SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Which one is more "ART" to you? To me, it's clearly the first, and it's ironic that in ARTPOP, her performance became less "high art". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstereo 1,232 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm confused The first vid is TFM, not TF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 1 minute ago, monstereo said: I'm confused The first vid is TFM, not TF That's what I meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 You posted a TFM era performance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just now, MaryJaneHolland said: You posted a TFM era performance... But the people in the flower hats. I really couldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstereo 1,232 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 TFM was wayyyyyyy more artistic. ARTPOP had a lot of references to part art, but it lacked the originality that TFM had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKOUTbritney 22,359 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 IMO The Fame Monster but I think you just chose a meh performance for ARTPOP. I think her ARTPOP performance on the tonight show is a better representation of ARTPOP's artistic performances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizurl 1,801 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 By more "art", you mean more avant-garde? In that case, TFM is a far better choice. Though for ARTPOP, I think her intention was entirely different. It was to caricaturize POP, rather than seem like above it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just now, monstereo said: TFM was wayyyyyyy more artistic. ARTPOP had a lot of references to part art, but it lacked the originality that TFM had. I agree w/ you but a reference for the sake of a reference, or a clumsy reference looks cheap imo. Lyrics like "I want your Psycho, your Vertigo shtick, want you in my Rear Window" is pure pop perfection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 The Fame (Monster) obviously 1 minute ago, SMILE2NE1 said: But the people in the flower hats. I really couldn't. Didn't she say that it was the only way to 'involve' the fans into the performance?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Both are art to me. There's not one that's 'more art'. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Just now, kizurl said: By more "art", you mean more avant-garde? In that case, TFM is a far better choice. Though for ARTPOP, I think her intention was entirely different. It was to caricaturize POP, rather than seem like above it. In a way I do mean avant garde, but even moreso original, impactful and clean. I understand the message which ARTPOP, but on the surface, it made everything look "cheap" even though it was intentionally a caricature. An example from another star could be Kanye's Bound 2 video - I mean it was art directed by Nick Knight! - as a parody, but the general public just saw it as cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMILE2NE1 3,566 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: The Fame (Monster) obviously Didn't she say that it was the only way to 'involve' the fans into the performance?? I just feel as if after Dada left, and a lot of her team, she is surrounded by "Yes" people. E.g. the guy who made the Judas single said to take a picture of something on Microsoft Word was a "**** you" to an era of digital editing - no it's not, it just looks cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Gaga 8,227 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 To me , fame or fame monster era is the real ARTPOP era . the born this way era is the real fame monster era .😂😂😂 8 minutes ago, SMILE2NE1 said: Which one is more "ART" to you? To me, it's clearly the first, and it's ironic that in ARTPOP, her performance became less "high art". Hit me a message and say hi ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 TFM See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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