Anderson Cooper DESTROYS Pam Bondi: “Sick Irony” Of Gay Marriage Opposition

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Mess at people defending her. Did you even watched the video? She was called an hypocrite because she demonized people who attack the LGBT community but she was one of those people who attacked the LGBT community in a smaller scale but she attacked the community.

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18 minutes ago, aaronyoji said:

the thing is, this woman and conservatives alike aren't showing actual compassion, theyre making it about "
humanity" and rationalizing it as a general attack on random people in general, complete erasure of the fact that it was targeted at gay people. that way, they dont seem like assholes for not commenting about it, but at the same time being able to feel the right to their bigotry. 

 

Wrong.

"Anyone who goes after our LGBT community will be gone after with the full extent of the law." - Pam Bondi.

"Today is about LGBT victims." - Pam Bondi

 

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36 minutes ago, aaronyoji said:

youre such an apologist its disgusting. 

You can do your jobs and not be a homophobic monster, but I wouldn't suppose you would know anything about the real world and real responsibilities. 

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I can't at all these right wing politicians acting like they didn't contribute to gay stigma with their weasely words.

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5 hours ago, Gagamel said:

MTE.... idk if im watching the same video as other people here cuz she seemed incredibly reasonable. She had a reasonable argument for each of his statements but he kept repeating them like a 16 year old girl with raging hormones. If anyone scalped anyone it was her scalping him with logic and sensibility. I totally agree with her that if the topic was about the victims of the recent tragedy, they should talk about them and their families and how to help them, not about her past of opposing gay marriage, even though she obviously does not have any ill feelings towards gay people.

Lmao, do you know her history? Research the disgusting things she has said about gays and lesbians. This is hypocrisy at its finest, these politicians just want to look like the big hero. I hope she has  changed her opinion. 

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6 hours ago, SKANK said:

Jesus Christ, how can you guys have it so ass backwards?

This woman is setting aside her political and religious beliefs to help the victims of a massacre. That is what you do in the wake of a tragedy. You set aside ideology to help your fellow man. She is doing the right thing.  The appropriate response to her bridge building isn't to burn the bridge.

Rather then celebrate the unanimous support the gay community is receiving, you are all drawing political lines in the sand, criticizing the support of those whom you don't deem liberal enough. People in this thread saying conservative leaders are hypocrites for having a compassionate response to the massacre in Orlando are so gross. We should  cherish this rare moment when Conservative Americans are largely embracing Queer Americans. This is a time for coming together.

It's also worth noting that not supporting marriage equality isn't the same thing as being a bigot. A fact you all knew when you voted for Obama, and a fact you will all remember when you cast your ballot for Hillary in November.

You're speaking to people who hadn't had their first orgasm when Obama was elected.

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I feel bad for her, this was unnecessary, she did nothing he was accusing her of.

 

YOU'RE WHOLE FRIXKING COUNTRY IS EITHER VOTING FOR:

HILLARY WHO WAS AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE FOR SO LONG

TRUMP WHO STILL HATES GAYS

STOP GOING OFF WHEN PEOPLE BECOME PRO-LGBT. ISN'T IT WHAT YOU WANT.

This guy is a prick.

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42 minutes ago, Squidward T said:

Lmao, do you know her history? Research the disgusting things she has said about gays and lesbians. This is hypocrisy at its finest, these politicians just want to look like the big hero. I hope she has  changed her opinion. 

 

Do you remember when Pam Bondi supported the Defense of Marriage Act, a disgusting piece of legislation that sent the message to Queer Americans that they were second class citizens? Do you remember when she ran for president and told gay Americans their marriage would threaten the very bedrock of our nation?

“...the fundamental bedrock principle that [marriage] exists between a man and a woman, going back into the midst of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”

Oops. That was Hillary Clinton.

 

This woman, Pam Bondi, is putting aside her political and social beliefs in the wake of a tragedy. Her motivation is irrelevant as long as she is doing the right thing for the victims.

Her "wanting to look like a big hero" is petty, but so is rejecting the support of an individual in the time of a crisis because they don't share your political values. 

