AIPAC attendees slam Netanyahu’s racism when they think it’s Trump’s

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"...an experiment to test for consistency by attributing racist statements made by Israeli leaders to Trump and asking respondents what they thought of such language.

Most people I spoke with energetically condemned racist statements attributed to Trump. However, when I revealed the statements had actually been made by Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, respondents immediately excused, justified or supported the rhetoric they had just condemned.

One young woman said of Trump, “He’s terrible. He incites racist attitudes.” When asked, “What do you think about Trump’s comments comparing migrants to cancer?” she responded with disgust, “He’s awful. I hate Trump.”

But it was Israeli culture minister Miri Regev, not Trump, who compared African refugees to “a cancer,” a statement that 52 percent of Israeli Jews agreed with in one survey.

Regev later apologized, not to Africans but to cancer survivors for likening them to Black people.

I revealed to the young woman that Regev was the source of that statement and added that Netanyahu had recently called for surrounding all of Israel with walls “to protect ourselves from wild beasts.”

“I think you have to step back for a second,” the young woman snapped. “Israel is next to Syria, which is, as you know, going through a civil war. So when [Netanyahu] says ‘wild beasts’ he means jihadis who can potentially be coming into Israel. So I think you need to be very distinctive about that.”

The cognitive dissonance on display was startling as one anti-Trump liberal after another transformed into a defender of hate-speech uttered by Israelis, reflecting the alarming degree to which Arabs have been dehumanized in the minds of many of Israel’s North American supporters.

A woman from Montgomery, Maryland, stood outside the Verizon Center holding a sign that read, “Jews against Trump because we’ve seen this before.”

Though outraged by Trump’s anti-Muslim rhetoric and his pledge to build a wall along the US-Mexico border, she seemed to keep her distance from the larger protests against both Trump and Israel. It was soon clear why.

Asked if she was similarly disturbed by Netanyahu’s “wild beasts” comment, her tone changed and she became defensive.

“I didn’t hear the context,” she said.

“Is there a context where that comment would be okay?” I asked.

She insisted she couldn’t respond without hearing the statement in full and verifying it for herself.

Ironically, her response was not unlike Trump’s answer to a CNN interviewer last month when the billionaire was asked to repudiate the support of former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke.

Trump refused to disavow Duke or his white supremacy.

Trump later tried to blame his response on a “bad earpiece.”

A man waiting in line to get inside the stadium told me Trump is “psychotic” and accused him of pandering to bigots. But he rolled his eyes and walked away when confronted with Regev’s cancer analogy.

Another man standing in line said he was “afraid” of Trump and called the “wild beasts” comment “abusive and negative.”

As I tried to explain that Netanyahu was the source of the “wild beasts” comment, the man raised his voice, “What does Donald Trump have to do with Netanyahu?”

He went on to blurt out standard pro-Israel talking points.

“Buses were exploding in Israel. Buses exploded! There were bombs exploding,” he argued. “Walls went up to keep Palestinian terrorists out because they’re killing people.”

While Israel insists that its apartheid wall, declared illegal by the International Court of Justice in the Hague in 2004, is vital to keep suicide bombers out, even Netanyahu has confessed that the true purpose of the “separation fence” is to protect Israel’s Jewish majority from “demographic spillover” of Palestinians from the West Bank."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/netanyahu-israel-s-arabs-are-the-real-demographic-threat-1.109045

 

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[Voltaire 4,531]

Have some integrity. If you oppose a statement, oppose it no matter who says it.

"I still oppose the statement, and though I support __________ in their efforts with __________. I do not support that specific statement and hope ________ reconsiders this statement, stance, and worldview."

Easy.

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Big fail. They basically found only 5 people and 2 of them are pretty decent in their response after the big revelation is beeing made, one doesnt respond and another one is simply too much edited. Some people arent that stupid.

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What's the different between the "wild beast" comment on the Palestinians and between "Israelis are pigs" that some Arabic leaders, Palestinians and BDS members says?

Honestly, answer me this without articles, tweets, whatever, just answer a simple question.

