. Queer studies as an academic discipline attested from 1994.

Queer has also meant "to spoil, ruin," 1812, from queer (adj.). Related: Queered; queering. Earlier it meant "to puzzle, ridicule, cheat" (1790). To queer the pitch (1846) is in reference to the patter of an itinerant tradesman or showman

 

1 hour ago, Kayla said:

@SKANK while I agree with everything you're saying, I do think you are being a bit too harsh about it. This conversation seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill when this thread could serve to be a positive place with informative content. I learned something new while reading this thread, and other people did too. Perhaps we can leave it at that and calmly just agree that the way some people worded things were harsh and could have been done more constructively. 

 

You're right, I'll reign it in. It just gets on my tits when a young person is made to feel inferior because they don't know something.