Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 minute ago, ryanripley said: if facts could easily change, science would be all over the place lol i'm just imagining a scientist being like "welp, today the earth is flat my dudes" meaning the law can change duh also Pluto use to be a planet then not a planet and now it's a planet again if we go so much to the left with the topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, BrianxRyan said: meaning the law can change duh i'd say law is based way more on the majority's opinion than fact itself most of the time, which is a shame https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, ryanripley said: i'd say law is based way more on the majority's opinion than fact itself most of the time, which is a shame the only post I have liked in this thread thus far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said: I don't remember the exact details, because I haven't watched the movie in ages, but if I recall correctly, she constantly incites him to throw the first punch, in order to make use of her right to defend herself. (I don't remember why she was able to break into his house without consequences, though). If she had gone to his house and straight up attacked him, to retaliate for having been tortured for years, she'd be going to jail, because he didn't pose an immediate threat at that moment. she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Andrew Warhola said: I don't remember the exact details, because I haven't watched the movie in ages, but if I recall correctly, she constantly incites him to throw the first punch, in order to make use of her right to defend herself. (I don't remember why she was able to break into his house without consequences, though). If she had gone to his house and straight up attacked him, to retaliate for having been tortured for years, she'd be going to jail, because he didn't pose an immediate threat at that moment. I used it as a joke. lol I know she killed that man but he was going to kill her anyway I used as an example. I think the person should have been more smart about the situation like she. Either way, I think it serves as a prime example of why self defense should be changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, BrianxRyan said: I used it as a joke. lol I know she killed that man but he was going to kill her anyway I used as an example. I think the person should have been more smart about the situation like she. Either way, I think it serves as a prime example of why self defense should be changed. So you agree with "the law of retaliation" ("Eye for an eye")? she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatica 13,698 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Now you know how all you ugly assses would end if you don't tell me you're HIV+ before we have sexual intercourse. Jokes aside, why would you fukc someone and then tell them you are HIV+? What kind of a surprise is that? Second, they should've both protected themselves, so the murderer is at blame too. But then why commit the murder? I didn't ask for a free ride, I only asked you to show me a real good time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Andrew Warhola said: So you agree with "the law of retaliation" ("Eye for an eye")? In certain situations such as ones just mentioned... yes. I personally don't think I would do it. Then again I never been in the situation. (Dear Government if you are reading this right now I am completely playing shall this ever be brought up in the court of law) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, BrianxRyan said: (Dear Government if you are reading this right now I am completely playing shall this ever be brought up in the court of law) she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Andrew Warhola said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Andrew Warhola said: So you agree with "the law of retaliation" ("Eye for an eye")? I don't think they know what they agree with But thanks for your posts, you've been able to articulate it in a way I couldn't. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just now, Dominic Marc said: I don't think they know what they agree with But thanks for your posts, you've been able to articulate it in a way I couldn't. she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 22 hours ago, BrianxRyan said: I consider it self defense. I do not think he should have got time. Then again, I do not believe in jail nor prisons. I only believe in rehabilitation and other indeterminate sentencing measures. A person generally just sitting in a cage will not do it anything. Just a question, how do you define self-defense? Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Spyro said: Just a question, how do you define self-defense? If someone try to kill you... kill them. Simple. I don't think the guy should have burned the house or burned the guy though. That was extra. I think he would have got far less time or free if he wouldn't have done that. Also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, BrianxRyan said: If someone try to kill you... kill them. Simple. I don't think the guy should have burned the house or burned the guy though. That was extra. I think he would have got far less time or free if he wouldn't have done that. Also. I'm not really sure you're getting what "self-defense" is, and if you tried to go out (here in the U.S. at least) and kill someone if no one is about to attack you or have any good grounds that your life is at risk, then you're gong to jail, I'm sorry. It just doesn't work like the way you want it to work. If that's how you feel, then try what this guy did and see if a grand jury should find you legally self-defending (hint: they won't). "Self-defense" isn't just a free card to kill anybody, when somebody *already* committed the attack, but if they would say, try to rape you, then yes, you have a legitimate reason to kill in self-defense. You're not defending yourself against anything in this guys case. The guy already transmitted the virus and nothing can make that un-done, whether he's killed or not. If he proceeds to threaten again, then you should try to defend --->before<--- it happens. Read: BEFORE!!! NOT AFTER! Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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