Is Gaga imitating Amy Winehouse?

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I forgot how much they look alike 

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2 hours ago, Sycamore said:

I always thought Gaga and Amy are very similiar musicians. But Gaga is not imitating her. She just has the same taste as Amy. 

This! 

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1 hour ago, Bitter said:

i'm sure she wants to be as acclaimed as Amy was.

She already is 

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Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said:

She already is 

nope.

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I'd love to see the opinions of Amy if she was still alive. Would we still be tearing her apart? I feel like the answer is: yes.

Make sure we appreciate our artists while they are still alive 

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1 minute ago, Bitter said:

nope.

How so?

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1 hour ago, Snow said:

Erm no I don't think so really. In The end they are very very different artists and musicians. One is mainstream pop dance artist and one is very jazz/Soul. (And don't even try with The big band/swing album. No, Gaga is not an actual jazz singer, eventhough she sang some and is a great singer). And this is not in anyway meant as a negative. In essence they are very very different artists which is great. They wouldnt be The same even doing The same song in same clothing with same ppl. Each to their own!

Though like said above, I would too love some Soul/jazz/bigband influences on LG5 prefably done in some "New" and interesting way.

I love this post.  I look at one thing a little differently, tho.  I think Gaga is a jazz singer as well as a pop singer.  I first noticed Gaga because her phrasing ability in a pop song in 2010.  I told my jazz musician friends in 2010 that beneath Gaga's pop persona is a talented jazz singer.  Billie Holiday is known as a blues singer but was a talented jazz singer.  Janis Joplin considered herself a blues singer but was so talented in several genres that fans of each genre adopted her as a singer of that genre.  I think we look at the phrase "an actual jazz singer" differently.

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1 hour ago, Ronk said:

I love this post.  I look at one thing a little differently, tho.  I think Gaga is a jazz singer as well as a pop singer.  I first noticed Gaga because her phrasing ability in a pop song in 2010.  I told my jazz musician friends in 2010 that beneath Gaga's pop persona is a talented jazz singer.  Billie Holiday is known as a blues singer but was a talented jazz singer.  Janis Joplin considered herself a blues singer but was so talented in several genres that fans of each genre adopted her as a singer of that genre.  I think we look at the phrase "an actual jazz singer" differently.

And its perfectly fine to disagree. And The term actual jazz singer is pretty much up for debate. But for me and My collegues its mainly The phrasing and usage of various tones that makes Gaga "not" an jazz singer for me/us. (I repeat, eventhough she's a great singer without a doubt). And i haven't heard her sing actual proper jazz with adlibs and all, so cant really even give a true opinion on the matter, as c2c is more bigband/swing rather than jazz.But we can disagree politely and agree on The OP.

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3 hours ago, Snow said:

And its perfectly fine to disagree. And The term actual jazz singer is pretty much up for debate. But for me and My collegues its mainly The phrasing and usage of various tones that makes Gaga "not" an jazz singer for me/us. (I repeat, eventhough she's a great singer without a doubt). And i haven't heard her sing actual proper jazz with adlibs and all, so cant really even give a true opinion on the matter, as c2c is more bigband/swing rather than jazz.But we can disagree politely and agree on The OP.

What a person considers to be "jazz" differs widely based on background, tastes, and even generation.  There are lists of jazz sub-genres that show 50 or more styles.  My father was a jazz musician throughout the 1940s and '50s.  He played sax in several big bands.  Big band music is definitely considered to be jazz and has its own sub-genres.  My dad played in swing bands, but there were also sweet bands (like Guy Lombardo).  While both swing and sweet bands played the old jazz standards that Tony Bennett sings, much of it for dancing in the ballrooms, the musicians saw a world of difference between swing and sweet.

Improvisation is an interesting thing.  I video recorded more than 20 jazz concerts by 4 jazz bands in upstate NY.  They all play the songs that Tony Bennett sings and others like it from the jazz age.  I asked one of the band leaders what was on the music on the stands.  He said, just the melody and the names of the chords.  What the musicians actually play is not written there, they improvise and play it differently every time.  Tony Bennett doesn't like to rehearse because he improvises and sings the song how he feels it at the moment.  I compared his recordings and found, yes, he sings some different notes or different phrasing, yet it doesn't sound improvised to the listener.  I don't know how much Gaga does that, but I know she has a real sense of swing within her which is most evident in the faster upbeat songs.  Whether she will ever scat like Ella, I don't know.

It is my experience that jazz doesn't have to be wild or hot like, perhaps, Dizzy Gillespie, and it doesn't have to be obviously ad-libbed.   Even songs that sound like old ballroom dance tunes or ballads can still be jazz.  But I totally respect your opinion.   I think our perspectives come from different backgrounds and from what we and our friends are into.

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On May 11, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Emigrante said:

sure she is!

 

They look so much alike from the side. Such beautiful profiles. They have the type of faces an artist wants to paint

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1 minute ago, Church said:

They look so much alike from the side. Such beautiful profiles. They have the type of faces an artist wants to paint

 

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Yes cause all that Lady Xerox do is live other's people lives, right?

bye

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Maybe gaga actually is Amy Winehouse