Bernie Continues To Trash Democrat Party In Effort To Win Them Over

[Wenli 826]

1 minute ago, Whispering said:

But he's not.

Bernie wants to do away with Superdelegates, but he is wanting the Superdelegates to go against the will of the people and switch to him instead. He complains about money in political races but he has spent more money per every vote he has received than any other candidate. He complaines that Hillary isn't transparent, yet he won't release his tax returns. In fact, he lied about them and placed the blame for not releasing them on his wife. He has more dishonest statements than Hillary does, when you look at the sites that keep up with both their statements. 

I used to like Bernie, but the veil has been lifted.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

54 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Ok well I didn't mean totally dissolve the parties or something, friend

I meant people being able to think for themselves. You have Republicans supporting Trump solely because he's a Republican and Democrats and Independents expected to support Hillary solely because she's Democrat. You know? Taking "party loyalty" to the extreme. It's ok to go against the grain and criticize your own party but we've created an environment where that's seen as an attack from a rogue agent or something.

This isn't bipartisanship though. This is ideological zealotry.

You can have two parties or you can have twenty. People will always gravitate towards the group that serves their interest best while demonizing those that go against them, as they've done since the dawn of time.

In this case however, it's not inaccurate to correlate Trump with a demon.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

Good for him trashing that party and its leaders though. 

Why are you demonizing them?

[PartySick 172,529]

7 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

 

Laugh all you want, it's true :cryga:

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We need cryga back

 

[PartySick 172,529]

7 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

This isn't bipartisanship though. This is ideological zealotry.

You can have two parties or you can have twenty. People will always gravitate towards the group that serves their interest best while demonizing those that go against them, as they've done since the dawn of time.

In this case however, it's not inaccurate to correlate Trump with a demon.

To put it simply, my whole nonsensical spew was me basically saying I don't like this^. I know it's the reality and human nature and blah blah but I simply don't like it

I'll play the game but I refuse to have fun

Spoiler

With you on the Trump thing.

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Laugh all you want, it's true :cryga:

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We need cryga back

 

I'm laughing because I have the same thinking process as you do.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, PartySick said:

To put it simply, my whole nonsensical spew was me basically saying I don't like this^. I know it's the reality and human nature and blah blah but I simply don't like it

I'll play the game but I refuse to have fun

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With you on the Trump thing.

 

I don't like it either.

The issue is I dislike ignorance even more.

[RAMROD 117,040]

13 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Proof of allegations?

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros, Morgan Piper, Morgan Case, Ernst & Young, etc etc etc

 

22 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

So was Obama's backers...  

 

Except Obama is a good guy.  

[PartySick 172,529]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

I'm laughing because I have the same thinking process as you do.

Little optimists getting by in a big cruel world always believing there's something better to be had 

 

[Morphine Prince 109,655]

9 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Why are you demonizing them?

Because I think both parties are so full of shit 

and because I'm 

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

7 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros, Morgan Piper, Morgan Case, Ernst & Young, etc etc etc

 

Except Obama is a good guy.  

Right those are contributors.

Where do you have any proof that they hold the strings or will have any effect on the presidency?

Those groups will want to support someone. Why support Sanders or Trump over Clinton? Why assume it's because Hillary supports them, as opposed to them supporting the only one who isn't considerably less compromising or an outright idiot.

For people who value optimism so much, you seem very eager to impose pessimistic perspectives.

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Oh and look at Clinton's history before you try to frame her as a bad person.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Because I think both parties are so full of shit 

and because I'm 

 

All parties are full of ****.

Even Independent ones, except those haven't had the opportunity to put it on full display  

If you dislike them all, then pick the one that ****s you over the least, or just don't join anything.

Last I checked though, the only ones who have contributed anything to American progressive values are the Democrats.

So the Democrats are the one least full of **** of all  

[Whispering 18,865]

4 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros, Morgan Piper, Morgan Case, Ernst & Young, etc etc etc

 

Except Obama is a good guy.  

He took the same money that Hillary is taking. Obama's policies match up closely with Hillary's. 

He will soon support her for the presidency. 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

6 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?id=N00000019

Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros, Morgan Piper, Morgan Case, Ernst & Young, etc etc etc

 

Except Obama is a good guy.  

So is Hillary, at least behind the scenes anyway...   

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, Whispering said:

He took the same money that Hillary is taking. Obama's policies match up closely with Hillary's. 

He will soon support her for the presidency. 

He's already endorsed her indirectly.