[MonsterOfSpain 8,331]

7 minutes ago, River said:

What's the different between the "wild beast" comment on the Palestinians and between "Israelis are pigs" that some Palestinians and BDS members says?

Honestly, answer me this without articles, tweets, whatever, just answer a simple question.

Did any important politicians or personalities make such comments? 

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15 minutes ago, MonsterOfSpain said:

Did any important politicians or personalities make such comments? 

Does it matter if they are "important"? I don't think so.. and Netanyahu is important just like Renzi.. he's so tiny compare to Obama or Merkel..

Let's start with a BDS member Roger Water who put the star of david on a floating pig balloon during his concert, then Hammas and Fatah leaders that saying this on a daily basis, Iran leaders are not even saying the word "Israel" but zionist pigs, Hassan Nasrallah who said about Israel "the state of the grandsons of apes and pigs – the Zionist Jews"

Just go to BDS facebook page to see "Israelis are pigs" comments..

should I continue?

 

 

 

[lego 44,165]

9 hours ago, River said:

What's the different between the "wild beast" comment on the Palestinians and between "Israelis are pigs" that some Arabic leaders, Palestinians and BDS members says?

Honestly, answer me this without articles, tweets, whatever, just answer a simple question.

 

8 hours ago, River said:

Does it matter if they are "important"? I don't think so.. and Netanyahu is important just like Renzi.. he's so tiny compare to Obama or Merkel..

Let's start with a BDS member Roger Water who put the star of david on a floating pig balloon during his concert, then Hammas and Fatah leaders that saying this on a daily basis, Iran leaders are not even saying the word "Israel" but zionist pigs, Hassan Nasrallah who said about Israel "the state of the grandsons of apes and pigs – the Zionist Jews"

Just go to BDS facebook page to see "Israelis are pigs" comments..

should I continue?

 

 

 

 

 

Since you like to be passive aggressive and insult people by indirectly calling them names and pushing them to some imaginary group, let me tell you that someone seems to be leaning too much to the right - when mentioning Netanyahu and his racism, seems to hit the nerve nowadays.

Not only this is all offtopic, but it's also literally excusing one idiotic leader's racism because "others said offensive things too".

Roger Waters never called Israelis - pigs, he already explained the use of pig and all other symbols on concert + ADL statement (not that it matters because they're biased)

https://m.facebook.com/notes/roger-waters/an-open-letter-from-roger-waters/688037331210720/

 

If you want to talk about Iran or whatever, open your own thread.

Stay on topic. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

 

 

Since you like to be passive aggressive and insult people by indirectly calling them names and pushing them to some imaginary group, let me tell you that someone seems to be leaning too much to the right - when mentioning Netanyahu and his racism, seems to hit the nerve nowadays.

Not only this is all offtopic, but it's also literally excusing one idiotic leader's racism because "others said offensive things too".

Roger Waters never called Israelis - pigs, he already explained the use of pig and all other symbols on concert + ADL statement (not that it matters because they're biased)

https://m.facebook.com/notes/roger-waters/an-open-letter-from-roger-waters/688037331210720/

 

If you want to talk about Iran or whatever, open your own thread.

Stay on topic. 

 

 

ugh it's impossible to discuss with u.. when you don't like something (the truth) it's off topic..

I'm ON topic. like it or not..

Since you like to be passive aggressive and insult people by indirectly calling them names and pushing them to some imaginary group

Ah?????? first, I didn't insult anyone, so don't try to make me look bad and harm my reputation.. this is a cheap tactic. second, don't go personal. I can do it too you know, and I have many things to say.

- As long as the other side is insulting, you have nothing to complain about, I'm sorry. THIS IS THE TRUTH.

Deal with it.

Netanyahu is equal to the Palestinians leaders.

BDS is equal to Kahana members

This is the game sis, if you support one of those groups, you need to find an explanation for their actions too and also you need to clean your hands, they are full of blood.

So explain again, ANSWER THE QUESTION, what is the different?

And I said without articles and any bias or propaganda.

