Gaga needs to stop being afraid of flopping

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

4 minutes ago, kabirartfling said:

I am Reading these meltdown threads & LAUGHING ......she has successfully dissected her fandom to get more space for the new ones!

True. Thank God for all the newbies. The old guard failed to protect Mother Monster. It's the straight male who will give Gaga back her crown.

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

Just now, A Gaga Lad said:

For now

Omg

I'm not into ass-kissing but she's a smart woman and she can reinvent herself very easily and be at the top of her game whenever she really wants it. The thing is that her career is still young. Give her all the time she needs. I'm so glad she doesn't listen to her fans tbh.

[M I M I Z 946]

+ I'm blaming Bobby too for letting her do these side projects: singing jazz, AHS, dogs clothing line, tributes etc and not focusing on one thing in particular.

what kind of manager is this?

[kabirartfling 9,063]

Just now, Lord Temptation said:

True. Thank God for all the newbies. The old guard failed to protect Mother Monster. It's the straight male who will give Gaga back her crown.

Yes lets throw the gays away .............wait 

[Dangerous Man 9,245]

Or we should stop dragging her and let her be. She's still a human being, she also has weaknesses and insecurities. You guys are expecting too much from her. That's sad.

[SISTERV 3,887]

I agree. You have to release shut and be willing to fail to have a comeback. Hate to say it Gaga, but, look 90s Madonna!

[Didymus 34,379]

25 minutes ago, Denys said:

maybe she wasn't happy with the work with redone because she wants to show other sides.

Then why work with him at all? That's what I've been wondering.

25 minutes ago, Denys said:

If anything she has been more fierce after ARTPOP's under performance, daring to go where other pop girls won't. 

Not really true. Lots of her competition has already done jazz performances, Christina even performed with Tony on tv already long before Gaga and she performed at a jazz festival in 2014 months before the C2C era started. She also of course did her Back to Basics era which was a modern take on old-school jazz and soul. Ariana performed with Michael Bublé and even did a semi-classical duet with Andrea Bocelli. Beyoncé has done jazz renditions of her own songs live as well as singing soul standards such as At Last, which she also ended up releasing as a single. And of course she starred in Dreamgirls, where she sang 60's/70's style R&B non-stop. Nicole Scherzinger did Webber standards live on tv and took part in a new version of the musical Cats, both to rave reviews. The list goes on.

The only thing Gaga added to the gist of those examples is that she made a whole jazz era and went on a tour with Tony. While that's of course admirable, you can ask yourself the question if that was really a daring thing to do. She already showcased her jazz capabilities multiple times throughout her career, mostly of course by appearing on Tony's Duets II album with Tramp which got a music video. She didn't really show anything that we hadn't seen before, except for a few incredibly emotional performances of La vie en rose and Lush Life, but she could've just done the PBS special and called it a day, doing a few performances here and there. The fact that she extended her dipping her toe in some jazz into a full-length era is not a step up from her peers at all. A cynic might say it was a safe commercial decision since she could get plenty of headlines and success (simply for being Lady Gaga who could actually sing) while not releasing one original thing for two years. In the end though the C2C album was not critically appreciated, the reviews summing up what could count for the whole era: did we really need this?

The C2C era and all that it involved (Sound of Music tribute for instance) was a very safe choice for her. She was bound to impress easily just because people didn't expect her to be able to pull off those performances (which does not mean she pulled off incredible performances that are vastly superior to those of her peers), and she could stay more or less relevant in the public eye without doing anything related to the brand that wore off, and she could manufacture a tremendous anticipation for her next album, solely because of her vocal talent (which in itself has nothing to do with interest in her act). This does put a huge amount of pressure on her next album because it has to satisfy all those expectations. But if she pulls it off, the gains will be tremendous. Which I'm sure is why it's taking so long to make this thing.

The last daring thing she did was collaborating with Robert Wilson for the Louvre.

[Noam Zioni 1,196]

She's not afraid + lg5 wasn't scrapped

[Chelseaaaaaa 1,453]

I wouldn't want to come back to pop music either knowing my fans think the way many of you do. As I've said before: y'all should recognize WHY she is so hesitant and be supportive opposed to being part of the problem. Jazz and rock seems to be her comfort zone right now and that's fine with me as a fan of both genres. But, as I've also seen, fans of both music styles are far more gracious and accepting. Go figure.

[Didymus 34,379]

5 minutes ago, M I M I Z said:

+ I'm blaming Bobby too for letting her do these side projects: singing jazz, AHS, dogs clothing line, tributes etc and not focusing on one thing in particular.

what kind of manager is this?

All those side projects brought Gaga an enlarged audience and about 20x more hype for her next album. From a commercial pov, this "side project era" was her best designed era yet.

[Bloody 64,631]

You are all putting so much pressure on her, give her a break. 

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

9 minutes ago, M I M I Z said:

+ I'm blaming Bobby too for letting her do these side projects: singing jazz, AHS, dogs clothing line, tributes etc and not focusing on one thing in particular.

what kind of manager is this?

He's the kind of manager who cares about her image and more importantly about her! He's a true friend and he definitely wants the best for Gaga... unlike most of her fanbase.

[River 116,209]

Nothing has been scrapped, RedOne got himself into a mess with his white lie, he had to say bullshit and to avoid giving too much info and it became a mess..

Releasing a jazz album before LG5 is a smart idea because she can promote herself very easily and then keep the hype warm and release LG5...

Just trust her, she's not afraid, ARTPOP was released during a bad time and now it's over, she's in a good place and wants to top her previous work, so give her time and just enjoy the break..

[yxi 4,999]

I don't blame her for not wanting to be back into the cutthroat world of pop... She is an artist and her own fans treat her as a commercial product who cannot evolve and who should only exist to shurn out hit singles after hit singles to compete with talentless pop girls.. I think she is better outside of this world.

[M I M I Z 946]

12 minutes ago, Didymus said:

All those side projects brought Gaga an enlarged audience and about 20x more hype for her next album. From a commercial pov, this "side project era" was her best designed era yet.

Yes she gained a few fans from C2C era but lost much more fans at the same time.

+ no one care about LG5 except the fans and that's the truth.