Did you watch the interview? She is working to make sure unmarried victims of the shooting have visitation rights at the hospital, she is making sure they are being treated fairly at funeral homes, she is publicly saying that violence against homosexuals is unacceptable - all that in spite of her religious and political beliefs. She is being selfless.

We should thank her for what she is doing now, and hope that this experience will change her views. We shouldn't be berating her on national television.

 

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And this is why we can't have nice things -_-

 

We cant cling on to the mistakes of the past if we want a better future, the past is the past, we should be thankful we are the first generation of LGBT people where freedom is starting to appear and that these discussions happen

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21 minutes ago, SKANK said:

This woman, Pam Bondi, is putting aside her political and social beliefs in the wake of a tragedy. Her motivation is irrelevant as long as she is doing the right thing for the victims.

Her "wanting to look like a big hero" is petty, but so is rejecting the support of an individual in the time of a crisis because they don't share your political values. 

Did you watch the interview? She is working to make sure unmarried victims of the shooting have visitation rights at the hospital, she is making sure they are being treated fairly at funeral homes, she is publicly saying that violence against homosexuals is unacceptable - all that in spite of her religious and political beliefs. She is being selfless.

We should thank her for what she is doing now, and hope that this experience will change her views. We shouldn't be berating her on national television.

 

I do agree with you to the degree that what Pam Bondi is doing now is absolutely incredible and she should be applauded for helping the LGBT victims of the shooting and their families.

I disagree that she shouldn't be attacked on her past views though. It isn't even about her, it's about criticising the very policies and ideologies that would have prevented these visitation rights, it would have made life for these victims and their partners so much more difficult.

We have Donald Trump running for president saying the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage was a mistake and that he would strongly consider appointing new justices who would overturn the ruling. There is still many opponents to gay marriage and although, at this point, the LGBT movement won on gay marriage it was still less than a year ago that gay people were not allowed to marry across the country. 

So I get it, she is great for putting her politics aside and helping these people, but I think it's still important to talk about the impact her politics would have had if her and those like her and succeeded in preventing the legalisation of gay marriage. It's important for people watching to know that gay marriage allowed these sort of civil and legal protections and for them to understand how important these protections are.

Gay marriage is still under threat and there are still many opponents to gay marriage who would love to see that decision over turned. Arguably the anti-lgbt rhetoric that claimed gay people were inducing "significant public harm" for fighting for marriage equality also contributed to the culture that demonised LGBT people and it is the demonisation of LGBT people that no doubt had some impact on the planned attack that targeted an LGBT club.

So congratulations to Pam Bondi for helping now, but hopefully she is aware that she wasn't helping the LGBT community when she maintained a culture of homophobia and tried to prevent LGBT people from receiving the same protections she is now championing.

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1 minute ago, Bebe said:

I do agree with you to the degree that what Pam Bondi is doing now is absolutely incredible and she should be applauded for helping the LGBT victims of the shooting and their families.

I disagree that she shouldn't be attacked on her past views though. It isn't even about her, it's about criticising the very policies and ideologies that would have prevented these visitation rights, it would have made life for these victims and their partners so much more difficult.

We have Donald Trump running for president saying the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage was a mistake and that he would strongly consider appointing new justices who would overturn the ruling. There is still many opponents to gay marriage and although, at this point, the LGBT movement won on gay marriage it was still less than a year ago that gay people were not allowed to marry across the country. 

So I get it, she is great for putting her politics aside and helping these people, but I think it's still important to talk about the impact her politics would have had if her and those like her and succeeded in preventing the legalisation of gay marriage. It's important for people watching to know that gay marriage allowed these sort of civil and legal protections and for them to understand how important these protections are.

Gay marriage is still under threat and there are still many opponents to gay marriage who would love to see that decision over turned. Arguably the anti-lgbt rhetoric that claimed gay people were inducing "significant public harm" for fighting for marriage equality also contributed to the culture that demonised LGBT people and it is the demonisation of LGBT people that no doubt had some impact on the planned attack that targeted an LGBT club.

So congratulations to Pam Bondi for helping now, but hopefully she is aware that she wasn't helping the LGBT community when she maintained a culture of homophobia and tried to prevent LGBT people from receiving the same protections she is now championing.