 

 

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, River said:

ugh it's impossible to discuss with u.. when you don't like something (the truth) it's off topic..

I'm ON topic. like it or not..

Since you like to be passive aggressive and insult people by indirectly calling them names and pushing them to some imaginary group

Ah?????? don't go personal. I can do it too you know, and I have many things to say.

- As long as the other side is insulting, you have nothing to complain about, I'm sorry. THIS IS THE TRUTH.

Deal with it.

Netanyahu is equal to the Palestinians leaders.

BDS is equal to Kahana members

This is the game sis, if you support one of those groups, you need to find an explanation for their actions too and also you need to clean your hands, they are full of blood.

So explain again, ANSWER THE QUESTION, what is the different?

And I said without articles and any bias or propaganda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You already went personal in other threads, without even quoting me. Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

BDS is equal to Kahane members?! I must have missed when BDS members made manual for burning homes, churches and synagogues? I must have missed when they burned children alive and stabbed baby pics at weddings?

I'm not playing any games with you and I'm not on any mother****ing trial.

Stay on topic or I'm reporting you.

Or actually I'll do it right now.

 

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8 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

You already went personal in other threads, without even quoting me. Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.

BDS is equal to Kahane members?! I must have missed when BDS members made manual for burning homes, churches and synagogues? I must have missed when they burned children alive and stabbed baby pics at weddings?

I'm not playing any games with you and I'm not on any mother****ing trial.

Stay on topic or I'm reporting you.

Or actually I'll do it right now.

 

When you get pushed to the wall, you start to report.

“to protect ourselves from wild beasts.” this is a part of the article, I decided to speak about this, so I'm on topic.

I can report you too. if this is the game that you want to play, go ahead.

Or you can finally make a correct debate and not do it as you like..

Clarification: I didn't insult anymore, anyone who says differently is lying.

 

SO FAR YOU ARE INSULTING EVERYONE WHO IS NOT THINKING LIKE YOU, WE CAN MAKE A LIST OF ALL THE USERS HERE THAT YOU INSULTED AND IT'S LONG.

 

So I guess this is how you want to run away from my questions?

Yes you are on trial!

 

ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

I will not stop, report me 10000 times, I will nto stop.

ANSWER IT.

 

You know the truth! you know that none of the sides are innocent, you know that, you know the both sides are insulting, using words.. BDS screams "GAS THE JEWS" and you replied on one topic.. so HERE IT IS!

DEAL WITH IT!!!

 

[Dolev 867]

The obsession 

[lego 44,165]

11 minutes ago, River said:

When you get pushed to the wall, you start to report.

“to protect ourselves from wild beasts.” this is a part of the article, I decided to speak about this, so I'm on topic.

I can report you too. if this is the game that you want to play, go ahead.

Or you can finally make a correct debate and not do it as you like..

Clarification: I didn't insult anymore, anyone who says differently is lying.

 

SO FAR YOU ARE INSULTING EVERYONE WHO IS NOT THINKING LIKE YOU, WE CAN MAKE A LIST OF ALL THE USERS HERE THAT YOU INSULTED AND IT'S LONG.

 

So I guess this is how you want to run away from my questions?

Yes you are on trial!

 

ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

I will not stop, report me 10000 times, I will nto stop.

ANSWER IT.

 

You know the truth! you know that none of the sides are innocent, you know that, you know the both sides are insulting, using words.. BDS screams "GAS THE JEWS" and you replied on one topic.. so HERE IT IS!

DEAL WITH IT!!!

 

 

 

You need help.

BDS doesn't have membership, anyone can support boycott and sanctions of Israel. ANYONE. They don't have any sort of violence in their program either.

The topic is stupidity of some AIPAC attendees. The topic is similarity between Trump's rhetoric and Netanyahu policies.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS OFF TOPIC.

You called me fascist before and I didn't report you. I should have.

You were fake with me all this time.

I'm not pushed to the wall, I'm annoyed by your fakeness and irrationality in this thread.

