Clinton justifies Israeli targeting of civilians in Gaza

[lego 44,165]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Quoting one tragic event to generalize the entire situation? Typical. Honestly stop misdirecting. It's also tragic.

Note that nowhere did anyone mention that Israel doesn't do it too. What is this line of defense? They do it so we can do it too? Are you seriously saying that ANY of this is OK?

The entire point is that Israel has the right to defend itself, as does Palestine have the right to fight for their rights.

Also stop dramatizing things. Hillary has worked for the rights of Palestinian women and children. She simply takes the side of defending Israel as a nation.

If you have the right to criticize anything about her, it's that she doesn't believe in punishing Israel for its actions as retribution for its actions.

I disagree with that notion, but I also don't think that Israel should be punished for defending itself when it has the right to.

Also it's hilarious that you think that the son of someone who worked in politics is supposed to also be magically knowledgeable about politics as well.

 

 

 

One tragic event?! Is that how you call WAR CRIMES these days?

Are you aware of all the Amnesty and Human Rights Watch reports? Are 550 dead children one tragic event too? 

SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PUNISHING ISRAEL FOR WAR CRIMES. Great. That's what makes her despicable human being who doesn't give a **** about human rights. 

Besides being a son of someone who was close with Clintons, he's a journalist and poltical activist, it's funny how a random LG stan thinks he's more knowledgeable about the conflict than him.

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

26 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

One tragic event?! Is that how you call WAR CRIMES these days?

Are you aware of all the Amnesty and Human Rights Watch reports? Are 550 dead children one tragic event too? 

SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PUNISHING ISRAEL FOR WAR CRIMES. Great. That's what makes her despicable human being who doesn't give a **** about human rights. 

Besides being a son of someone who was close with Clintons, he's a journalist and poltical activist, it's funny how a random LG stan thinks he's more knowledgeable about the conflict than him.

 

Well it was you who decided to use one piece of evidence to justify an entire line of thought. What about the crimes committed by Palestinians? They are not entirely unjustified, but why are you blowing them under the table? Do you think I'm not aware of the horrors Palestinians are facing? Do you think I'm oblivious to the fact that Israelis are also living under duress as well?

...What about the Israelis who have nothing to do with their leaders' actions? What about their human rights?

Placing sanctions on Israel has devastating economic impact on its civilians. Just look at what happened to Iraq and Iran. Do you think it's always for the best?

You're so hilariously delusional. You think the world is black and white.

You think I don't know conflict? I was born and raised in Lebanon, sweet thing. I know more about politics and conflict than you ever will in a lifetime. I've EXPERIENCED it.

I've LIVED through two wars. I had to hold my sister as she shivered in fear as Israel carpet bombed Beirut a few miles away from our house. 

I've SEEN death with my own eyes. I've seen the dead remains of civilians when Hezbollah targeted political leaders for assassination. 

I've HEARD the propaganda and the lies on all sides in the Middle East.

Nothing is as simple as you are making it out to be, you poor innocent thing.

If anyone has the right to talk about this stuff on GGD, it's me. Got it?

 

 

[lego 44,165]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

You're walking a really thin line here.

Hillary didn't say that soldiers should kill civilians. She said it's natural that soldiers respond to attacks. 

Once again, do you disagree with that sentiment? What kind of horrible person are you to say that it's better for Israeli soldiers to die to potentially protect Hamas attackers who use civilians as meat shields?

Who the **** are you to value one human life over another? Get off your high horse. Your stance is disgusting.

Stop demonizing Israel and stop anglicizing Palestine. Both have their virtues and both have their faults. That Clinton supports one doesn't mean that she doesn't support the other as well. Quit taking things out of context to justify your disgustingly obvious bias.

 

You are talking to someone about bias.

Hilarious. It's obvious that she supports the occupation and every military action against Palestinians. Israel was bombing densely populated areas, schools, hospitals, markets, buildings. They were not "under attack", they were the aggressors. Hamas responded with homemade rockets. When you see the number of killed on both sides, it's clear it was DISPROPORTIONATE use of force.

She's only standing with the aggressor and demonizing Palestinians, as you are doing as well. She supports war crimes. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

13 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

You are talking to someone about bias.

