Madonna performs on Jimmy Fallon

[Bradley 59,251]

7 hours ago, Psychedelic said:

First of al because Madonna's performance was not promoting anything, it was a just for fun thing, how can you compare it to Gaga's promotional performances? 

We all know Gaga is miles better as a vocalist. This compartison has no sense!!!

 

If you don't want idiotic Madge stans bashing some aspects of Gaga as an artists to illustrate how Madonna is better in those ones, then don't be like them the way around!!! 

 

 

The bold part: Just because it is known to everyone doesn't make the comparison invalid. Anyone can still make vocal comparisons at any time between the artists.

Secondly, take the DWUW on Alan Carr for example, it didn't have any dancers or outrageous stage props, just a piano and Gaga's vocals, still is a better performance than the OP. It doesn't matter if Madonna was promoting a new album or not, 

both Gaga (on Alan Carr singing dWUW) and Madonna with Borderline did not rely on stage props and were supposed to showcase their singing and performing abilities. Not sure about you but I found Gaga more impressive. It's not like I compared a VMA performance to a Jimmy Fallon show performance.

 

[Bellatrix 34,811]

24 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said:

Typical Madonna fan. Rude. Oh wait, another Madonna fan (froot) liked your comment, like I said, Madonna fans are rude.

So this is how Madonna educated her fans. I'm glad I was educated by Born This Way and Gaga instead. Kindness and talent and quality always prevail over rudeness and flat vocals.

Excuse me, but no. Don't judge an entire group for something just a few people does. I've seen some pretty damn rude Gaga fans, but are all Gaga fans rude for that? No.

[LUO YI 6,089]

It was al about the performance but no, Haters come here to talk **** 

Stay pressedT

Cute performance  when will MDNA?

[Solitaire 902]

This was the first live performance of Madonna's that I've ever watched and I have to say, idk what the fuss is about 

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don't come at me with the "SHe's DoNE sOOO muCH foR PoP mUUUuUSic!1!!!" argument bc I understand that and respect her for it, I'm just saying that if this is what she normally sounds like and isn't having an off day or something here.. 

 

[jojuun 4,159]

2 hours ago, Bradley Cooper said:

Madonna might have good props or visuals at her tour, but she lacks attitude and personality, even Rihanna's personality is edgier and more admirable.

 

"Madonna lacks attitude and personality". I ain't even going to discuss that. Call me when you find another 50+ icon with Madonna's energy, stage presence and attitude.

[jojuun 4,159]

Also everyone who acts as if Madonna can't sing for sh*t needs to do their research.

 

 

[LePetitGAGABLover 21,234]

This woman is older than my grandma and she looks STUNNING

What's her secret for looking so young and youthful

[Jenniferella 2,774]

12 hours ago, LORD GAGA said:

This is what Madonna should be doing, this was a good performance, no try-hard controversy, just a simple down to earth performance, enjoyable.  If only she did this kind of thing during MDNA and Rebel Heart, instead of relying on controversy with other artists and z-list collabs.

If she played it safe throughout her career, she wouldn't be where she is today.

[Didymus 34,380]

47 minutes ago, DevilHeart said:

If she played it safe throughout her career, she wouldn't be where she is today.

But on the other hand, you also have to admit she's not pushing any boundaries now Her career is just about static rn. Just repeating what she's already done, and doing it way worse too. So I actually agree with @LORD GAGA that this is a welcome relief from her usual "I'm still relevant!" antics.

Though I agree with you that she has a lot more potential, but it's just not being used, I feel. Both MDNA and Rebel Heart were throwaway pop records. Madonna should not make throwaway pop records, point ****ing blank.

[Jenniferella 2,774]

1 minute ago, Didymus said:

But on the other hand, you also have to admit she's not pushing any boundaries now Her career is just about static rn. Just repeating what she's already done, and doing it way worse too. So I actually agree with @LORD GAGA that this is a welcome relief from her usual "I'm still relevant!" antics.

Though I agree with you that she has a lot more potential, but it's just not being used, I feel. Both MDNA and Rebel Heart were throwaway pop records. Madonna should not make throwaway pop records, point ****ing blank.

I have a big problem with people stating "XXX-person "should" do this and that". Well, just no. She should not do anything because you expect or want her to do so. Yes, it is petty that she felt the need to collab with shitty artists like Minaj, Rita Ora, Taylor Swift or else (she should have kept MIA and that's it) to stay relevant, but I honestly don't know what I would do if I were her. She's been a mega star since the 80's and now that she's almost 60 people are trying to dismiss what she always been doing (sexual and provocative) because "she's too old for this" or "she's been doing it her whole life". So what ? She's not too old for this, society thinks she is, big difference. And who cares if she did this during her whole career ? Who is going to show these 50+ yo women that you don't have to get passed your personality because of the way people see it ? It's unfair.

When I'm in my 50's, I don't want arrogant ass kids to tell me I can't wear those trousers or these sunglasses because they're made for young people. 