You said I have blood on my hands? What kind of sick and twisted thing to say? I never said anything as revolting to you nor any other pro-israeli on this site.

Bye. 

 

[River 127,312]

13 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

 

You need help.

BDS doesn't have membership, anyone can support boycott and sanctions of Israel. ANYONE. They don't have any sort of violence in their program either.

The topic is stupidity of some AIPAC attendees. The topic is similarity between Trump's rhetoric and Netanyahu policies.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS OFF TOPIC.

You called me fascist before and I didn't report you. I should have.

You were fake with me all this time.

I'm not pushed to the wall, I'm annoyed by your fakeness and irrationality in this thread.

You said I have blood on my hands? What kind of sick and twisted thing to say? I never said anything as revolting to you nor any other pro-israeli on this site.

Bye. 

 

No sis, you need help.

You are acting like the humanitarian, Palestinians savior, but you're not.

Did you go to a hospital to cheer Palestinians kids?

Did you do anything to help to gay Palestinians to find a shelter in Israel?

Did you protested inside Israel against a war?

Did you spent 6 months in jail as a protesting against the military and violence?

Probably not, but I did.

So if you call me fake after all I did, after all I had to scarify for peace, I'm sorry but yes, you are a bad person.

The line between the extreme left and the extreme right is very thin, so yes, both are fascist. you can stay away from them and become a person who believe in peace and co existing.

Yes you have a blood in your hand as long as you justify violence.

So you want to tell me that Netanyahu supporters are clean of blood? I don't think so.

But this is what you did now, you went OFF TOPIC just to avoid a simple question that was ON TOPIC.

You a trump are not that far.. what his doing to the Muslims, you are doing to Israel..

 

So yeah report me even for this.. I don't mind. I know who I am, everybody here will see who I am.

You can stop spreading hate all over the forum and start to build with me and others a better world.

Or you can continue on spreading hate but at least let people fight back without reporting them, insulting them, lying about their personality and their life.

It's your choice. you can write to me privately, you can open your mind and speak with me, we can work together if you want. like I said, your choice.

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I don't believe one word from you. You can write anything on forum. You can pretend to be anything you want to be.

One thing people who actually help don't do, they don't BRAG about it. That's what you've been doing so many times.

I never justified nor promoted violence, but you and your buddies have justified it so many times. Everytime "but what about Arab world".

You are spreading hate about everyone who doesn't kiss ass of Israeli government and call them "extreme fascist".

I'm not falling for "they are all equally to blame" because they are not. Oppressed is never the same as oppressor. One has upper hand, other one is under military law dependent on mercy of the occupier.

Yes violence is wrong, but then you'll oppose the non violent boycott too and make it illegal. 

 

I will never pm you again. I regret ever talking to you. 

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7 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

 

You need help.

BDS doesn't have membership, anyone can support boycott and sanctions of Israel. ANYONE. They don't have any sort of violence in their program either.

The topic is stupidity of some AIPAC attendees. The topic is similarity between Trump's rhetoric and Netanyahu policies.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS OFF TOPIC.

You called me fascist before and I didn't report you. I should have.

You were fake with me all this time.

I'm not pushed to the wall, I'm annoyed by your fakeness and irrationality in this thread.

You said I have blood on my hands? What kind of sick and twisted thing to say? I never said anything as revolting to you nor any other pro-israeli on this site.

Bye. 

 

Where is the stupidity? The only person in the video who arguably can fall into the cliche is the first one. And its funny how she is covered by another person who says that Saudi Arabia also build a wall in the region. Maybe building walls there can work. I dont know, but its a possibility.

Second person doesnt respond because it simply doesnt want to play this stupid game.

The third member offers some context and even admits that even in Israel are some bad people. What more do you want?

The fourth person is not even asked the question.

The fifth person wants some context. Thats all. And what does this person who filmed it make out of that person wanting a context. She is comparing her with Donald Trump not repudiate that member of KKK? Are you serious?

The idea behind the video isnt new, but the fact that it failed and yet some people pretend that it didnt, I think show us how anti-semitic some people are.