Is Gaga becoming too much of a downer?

[Jesse Pinkman 4,660]

4 minutes ago, LDR said:

A part of it feels pretentious to me.

The final straw was her crying to Bowie music on Snapchat. She just wants to be seen as this emotionally-distraught celebrity. It kind of bothers me as well.

Agreed. That really bothered me too. I just didn't understand the logic behind it. When I cry, I don't record it and put it on social media. It was too much, and I definitely think its apart of her victim complex.

[Supersonic 49,376]

Who are we tell somebody else how to deal with their struggles? For some people talking about their struggles is a healthy way to resolve problems and relieve stress, for some people distraction therapy works better. If you don't like the ways she's handling her own problems, it would be better for you to buzz off and just become a casual fan who occasionally listens to her music. Getting invested with somebody when you only like the idealized version of them in your head with all "flaws" corrected instead of actually liking them for what they really are seems kinda dumb.

[13VictorC 1,102]

For longevity in modern pop culture, vulnerability is an important element.

Gaga knows that by showing her struggles she can relate and connect more deeply to the audience. Unfortunately, it means that sometimes it can come off as showcasing her humanity.

[Schwerk 7,246]

I understand your point of view, but I think it's good she's letting it all out. She seems to do it in a much more healthy way then before.

I felt the same as you during the BTW ball. I felt she was lost. Her speeches some night broke my heart. And she seemed so disconnected from live when she wasn't on stage. Always stoned, exhausted, clinging to us fans and stuffed animals. You could tell something was off and I worried about her quite a bit back then. 

Now it's different to me. Yes she is dealing with a lot of demons, but not alone in the dark like she used to. 

When I see her now I feel she's in control and stronger than ever. Things of the past falling in to place, her coming to terms with it and letting it help her grow and help others on the way.

I love her sharing her feelings with us. It's very special and uncommon for an artist to be this open. It can become too much, for her and us, but it always works out because she's just too strong to be a downer.

[sipthistea 21,099]

I actually applaud her for this. This is a strong woman who is open and talks about her issues, and look at her, she is still the superstar we all love and appreciate. A magnificent artist. She is a human being, not a robot as some people see her. I guess real bravery comes when you're able to talk about things that affect you, and share them with others. It shows that you keep going no matter what's happening in your life. 

 

[andy232000 11,664]

45 minutes ago, LDR said:

A part of it feels pretentious to me.

The final straw was her crying to Bowie music on Snapchat. She just wants to be seen as this emotionally-distraught celebrity. It kind of bothers me as well.

you would be crying a damn river if she died and it was your job to honor her death

[Supersonic 49,376]

6 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

you would be crying a damn river if she died and it was your job to honor her death

I know I would not be able to perform under those conditions. I'd probably sit next to the piano trying to sing dope but sounding like a dying whale because I wouldn't be able to get a hold of myself.

[StrawberryBlond 14,881]

I get where you're coming from, but look at it this way: Now she's got it out, she might be better. I've got the feeling for this next album that she'll be a different person. This in between era has been a healing time for her. You may have thought she was fearless back in the day but that partly came from insecurity. She was trying to be strong when she didn't necessarily feel it. We realise that now. She admitted herself that she felt so depressed during her TFM era, which is ironic as that was her most successful. We didn't realise that she was keeping so much stuff quiet and tried to cover up her pain with a fearless attitude. This time, when she's fearless, I'll know it's from a genuine, happy place because she's got her hurt out and we know she's in a better place now. I'll take genuine fearless over fake fearless any day.

[Stephen 30,426]

The problem is you for some reason believe she isn't being genuine, which she is. I love when she talks about her hardships, it makes her MORE relatable to me. Every human being goes through hardships. The point is that she keeps moving forward, she keeps persevering. That's fearless to me.

@SharGaga And let me remind you she wasn't emotionless in 2011 either...

 

 

[mic 1,415]

I think it is Good she attempts to talk about her difficulties and struggles but I don't take it personally in anyway and never did. i don't even perceive it as an key social input, it's rather her own form of therapy with altruistic aura let's say.

which is good if it helps her, however I'm not sure about it because she's being so dramatic while she has mansions , beautiful loving boyfriend , complete and happy family and legendary career.

the only way I could understand why she is depressed is that maybe she kind of doesn't see any real goals anymore since she has perfect life already.

and she always liked to get emotional and talk **** when she was getting excited. Check out intro to MTN video for answer why.

 

[giskardsb 12,565]

1 hour ago, Metamorphosis said:

I agree that Gaga has a victim complex. I suffer from depression as well, but I've learned that I can't be a victim all of the time. You have to be strong sometimes and toughen up. She is her own worst enemy, and I hope she realizes it like I did. 

Gaga did that for years. Eventually she had to deal with the reality of what was causing her problems instead of masking it behind false bravado. What works for one person doesn't always work for another.  Gaga is emotional and empathic. Her brain can tell her one thing, while her heart feels another.  Eventually the heart will break through. 

[andy232000 11,664]

21 minutes ago, amenvodka said:

I know I would not be able to perform under those conditions. I'd probably sit next to the piano trying to sing dope but sounding like a dying whale because I wouldn't be able to get a hold of myself.

then why judge her over crying then

[Xoxo Adriana 15,040]

2 hours ago, Cool Machine said:

When did the Bowie video happen?

Her snapchat, she recorded herself crying when getting her red carpet makeup done

[Supersonic 49,376]

5 minutes ago, andy232000 said:

then why judge her over crying then

 I don't

[LaLuna 12,732]

2 hours ago, Logan said:

You don't just "move on" from emotional scarring. She's been through a lot in this industry, and a lot of the time her fans were to blame for pushing her too hard. The fact that she's a survivor and is putting that emotion on the table and using it to drive her passion for music is a beautiful thing to me. I think it's incredibly disrespectful to act like you're the victim because your favorite pop star is honest with her feelings.