Donald Trump’s Breathtaking Flip-Flop On ‘Self Funding’

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Via HuffPo

Donald Trump on Monday met privately with New York Jets owner Woody Johnson, a top GOP fundraiser who previously supported former presidential candidate Jeb Bush, according to The New York Times.

On Tuesday, Trump’s campaign announced that Johnson would serve as a vice chair for the Trump Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee set up by the campaign and the Republican National Committee. Donors to the apparatus may contribute far larger amounts than in previous elections — up to $450,000 apiece. (Likely Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton struck a similar agreement with the Democratic National Committee.)

But Trump has boasted, time and time again, about self-funding his campaign. It is one of his most popular lines among his supporters. Moreover, he has repeatedly accused his rivals of being beholden to billionaires, special interests and lobbyists simply by taking their money.

During a February speech in New Hampshire, Trump suggested that Johnson, who was born to the Johnson & Johnson pharmaceutical family, would impede Bush from renegotiating Medicare drug prices, as Trump has promised to do.

NBC reported:

Trump predicted Jeb Bush would avoid taking on the issue as president because Woody Johnson, whose family founded Johnson & Johnson, served as his campaign chairman.

“I have no friends, as far as I’m concerned,” Trump said. “You know who my friends are? You’re my friends.”

By contrast, Trump said his private fortune would enable him to say no to wealthy interests after the election. He’s complained recently that he doesn’t get enough credit for self-financing — Trump does accept campaign donations, but he and Bernie Sanders are the only two major candidates turning down super PAC support.

“I don’t need your money, I need your vote,” Trump said.

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The same Johnson is now working for Trump in a similar role.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Trump denied the contradiction between his earlier campaign promises and the new fundraising effort because he is “raising money for the party.”

That’s simply not the case. As the AP noted, the terms of the agreement stipulate that the first $5,400 of every check raised goes to Trump’s primary and general election accounts. The rest goes to the RNC and 11 state parties. Moreover, even though the RNC will use the money it receives toward electing House and Senate candidates, it also spends a significant amount of time and resources on voter identification and turnout for the presidential election — efforts that will surely benefit Trump.

Trump spun the fundraising arrangement as something that was put upon him by the RNC, one that he only agreed to reluctantly. 

“The RNC really wanted to do it, and I want to show good spirit,” Trump told the AP. “‘Cause I was very happy to continue to go along the way I was.”

 

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2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

“The RNC really wanted to do it, and I want to show good spirit,” Trump told the AP. “‘Cause I was very happy to continue to go along the way I was.”

*sniff sniff* smell that children? Is the circus in town? That's either sadness and elephant sh*t or Trump is talking again 

I like how he's still keeping up the "self funded" charade too  I wonder how much of these funds will be going into his own pocket when he goes back to New York after his loss in November

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, PartySick said:

*sniff sniff* smell that children? Is the circus in town? That's either sadness and elephant sh*t or Trump is talking again 

I like how he's still keeping up the "self funded" charade too  I wonder how much of these funds will be going into his own pocket when he goes back to New York after his loss in November

Well he's going to ask for reimbursements  

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2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well he's going to ask for reimbursements  

I would too if I loaned myself ~18 million bucks to pull history's most elaborate prank on the world

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Daily reminder: 

 

[MJHolland 12,725]

He bragged about self funding is primary campaign. Never the general campaign. He only promised to fund his campaign up until the general, which is pretty honorable. Primary season is when politicians REALLY try to pander to their base and funders and they get stuck having positions they don't believe.

You and the Huffington Post are either ignorant to the facts or you're both trying to slander Trump. It's a tired act. There's enough material in the world to bash Trump. No need to spread lies, buddy.

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15 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Well he's going to ask for reimbursements  

The money he's spent wasn't in the form of loans, it was lending. He could reimburse himself even if he wanted. Here you go again just making up facts about Trump to slander him. Just stick to the actual facts to attack him. There's more than enough.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-03-09/trump-wont-repay-presidential-campaign-loans-manager-says

^ so you can educate yourself 

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I CANT AT THE GIF

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 hour ago, MJHolland said:

He bragged about self funding is primary campaign. Never the general campaign. He only promised to fund his campaign up until the general, which is pretty honorable. Primary season is when politicians REALLY try to pander to their base and funders and they get stuck having positions they don't believe.