 

Gay marriage is not under threat. The Supreme Court ruled that gay people have a constitutional right to marry. Legally it is more protected now then it has ever been. Gay marriage is also viewed more favorably now then it has ever been. Statically speaking the majority of Americans support marriage equality, something like fifty five percent of Americans. Three out of four millennials support marriage equality, indicating that the future of marriage equality is very safe. Gay marriage is not still under threat.

This woman's history of opposing marriage equality deserves criticism, but not now, not when she is setting aside her beliefs in order to serve the victims of a hate crime. That is petty.

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7 minutes ago, SKANK said:

 

Gay marriage is not under threat. The Supreme Court ruled that gay people have a constitutional right to marry. Legally it is more protected now then it has ever been. Gay marriage is also viewed more favorably now then it has ever been. Statically speaking the majority of Americans support marriage equality, something like fifty five percent of Americans. Three out of four millennials support marriage equality, indicating that the future of marriage equality is very safe. Gay marriage is not still under threat.

This woman's history of opposing marriage equality deserves criticism, but not now, not when she is setting aside her beliefs in order to serve the victims of a hate crime. That is petty.

It's not under drastic threat, I don't think it's going to be destroyed any time soon, but there is a presidential candidate saying he would strongly like to nominate a supreme court justice to help overturn that constitutional right. That's a threat to gay marriage. There is still a major political party in the U.S that seems to endorse over-turning the supreme court decision. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio both campaigned during the Republican primary saying that they would elect a supreme court judge that would overrule the decision.


55% of Americans is a nice majority, but it's hardly a super strong majority. When there is a presidential candidate who wants to nominate a supreme court judge to overturn the decision then gay marriage is under threat, when there is a major political party whose top 3 most popular candidates wanted to overturn the supreme court decision then gay marriage is under threat.

The future of gay marriage seems pretty rosey, but I still think it's important to be vigilant. It's important to send the message, especially in the wake of such a tragic attack on LGBT lives, that attacks against gay marriage and the promotion of homophobia have real world consequences. It's not petty to call her out on that.

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3 minutes ago, Bebe said:

It's not under drastic threat, I don't think it's going to be destroyed any time soon, but there is a presidential candidate saying he would strongly like to nominate a supreme court justice to help overturn that constitutional right. That's a threat to gay marriage. There is still a major political party in the U.S that seems to endorse over-turning the supreme court decision. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio both campaigned during the Republican primary saying that they would elect a supreme court judge that would overrule the decision.


55% of Americans is a nice majority, but it's hardly a super strong majority. When there is a presidential candidate who wants to nominate a supreme court judge to overturn the decision then gay marriage is under threat, when there is a major political party whose top 3 most popular candidates wanted to overturn the supreme court decision then gay marriage is under threat.

The future of gay marriage seems pretty rosey, but I still think it's important to be vigilant. It's important to send the message, especially in the wake of such a tragic attack on LGBT lives, that attacks against gay marriage and the promotion of homophobia have real world consequences. It's not petty to call her out on that.

 

Oddly enough Donald Trump is the most pro-gay candidate Republicans have ever made their presumptive nominee, which I think speaks volumes about the direction of the party. Trump officially does not support marriage equality, but in the past he has said his opinion on gay marriage is "evolving." When asked about the Supreme Court's decision he has said, "You have to go with it. The decision's been made, and that is the law of the land." Earlier this week Trump called himself a "friend" of the LGBT community - that is certainty a first for a Republican presidential candidate. He dismissed conservatives who are seeking to restrict Trans bathroom rights. No one has any idea where they stand with Trump, but it's safe to assume considering the tone of his campaign that dismantling gay marriage would not be his priority if he were elected, he isn't running a campaign based on Christian Family Values.

Something like 69% of Republicans under the age of thirty support marriage equality. 77% of Democrats under the age of thirty support marriage equality. Baring someone fascist revolution the future of marriage equality couldn't be more safe. To say gay marriage is under threat, is factually incorrect. The majority of American's support it. The overwhelming majority of millennials support it.