[Didymus 34,380]

1 minute ago, DevilHeart said:

She's been a mega star since the 80's and now that she's almost 60 people are trying to dismiss what she always been doing (sexual and provocative) because "she's too old for this" or "she's been doing it her whole life". So what ? She's not too old for this, society thinks she is, big difference. And who cares if she did this during her whole career ? Who is going to show these 50+ yo women that you don't have to get passed your personality because of the way people see it ? It's unfair.

Well, that's not what I'm saying, just to clarify. I loved her Met Gala look for instance, that was classic Madonna. What I was referring to was something that Madonna has said herself about her act back in the 80s: "You should never do the same thing twice."

It doesn't necessarily have something to do with age, it's about the public (or me at least) wanting her to develop her act like she has for decades instead of relying on tricks we've already seen, and tricks that are just in poor quality too.

I mean, which performance is still, to this day, more thought-provoking? Like a Virgin at the Blond Ambition Tour or Holy Water at the Rebel Heart Tour? I know. That's what it's about. And I also resent the idea that we should suddenly now respect Madonna for her personality, erm, this is a woman who literally said she played characters every era. Just like a good actress, you don't sign up to do the same movie 10x.

[Jenniferella 2,774]

2 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, that's not what I'm saying, just to clarify. I loved her Met Gala look for instance, that was classic Madonna. What I was referring to was something that Madonna has said herself about her act back in the 80s: "You should never do the same thing twice."

It doesn't necessarily have something to do with age, it's about the public (or me at least) wanting her to develop her act like she has for decades instead of relying on tricks we've already seen, and tricks that are just in poor quality too.

I mean, which performance is still, to this day, more thought-provoking? Like a Virgin at the Blond Ambition Tour or Holy Water at the Rebel Heart Tour? I know. That's what it's about. And I also resent the idea that we should suddenly now respect Madonna for her personality, erm, this is a woman who literally said she played characters every era. Just like a good actress, you don't sign up to do the same movie 10x.

Let's agree to disagree, I really don't see it the same way you do clearly, it's no problem though.

[Bradley 59,251]

4 hours ago, jojuun said:

 

"Madonna lacks attitude and personality". I ain't even going to discuss that. Call me when you find another 50+ icon with Madonna's energy, stage presence and attitude.

Lol if you consider that good energy and on-stage personality.

[LORD GAGA 1,271]

2 hours ago, DevilHeart said:

If she played it safe throughout her career, she wouldn't be where she is today.

That may be so, but what she has been doing lately has not been doing her career or legacy any favours... far from it. She isn't pushing boundaries anymore, she has become stale. This performance is refreshing and not contrived. 

[Didymus 34,380]

For the record though.. why are people in here comparing this performance to some of Gaga's? Or Madonna and Gaga as performers based on this particular performance?

That's just.. super unfair. You can only really compare the performances both did in the same time period, i.e. 5/6 years into their careers for Gaga's last pop era (ARTPOP). For Madonna that was 1987-8, i.e. the Who's That Girl era which had a tour of course, a tour that broke several records in terms of ticket sales and audience attendance (1.6 million people worldwide, nearly 680.000 more attendants than artRAVE's audience, with half the amount of shows).

Some performances (good test: just watch it and imagine Gaga's doing this stuff - you won't be able to, which is telling):

^ Note the perfect mix between choreo and vocals, and how she's working an entire stadium crowd all on her own with no one else on stage for the greater part of the song.

^ Holding her own in that absolutely iconic costume, delivering rock star sass and crisp vocals as well as high energy movement.

^ Costume change on stage, typically 80s Madonna humorous sexual button pushing. At this time it was still pretty harmless, her more intense sexual provocation becoming a staple from her next tour onwards (note: evolution in her act).

^ High energy performance near the end of the concert. Vocals are still on point, still working the stage with a minimum of theatrics or dancers. High energy choreo at 4:57.

^ Closing number. A sweat-soaked Madonna still delivering high quality vocals and high energy choreo after 90 minutes of what's essentially a one-woman show with no breaks other than fast-paced costume changes.

Now it's true this is a very stripped down tour compared to her others, but so was artRAVE so it's a good comparison. And this is 1987 ofc, folks. This is high level stage technology at this point. Ànd it was actually a huge step up from her previous tour (contrary to artRAVE), and she would top this one with the iconic Blond Ambition Tour three years later which featured incredibly theatrical set designs and pieces, an elevated choreography, and a more emotional tone aided by a show that's essentially story-telling, à la Monster Ball 2.0.

So imo Madge is clearly able to keep up with Gaga's performance skill, and easily topping her in terms of long-lasting energy. The choreo, too, doesn't feel like a series of rehearsed steps, she gives her all and makes it look like she's just doing it on the spot, all the while delivering crisp vocals with zero lip-syncing and very little vocal/dance back-up.

So shut up