You and the Huffington Post are either ignorant to the facts or you're both trying to slander Trump. It's a tired act. There's enough material in the world to bash Trump. No need to spread lies, buddy.

Wait what...you're not calling this a flip flop now? I don't care that he switched to relying on special interests. That's not the point. The mere fact that he said he wouldn't go that route then went for it when it became necessary is a flip flop.  You've called Hillary a flip flopper after she went to support same-sex marriage after 7 years of silence on the issue. You refuse to call Trump a flip flopper after he switches his tune within 2 months and within the same election cycle? That's an actual flip flop.

For one he's lying about self-funding his campaign, so all his boasts have been lies so far. So there's that.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-fec-fundraising-214838

Donations to his campaign is not self-funding. That's an outright lie. He isn't digging into his own pockets. Barely even.

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 hours ago, MJHolland said:

The money he's spent wasn't in the form of loans, it was lending. He could reimburse himself even if he wanted. Here you go again just making up facts about Trump to slander him. Just stick to the actual facts to attack him. There's more than enough.

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-03-09/trump-wont-repay-presidential-campaign-loans-manager-says

^ so you can educate yourself 

Educate myself about what? He won't repay anything. He'll get reimbursed for what he spent by the RNC.

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 hour ago, LebaneseDude said:

Wait what...you're not calling this a flip flop now? I don't care that he switched to relying on special interests. That's not the point. The mere fact that he said he wouldn't go that route then went for it when it became necessary is a flip flop.  You've called Hillary a flip flopper after she went to support same-sex marriage after 7 years of silence on the issue. You refuse to call Trump a flip flopper after he switches his tune within 2 months and within the same election cycle? That's an actual flip flop.

For one he's lying about self-funding his campaign, so all his boasts have been lies so far. So there's that.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-fec-fundraising-214838

Donations to his campaign is not self-funding. That's an outright lie. He isn't digging into his own pockets. Barely even.

 

Mate... He was it VERY clear from the absolute beining that he'd self fund the primary. Never once did he even hint he'd self fund his general campaign. He specifically said over and over again that he hadn't decided if he was or was not going to self fund the general. 

I can put everyone for flip flopping, including Trump on several issues. This is not one of them. 

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2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Mate... He was it VERY clear from the absolute beining that he'd self fund the primary. Never once did he even hint he'd self fund his general campaign. He specifically said over and over again that he hadn't decided if he was or was not going to self fund the general. 

I can put everyone for flip flopping, including Trump on several issues. This is not one of them. 

He has said he won't take money from special interests and he even mocked others for using PACs. That's what I'm commenting on.

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17 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

He has said he won't take money from special interests and he even mocked others for using PACs. That's what I'm commenting on.

That's really only problematic in primaries. In the general it really doesn't have a huge pull on a candidates values. Primary elections are where candidates flip and get in trouble. 

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14 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

That's really only problematic in primaries. In the general it really doesn't have a huge pull on a candidates values. Primary elections are where candidates flip and get in trouble. 

You don't really believe this, do you? Trump's whole claim was centered around the fact that he would "answer to no one" if he was President...because he would self fund. He stated that when a lobbyist called him, offering $5 million to support his candidacy, he claimed to have responded: “I don’t want it. Because when you come back to me in two years and you want help for a company that you’re representing, or a country that you’re representing, I’m going to do the right thing for the people of the United States.” If he took the money, he said “I’d feel obligated, because I’m a loyal person.” IN TWO YEARS....meaning when he was President. So now he will take that money from that person, and as he said, he will be "loyal" and help that person's company. 

Trump will now feel “obligated” to those who give and that he too will be a “puppet,” loyal to his donors and their needs. He flip-flopped and now will do what he claims all the rest of the candidates do and have done for as long as there have been elections at every level in the US. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

23 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

That's really only problematic in primaries. In the general it really doesn't have a huge pull on a candidates values. Primary elections are where candidates flip and get in trouble. 

Ah well...