"It's important to send the message, especially in the wake of such a tragic attack on LGBT lives, that attacks against gay marriage and the promotion of homophobia have real world consequences."

It's bizarre that you would suggest the massacre in Orland is a consequence of the Attorney General of Florida arguing against marriage equality in a federal courtroom.

 

Bottom line, in the midst of a tragedy this woman is admirably setting aside her political beliefs, and you are not.

 

[Bebe 17,289]

18 minutes ago, SKANK said:

 

Oddly enough Donald Trump is the most pro-gay candidate Republicans have ever made their presumptive nominee, which I think speaks volumes about the direction of the party. Trump officially does not support marriage equality, but in the past he has said his opinion on gay marriage is "evolving." When asked about the Supreme Court's decision he has said, "You have to go with it. The decision's been made, and that is the law of the land." Earlier this week Trump called himself a "friend" of the LGBT community - that is certainty a first for a Republican presidential candidate. He dismissed conservatives who are seeking to restrict Trans bathroom rights. No one has any idea where they stand with Trump, but it's safe to assume considering the tone of his campaign that dismantling gay marriage would not be his priority if he were elected, he isn't running a campaign based on Christian Family Values.

Something like 69% of Republicans under the age of thirty support marriage equality. 77% of Democrats under the age of thirty support marriage equality. Baring someone fascist revolution the future of marriage equality couldn't be more safe. To say gay marriage is under threat, is factually incorrect. The majority of American's support it. The overwhelming majority of millennials support it.

"It's important to send the message, especially in the wake of such a tragic attack on LGBT lives, that attacks against gay marriage and the promotion of homophobia have real world consequences."

It's bizarre that you would suggest the massacre in Orland is a consequence of the Attorney General of Florida arguing against marriage equality in a federal courtroom.

 

Bottom line, in the midst of a tragedy this woman is admirably setting aside her political beliefs, and you are not.

 

Trumps position on gay rights has been shaky at best. The comments you posted are from 2015 but in 2016 he told FOX News that he’d “strongly consider” overturning same-sex marriage, and he urged evangelical leaders to “trust” him to protect “traditional marriage.”

The fact is  that a presidential nominee like Trump, who is wildly popular is promoting the idea of nominating a supreme court justice to help overturn equal marriage. 

"It's bizarre that you would suggest the massacre in Orland is a consequence of the Attorney General of Florida arguing against marriage equality in a federal courtroom."

I haven't suggested that. It's bizarre that you would twist my comments to make it seem as if I am blaming her for the massacre when I have said since my first reply to you that it isn't even about her, it's about the larger picture. I doubt the shooter even knew who she was let alone heard her words and decided to shoot up an LGBT club.

My point was that Pam, and those who think and acted like her, helped to protect and normalise LGBT discrimination. People like her tried to prevent gay marriage, which would have made much of the work she is doing now almost impossible, and people like her are still barriers to ending discrimination. By pointing out that her opposition to gay marriage would have ironically prevented the work she is doing now, it points out to those that still hold such discriminatory views the consequences of dismantling gay marriage.

Like I said, from the beginning, congrats to Pam for putting aside her political beliefs to help the LGBT community now. It's really very admirable. That doesn't however erase what she has done in the past and it's certainly not a bad thing to call out the impact of discriminatory politics and language after an LGBT club has been shot up.

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6 hours ago, aaronyoji said:

ummm..... 

that doesnt make sense lmfao. 

if i want blacks to not have voting rights, what are you gonna think i feel towards them as a people???

Let me state this: you're never gonna end homophobia with attacking them. When a homophobe who feels sorry for gays watches this, and sees how some gay doesn't appreciate her support because of her stance on gay marriage, do you think that will have a positive or negative effect on a homophobe? Anderson could've thanked her for the support and kept it at that. People don't like to be stepped on their toes and this is not gonna help homophobia. Y'all got a few kiis but this does more bad than good, considering we want to eliminate homophobia. Not everyone is a rational thinker, but I believe they can become that (look at how Hillary changed over the years) and this pettiness is gonna set back a homophobe's personal process.