Clinton “goysplains” to Bernie Sanders in Passover article

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6 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

Feels like a double standard from you guys. Same Bible? Christians mostly ignore the Old Testament, especially when all the cruelties, slavery, murders etc are brought up. New Testament supposedly replaced all other laws and everything before doesn't really matter, it's just there.

The Jewish people don't believe in Jesus (to put it mildly) and the New Testament. You're making it like she has basically the same religion with them.

Idk why is it so hard for all of you to be fair and admit that this was pandering. It was pandering at AIPAC conference. It's pandering in this condescending article she wrote for right-wing Times Of Israel. 

 

 

Christians study the Old Testament and have lessons and sermons from those stories in every denomination. As someone who has sat in churches across the spectrum of denominations for years, I can tell you that you are way, way off on that statement. It is completely false. 

The he believe in the same God and have much in common as far as that goes. No one ever said it was the same religion. 

Because it was a candidate giving their views and opinions on a topic that is important in the US, especially to a state like New York, with a high Jewish population when compared to the rest of the US. (And a state where Hillary was a senator for two terms) Hillary wasn't sending out pictures of great Jewish leaders and trying to put herself in the same category. Hillary using a story from the Old Testament, is the same Old Testament stories she heard in Bible school and church services growing up. She was using a story she had heard many times and that is also in her Bible that her church declares as the inspired word of God. 

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7 minutes ago, just4fun said:

"Christians mostly ignore the Old Testament" lol. Either you've never been to a Christian church or you're just lying. The story of Exodus is taught in every Christian church. Pastors quote the Old Testament all the time. Stories of Job, David, and Moses are taught in every Christian church. 

 

I've been Christian for over 20 years, I've been to both Orthodox and Protestant churches and I've been debating with various Christians. Next. 

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10 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Christians study the Old Testament and have lessons and sermons from those stories in every denomination. As someone who has sat in churches across the spectrum of denominations for years, I can tell you that you are way, way off on that statement. It is completely false. 

The he believe in the same God and have much in common as far as that goes. No one ever said it was the same religion. 

Because it was a candidate giving their views and opinions on a topic that is important in the US, especially to a state like New York, with a high Jewish population when compared to the rest of the US. (And a state where Hillary was a senator for two terms) Hillary wasn't sending out pictures of great Jewish leaders and trying to put herself in the same category. Hillary using a story from the Old Testament, is the same Old Testament stories she heard in Bible school and church services growing up. She was using a story she had heard many times and that is also in her Bible that her church declares as the inspired word of God. 

 

She was using Biblical story she heard in her church to write to rightwing blog, to pander to American Jewish voters right before New York primary. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Whispering said:

The he believe in the same God and have much in common as far as that goes. No one ever said it was the same religion. 

 

Not really. Jesus is both son of God and God in Christianity. Judaism rejects him completely. 

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1 minute ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

She was using Biblical story she heard in her church to write to rightwing blog, to pander to American Jewish voters right before New York primary. 

 

Hillary was using a Biblical story that she believes is from the inspired word of God to express her stance on a political issue that is important to many in the US, including many in her home state...the one that she served for two terms, therefore had direct contact with the people of that state. 

This was an issue that was important to populations of New York. Hillary knows that because she served them as an elected official of that state. That's called listening to and considering the needs and important issues of the people that you serve. 

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1 minute ago, Whispering said:

Hillary was using a Biblical story that she believes is from the inspired word of God to express her stance on a political issue that is important to many in the US, including many in her home state...the one that she served for two terms, therefore had direct contact with the people of that state. 

This was an issue that was important to populations of New York. Hillary knows that because she served them as an elected official of that state. That's called listening to and considering the needs and important issues of the people that you serve. 

 

It's called pandering. Does she really need to express her support for military occupation so many times? Does she have to use the Bible? Does she have to conflate the Jewish religion with the state of Israel and condemn critics of the government as anti-Semitic? Does she have to compare Pharaoh to BDS movement, which goes again American freedom of speech? Does she have to condescendingly imply that her opponent, Jewish candidate doesn't do enough for his people? 

 

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14 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

I've been Christian for over 20 years, I've been to both Orthodox and Protestant churches and I've been debating with various Christians. Next. 

Did you grow up in Christian churches in the US? Have you been to services from various denominations in the US for years? If so, you woukd know that the stories of the Old Testament are taught in Bible classes and from pulpits every Sunday in Christian churches across the country. Then there are the summer camps, retreats, religious schools, VBS, Sunday night services, Wednesday night services, Gospel meetings, Tent meetings (during the time that Hillary and Bill grew up), Sunday morning tv, in movies and tv series...the list could go on and on. 

The Old Testament is studied, taught and used in Christian denominations in the US. 

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2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Did you grow up in Christian churches in the US? Have you been to services from various denominations in the US for years? If so, you woukd know that the stories of the Old Testament are taught in Bible classes and from pulpits every Sunday in Christian churches across the country. Then there are the summer camps, retreats, religious schools, VBS, Sunday night services, Wednesday night services, Gospel meetings, Tent meetings (during the time that Hillary and Bill grew up), Sunday morning tv, in movies and tv series...the list could go on and on. 

The Old Testament is studied, taught and used in Christian denominations in the US. 

 

lol

Still pandering. 

 

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6 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

lol

Still pandering. 

 

Lol is what you've got when you know you are completely wrong about a previous statement, huh? 

 

 

I disagree on that subject. 

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Just now, Whispering said:

Lol is what you've got when you know you are completely wrong about a previous statement, huh? 

 

 

I disagree on that subject. 

 

I was not completely wrong. Most Christians do not care about Old Testament, those are "old laws", it doesn't matter if you heard stories about Moses on your Sunday sermon. The New Testament is the most important in Christianity and totally irrelevant in Judaism. 

Yeah I can see you disagree. 

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32 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

I've been Christian for over 20 years, I've been to both Orthodox and Protestant churches and I've been debating with various Christians. Next. 

20 years? Then you'd know those stories are taught in every Christian church. 

Next

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Just now, just4fun said:

20 years? Then you'd know those stories are taught in every Christian church. 

Next

If you were to debate with random Christian and bring up all the controversial verses from Old Testament, can you guess what is their reply? 

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Just now, YourSweet666 said:

 

I was not completely wrong. Most Christians do not care about Old Testament, those are "old laws", it doesn't matter if you heard stories about Moses on your Sunday sermon. The New Testament is the most important in Christianity and totally irrelevant in Judaism. 

Yeah I can see you disagree. 

No, you are completely wrong. The Old Testament is extremely important in understanding what the New Testament is about. I know thinking this isn't the case supports your bias and agenda, but you are way off on your statement. You would know how innacurate your thinking is if you had grown up in the US in families and societies that were predominately Christian. 

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17 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

If you were to debate with random Christian and bring up all the controversial verses from Old Testament, can you guess what is their reply? 

If you were to ask a random Christian, who is somewhere around Hillary's age, about the stories and major people in the Old Testament, they would know exactly what you were talking about. They would tell you that they believe those stories happened and that the Old Testament is the inspired word of God.   

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