TIME magazine comes for Taylor Swift and Nicki Minaj

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16 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, I'm sorry, but as the person who it was said about I can guarantee that that's not just semantics You also said, correct me if I'm wrong (you can't) that concluding I hated Gaga was the only logical conclusion you could make reading my posts. So that's a double confirmation that there's no dispute possible about me being a Gaga hater, and you're just covering your ass now, that's very offensive for someone who actively went out of his way to attack someone and act like everyone agreed he was someone who shouldn't be here.

Wow. Putting even more words in my mouth. I did no such thing. All I said was that you hate Gaga and that others agree with me. That's all. Are you going to sue me for slander??? You're faceless so your reputation here doesn't mean sh1t.

Anyway the public is more aware than ever that there are people who are paid to hate Gaga. Like its so obviously irrational.

But it's too late. The more GGD trashes Gaga the more sympathy she gets from the real world and the more the general public wishes they were a Monster.

Ban me. I honestly don't give a f*ck. This site is a waste of space. 

PS love you Mother Monster!!! 

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Gaga deserves better from me than to associate with the evil here on GGD.

I mean Mother doesn't come here anymore so why the hell should I?

Good. Bye. Bitches.

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2 hours ago, JDi said:

I swear you make both some of the strongest and weakest points on this forum

why always at Gaga's expense? do you seriously think you're being realistic when you make (the most invalid) comparisons between her and these beyond fake cash cows? where were you until 2008 when not even ****ing Madonna was vocal (enough) about gay rights?

seriously, why are you doing this?

you know what you said about Baku was stupid. imagine (pun intended) how stupid she would look if she did that... like, hi Europe, you see, we're in Baku right now and this sports spirit celebration thing is cool and all but let me remind you they treat gays like **** here (they were more than generous and nice in my case tho xo) so yeah, the majority of the population here consists of backward homophobic bigots but let's pretend it's not culture and religion but rather just law and I can make real big change, okay? now let me sing born this way real quick. 

the "deluded song" was more than enough to send a message of peace and equality. if it was Minaj or Swift or anyone really, you wont get better than a medley of their latest and We Are the Champions, you know.

...like that one time you said she was ignorant about what was going on on the Gaza strip when she was in Tel Aviv with the Artrave... what did you expect her to say? it's like going to South Korea and talking about the border. it's ****ing war and even when the conflict isn't armed there's still tension. more than anything, it's a civil conflict the only solution to which is to forgive and forget all of their nations' history. the most she could do is offer an escape from their homeland's (century-long) reality by putting on a good pop show. there's an abundance of positive messages in her act. more than in any other pop star's besides MJ and that "deluded" guy.

and of course Swift and Minaj had to. it's not demanding philanthropy. it's demanding the support of the people whose bank accounts your community is the main supporter of.

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3 minutes ago, Runway said:

spill me good.  

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18 hours ago, Higher said:

I didn't know they were obligated to do so.

Have you read the article? They say exactly: "celebrities don't owe us anything. But we also don't owe them anything either". The point is: they don't have to say anything, but it's useful to see which artists are only interested in the LGBT community when we're buying albums and tickets. Other than that, they couldn't care less if we live or die, if we have rights or not. 

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11 hours ago, Rebel Heart said:

I can understand the expectation for stars like Gaga and Madonna to show support for this tragedy just because of how much vocal support they've given in the past and if they didn't it might look fake to some people and might look like they exploited the gay community for their own gain. But Taylor and Nicki don't owe anyone their thoughts on this tragedy. The Taylor comment was so ridiculous. Like do you expect Gaga to tweet #BlackLivesMatter every time an unarmed black person is shot by police just because of the lyrics "No matter black, white or beige, chola or orient made I'm on the right track, baby I was born to be brave" in Born This Way? And the Nicki comment was also ridiculous. That affected her directly. She can talk about the issues that effect her directly without having to speak about other issues. Do you expect some one who's so vocal about workers rights when they're a worker themselves to also be so vocal about gay rights when they're not gay? Pathetic attemp to drag them tbh

I agree with you. They don't have to say anything about gays, but this wasn't just a gay hate crime it was also a terrorist attack against the United States. It affects everyone not just gays. The least they could do is condemn the actions of the terrorist against fellow Americans. Is the gay community worth less than other americans?  Where does a terrorist need to attack for them to say something? 