Hilarious. It's obvious that she supports the occupation and every military action against Palestinians. Israel was bombing densely populated areas, schools, hospitals, markets, buildings. They were not "under attack", they were the aggressors. Hamas responded with homemade rockets. When you see the number of killed on both sides, it's clear it was DISPROPORTIONATE use of force.

She's only standing with the aggressor and demonizing Palestinians, as you are doing as well. She supports war crimes. 

I'm not biased. I prefer Hillary, but I don't pretend that she's without her faults, nor do I assume that Bernie is an evil man out to get me. If I seem like I dislike Bernie, it's because all of you Berniebots resort to hyperbolic reasoning which essentially drives me to up the defense on her. I like him. I would side with him if I was American and a few years younger. I simply know the realities demand pragmatism, something Hillary embodies. It's why I side with her, so don't talk about me as if you know me. You're much easier to read however.

I agree that the force was disproportionate. Did Hillary say it wasn't? She said that the attacks are not without justification. Is that wrong to say? It's one line of thought against another. She's basically on the side of showing that Israel is not entirely without merit, something many anti-Israeli people are dead set on proving wrong, as if Israel is a boogieman or something. It's something Hezbollah says all the time on propaganda channel. Unlike you, I didn't have to go through biased media reports to get my information. I've seen terrorists in action with my own eyes.

Honestly, I don't get it. You're just looking for ways to take her words out of context. 

In any case, I'm done here. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about and just regurgitating talking points.

 

[lego 44,165]

You were born and raised in Lebanon but you left to Bulgaria as a baby, like you wrote in other thread.

I don't care where you were born, as a Lebanese Christian you were denying being an Arab and you're biased against other Arabs and Muslims in general. I should ask you about Sabra and Shatila, I guess you'll find justification for that too. 

Again with "what about other side?", when that's the only side that's always being talked about in American media and politics.

Sanders dared to call out Israel on disproportionate use of force and now this bitch has a problem with it.

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

You were born and raised in Lebanon but you left to Bulgaria as a baby, like you wrote in other thread.

I don't care where you were born, as a Lebanese Christian you were denying being an Arab and you're biased against other Arabs and Muslims in general. I should ask you about Sabra and Shatila, I guess you'll find justification for that too. 

Again with "what about other side?", wedn that's the only side that's always being talked about in American media and politics.

Sanders dared to call out Israel on disproportionate use of force and now this bitch has a problem with it.

 

...er... baby me left for like two weeks. It was for **** to calm down before our family went back to our blown up house.

What does my identity have to do with anything? What are you even saying? What bias? What? What? Oh my God.

Lmao ok your ad hominem is off the charts.  

Bye 

 

[lego 44,165]

21 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

 

If anyone has the right to talk about this stuff on GGD, it's me. Got it?

 

 

Arrogant as usual. Talk to yourself then and stay out. 

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I love how Hilary is running for the democratic party yet shes more republican than Trump while Trump whos a republican is more democratic than Hilary!

[Melech 9,900]

5 hours ago, LebaneseDude said:

...er... baby me left for like two weeks. It was for **** to calm down before our family went back to our blown up house.

What does my identity have to do with anything? What are you even saying? What bias? What? What? Oh my God.

Lmao ok your ad hominem is off the charts.  

Bye 

 

When Arguments are missing, the only way is going personal. So, you as a Lebanese person better shut up because you ain't know **** and some person from Northern Europe way knows better than you

 

[lego 44,165]

4 hours ago, Simon said:

When Arguments are missing, the only way is going personal. So, you as a Lebanese person better shut up because you ain't know **** and some person from Northern Europe way knows better than you

 

 

Why are you interfering with your passive-aggressive jabs? If you bothered to read, I said Max Blumenthal knows about the Clintons and the conflict (because of his background and his father) more than a random LG stan, even if he's from Middle East. So what? I know personally families from Lebanon who would disagree with him on almost everything. There are Palestinians on this site who would disagree, but don't bother to argue on these topics. If Max being son of Sidney Blumenthal doesn't mean anything, then random GGDer background means even less. That was the point. And I was talking about his post history, that's not personal attack, there's an obvious bias if he wants to talk about biases.