SamJ 8,008 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just now, Maryjaneholland said: taylor, katy and adele did sales wise but not culturally gaga was a phenomenon she is a MASSIVE household name because of all her activities and controversies. 90 year olds dont know who Taylor swift is Katy Perry is or Adele but they definitely know about the gaga phenomenon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just now, Enigma said: Adele had more sales and impact than her. And I think Beyonce had bigger tour gross. Other people also have more followers than her on social media sites. Which Beyonce tour are you referring to? The On the Run tour only grossed less than half of the 1989 world tour and her last solo tour made less too As much as Grammys are relatively meaningless Taylor also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,085 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just now, Bitter said: he could also have added the magic word worldwide (dominance) and that's basically what Taylor didn't do whatsoever (in comparison with gaga). I forgot this. But this is true. Taylor Swift has huge success mostly because of the US. And since the US has bigges sales with everything, it makes Taylor Swift seem bigger than she is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leecy 1,476 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Spock said: Taylor did it last year. She may have not had the hardcore fashion Gaga did, but she slayed album sales, single sales, tour grosses, social media, YouTube views, awards, the music industry, red carpets, the world, etc. Like, you could have replaced Taylor with Gaga in that OP and that's basically what she did ever since 1989 dropped Princess of being slayed by Adele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,085 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just now, hmm said: Which Beyonce tour are you referring to? The On the Run tour only grossed less than half of the 1989 world tour and her last solo tour made less too As much as Grammys are relatively meaningless Taylor also True, that is why I wasn't sure when I posted Beyonce. But she still did not have the social media followers, or the album sales or the impact that other had. She is also not nearly as big worldwide as Gaga was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Enigma said: Adele had more sales and impact than her. And I think Beyonce had bigger tour gross. Other people also have more followers than her on social media sites. Adele had more sales than her but it was expected. Taylor has been outselling herself and opening with 1M+ with every album ever since Speak Now. And 25 was kind of front loaded "impact" wise. It slayed everything for the first couple of months with Hello but nothing is happening now. Taylor grossed more than The Mrs Carter Show with lesser dates. Also 1989 was an event tour, from the surprise guests to the Apple Music deal. And Taylor was the most followed person on Instagram until Selena snatched it a couple of weeks ago who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,085 Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just now, Spock said: Adele had more sales than her but it was expected. Taylor has been outselling herself and opening with 1M+ with every album ever since Speak Now. And 25 was kind of front loaded "impact" wise. It slayed everything for the first couple of months with Hello but nothing is happening now. Taylor grossed more than The Mrs Carter Show with lesser dates. Also 1989 was an event tour, from the surprise guests to the Apple Music deal. And Taylor was the most followed person on Instagram until Selena snatched it a couple of weeks ago The point is having all of that impact at the same time. She is also no where near as big as Gaga was worldwide or as impactful either. Plus Gaga remain at the top of everything for like 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter 3,640 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Enigma said: I forgot this. But this is true. Taylor Swift has huge success mostly because of the US. And since the US has bigges sales with everything, it makes Taylor Swift seem bigger than she is. I live in a european country and during Gaga's peak everyone knew her songs and who she is unlike Taylor. The majority here don't even know her name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfSpain 8,278 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Spock said: Adele had more sales than her but it was expected. Taylor has been outselling herself and opening with 1M+ with every album ever since Speak Now. And 25 was kind of front loaded "impact" wise. It slayed everything for the first couple of months with Hello but nothing is happening now. Taylor grossed more than The Mrs Carter Show with lesser dates. Also 1989 was an event tour, from the surprise guests to the Apple Music deal. And Taylor was the most followed person on Instagram until Selena snatched it a couple of weeks ago She only had 8 European dates compared to more than 60 North American dates, she might have topped Gaga's peak in the US but she's still pretty local and nowhere as popular in Europe as Gaga was at her peak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiuga 1,952 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 People who argued Taylor did missed the fact that gaga did it On a global scale that's not seen since Madonna (or may be Britney). The media dominance and global cultural phenomenon she generated throughout those few years will be hard to top for at least another 10 years. She was POP itself during that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bitter said: he could also have added the magic word worldwide (dominance) and that's basically what Taylor didn't do whatsoever (in comparison with gaga's peak). nnn I can't at people still yelling loCAL!!!11! Shake It Off was top 10 in 37 countries, Blank Space in 28, Bad Blood in 21, the album top 10 almost everywhere, on top of all the iTunes and receipts full of slay that I'm too lazy to check now. The announcement stream broke streaming records worldwide and at the tour stop in Hyde Park she performed at an overcapacity of like 83k people + the sold out legs in Asia and Australia. I'm not saying she was bigger than Gaga but Taylor came pretty close who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 it's Britney bitch See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, Enigma said: The point is having all of that impact at the same time. She is also no where near as big as Gaga was worldwide or as impactful either. Plus Gaga remain at the top of everything for like 3 years. Then the point of this thread is stupid. Because you very well know the Gaga peak was the exception, not the rule, so this is like me demanding to know who is going to sell more than Adele while making a passive aggressive digs at other artists, which all of your threads manage to do 9 minutes ago, MonsterOfSpain said: She only had 8 European dates compared to more than 60 North American dates, she might have topped Gaga's peak in the US but she's still pretty local and nowhere as popular in Europe as Gaga was at her peak. Taylor didn't tour Europe because she didn't want to, but the demand was most obviously there. All of her dates were sold out and she performed the equivalent of a stadium capacity wise in London. The promo tour she did over here when the album came out was crazy too, so the calling her local is stale, worn and old who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter 3,640 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, Spock said: nnn I can't at people still yelling loCAL!!!11! Shake It Off was top 10 in 37 countries, Blank Space in 28, Bad Blood in 21, the album top 10 almost everywhere, on top of all the iTunes and receipts full of slay that I'm too lazy to check now. The announcement stream broke streaming records worldwide and at the tour stop in Hyde Park she performed at an overcapacity of like 83k people + the sold out legs in Asia and Australia. I'm not saying she was bigger than Gaga but Taylor came pretty close gawd. I wrote <<in comparison with Gaga's peak>>. The topic here is about that subject and not whether taylor is a local act or not. Gaga's peak worldwide was way bigger that Taylor's. She had a concecutive strike of 5-6 smash hits and she blew everyone away with her weird persona (the meat dress etc). Everyone was discussing for this phenomenon of an artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Bitter said: gawd. I wrote <<in comparison with Gaga's peak>>. The topic here is about that subject and not whether taylor is a local act or not. Gaga's peak worldwide was way bigger that Taylor's. She had a concecutive strike of 5-6 smash hits and she blew everyone away with her weird persona (the meat dress etc). Everyone was discussing for this phenomenon of an artist. Well, <<in comparison with Gaga's peak>> I said that Taylor came pretty close, which she did. I didn't derail the thread about whether or not taylor was local, the people who quoted me did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And again, I didn't say that she was bigger than Gaga because she wasn't. I said she came close who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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