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The thread is back open. Please remember to stay on topic, and don't forget that the article says (paraphrased) 'stars don't owe us anything, nor do we owe them; fans will find it appealing who is engaged with the world'.

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On 6/14/2016 at 0:33 PM, Sycamore said:

Nicki  was never honest about LGBT rights. She is exploiting the LGBT community. I usually don't say things like this, but how and when did she ever helped the Community?

never. and neither has swift, and even beyonce, (maybe now, now that its popular to and she can make money off of the praise she'd get for it) and especially nick jonas. 

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I'd rather them never tweet a fluffy, useless, statement and instead put their time towards actually doing something to combat a problem. We don't know what Nicki or Taylor or anyone does behind the scenes. Not everyone wants their advocacy made into a spectacle. Personally, the older I get, the more tacky I find it when people brag all over social medias about how much they've done to advance a cause; as if one person's help surpasses another (contradicting statement I know because in some cases it does). I made a remark on Sunday about Disney not saying anything about this attack that happened right in their backyard, and guess what, the next day they donate $1 million  

Its not fair to criticize people based on their lack of social media support. If that's the case then a lot of my pro-gay friends and family are "haterz" in you all's eyes. No one's intentions should be free from questioning. Not yours, not mine, not even Lady Gaga or, yes, even Madonna. Like it or not, someone always has something to gain. You have to think holistically, which apparently a lot of people are unable to do.  

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On 15/6/2016 at 8:07 AM, Didymus said:

I didn't write that to put Gaga down,

hahahahahha yeahh sure Didymus

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13 minutes ago, AgusPop said:

hahahahahha yeahh sure Didymus

This is not the point of the thread, stay on topic and the discussion about his “hatred" for Gaga is tired and obnoxious.

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Nicki Minaj also stayed quiet when gay marriage was legalized in the US.

None of these celebrities are forced to speak out on things, but you'd think that with a massive following of different groups of people, they would.  

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On 16/06/2016 at 11:56 AM, AJH219 said:

I'd rather them never tweet a fluffy, useless, statement and instead put their time towards actually doing something to combat a problem. We don't know what Nicki or Taylor or anyone does behind the scenes. Not everyone wants their advocacy made into a spectacle. Personally, the older I get, the more tacky I find it when people brag all over social medias about how much they've done to advance a cause; as if one person's help surpasses another (contradicting statement I know because in some cases it does). I made a remark on Sunday about Disney not saying anything about this attack that happened right in their backyard, and guess what, the next day they donate $1 million  

Its not fair to criticize people based on their lack of social media support. If that's the case then a lot of my pro-gay friends and family are "haterz" in you all's eyes. No one's intentions should be free from questioning. Not yours, not mine, not even Lady Gaga or, yes, even Madonna. Like it or not, someone always has something to gain. You have to think holistically, which apparently a lot of people are unable to do.  

I fully agree. Azealia Banks once went after Iggy for not tweeting any support for blacks after a shooting and said that she obviously didn't care. Iggy made the classiest response saying that just because someone doesn't put their thoughts in  a tweet doesn't mean that they don't care or aren't doing anything to help and she then tweeted ways that people can help, along with links. Even Azealia couldn't come up with a comeback for that. And yes, it's common to trash someone for not saying anything and the very next day, they make a generous donation or something (I said that about Taylor when she kept quiet during the Kesha case and the very next day, she donated all that money to paying her legal bills). If we don't know, we can only judge so much.

I think it's sad how we've become so consumed by the internet and social media nowadays that we think if a celebrity doesn't tweet about a recent tragedy, it means they don't know/don't care. We civilians don't tweet about every event that happens in the world (some of us don't even have Twitter), so why should celebrities? We have our own lives and our own problems to deal with. Most people only tweet messages of support about things that affect them directly and truly move them because that's being real. Tweeting a message of support just because it's the right thing to do is fake. I miss the days when you had to ask people their opinion on something to get a handle on them instead of basing perceptions of them from their social media. Believe it or not, some of us have better and more important things to do than constantly tweet. As if tweeting's going to change anything anyway! What did we do in the days before social media existed to air our opinions? Oh, yes, we actually talked about them in person and kept them within our own minds! Honestly, the internet age has brought about so many good things, but a helluva lot of bad things too - over-reliance on social media is one of them.