Azealia Banks wants Iggy to commit Suicide

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

1 minute ago, Kayla said:

At the end of the day Iggy takes aspects of rap and uses it like a child trying on her mother's precious jewels. She doesn't understand the meaning behind them- she just thinks they're pretty and fun to flaunt. And when she puts that **** on, it's nothing to take seriously. 
 

Iggy is well educated in the Rap genre. She just thought that racism was dead when coming to America (I thought racism was dead until the random shootings of innocent black people which occurred into the mainstream media a few years ago) 

Some interviews from that top of my head that I recall Iggy discussing her knowledge of the rap/hiphop genre. People listen to her music and see her aesthetic and think "oh shes just playing dress up" when in reality she's very very well educated on the genre. Even more than azealia banks.

[Jase 13,401]

I don't actually know so could somebody please explain why Azealia hates Iggy so much?

 

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

6 minutes ago, GloZell Green said:

So you can't read or...  I'm sure multiple people love to read your friend's Tumblr posts. Have fun hun.

He doesn't have a Tumblr

awww so so sawwy azealia is focusing on Iggy than YOU GUYS (cant really blame her since Iggy is more interesting) go listen to her old music or something in the meantime while Iggy climbs the charts. k? bye xo

[Benji 20,113]

16 minutes ago, Kayla said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your criticism of Iggy. I liked her at first because I thought a few of her songs were bops and the album that is slipping my mind right now (the yellow cover with the cartoon version of her in boxing gear) seemed very promising. But seeing where her career has gone...I have lost respect and I don't take her seriously as an artist or a rapper. 

And I agree with expecting some **** talk, but rap doesn't have to be so focused on that, y'know? And I think if one rapper wants to fire back at another, they should do it lyrically. I mean, if we're talking about how rap just is, then that's what is has been for decades, right? Azealia keeps turning to social media to prove a point when she should be putting it in a song. 
Not to mention, there's plenty of rap out there that doesn't focus on the "battling" - no artist should be forced to partake in that side of the genre if they don't want to. 

At the end of the day Iggy takes aspects of rap and uses it like a child trying on her mother's precious jewels. She doesn't understand the meaning behind them- she just thinks they're pretty and fun to flaunt. And when she puts that **** on, it's nothing to take seriously. 
 

I actually like quite a few of Iggy's songs, I've listened to Team quite a bit since it came out... I really have no problem with Iggy, she's pretty vanilla. Rappers tweet sh*t about each other a lot but no one really seems to care when it isn't the pretty white girl from Australia. T.I. (Iggy's manager at the time) threatened to beat up Banks and warned her that people fall down the stairs all the time on Instagram but no one was here kicking up a fuss then? I find that more offensive than AB making a silly little comment telling someone to die.

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

1 minute ago, Jase said:

I don't actually know so could somebody please explain why Azealia hates Iggy so much?

 

Because Azealia was supposed to be the #1 rapper of the world (LOL) and she was exposed to being a fake/racist/homophobe/transphobe/rape apologist. She's ENVIOUS of Iggy's success and decided to use INNOCENT MURDERS of Black children to hate on Iggy  she jumped on the #BlackLivesMatter trend and as soon as her career didn't jump-start, she jumped ship and said "**** it" her hate for Iggy is rooted in the fact that Iggy became the #1 rapper like what many anticipated for azealia.

[inuborg 4,136]

 

7 minutes ago, Kayla said:

Some of you guys are being way too rude, and some of you took @StrawberryBlond's post out of context. 

No, @Benji she does not turn the TV off after 9pm out of fear of watching something that might offend someone. It's pretty clear that she simply does not want to support an artist like Azealia who has trashed multiple people over and over and over. Also, offensive comments being "normal" in rap doesn't mean everyone has to accept it. If Iggy was firing back left and right, fine. But what seems to be happening is Azealia keeps coming for people who don't really fire back at her- which isn't a rap battle as much as someone trying to pick a fight and failing at it. Not to mention, in rap the disses historically came in the lyrics or at actual rap battles- not from behind a computer screen....
And just because you've heard worse elsewhere doesn't mean that anything that isn't as bad as what you've heard in other places suddenly doesn't matter. 

Futhermore, StrawberryBlond is not racist, @inuborg. Surely there is some inherent unintentional racism that all white people are guilty of, but at the end of the day the point she was making is that she doesn't understand how a group of people could like someone who has generalized and said rude things about them. 
Also, you'll jump on Strawberry and call her "racist" and try to act like she's some kind of bad person for a thoughtfully-written post but then turn around and defend Azealia and get annoyed because you think people should just 'expect' AB's behavior by now.
Well you know what? Maybe you should expect StrawberryBlond to come into a topic about Azealia and give her opinion because it's just something she does. Maybe you should expect StrawberryBlond, with her indirect and outsider knowledge of race issues to perhaps say things that technically aren't super appropriate. Yes, when she referred to Azealia's black fans as a whole that was an inherently racist thing to do, but let's not sit here and try to pretend her intentions were racist in nature or that she herself is a deep-rooted racist. 

You're sitting here excusing Azealia's behavior because she said "my attitude is bitchy but you already knew that" in a song, then in the same thread you try to come for StrawberryBlond for offering an opinion about Azealia's problematic and actually racist behavior (see: previous posts with Azealia's tweets coming for Jewish people).
At least StrawberryBlond is trying to be considerate of others when/if she perhaps steps out of line when referring to race. Can't say the same for Banks.

Also, you said if Banks doesn't "tickle her humor" she should move on with her life- don't you think Azealia should move on with her life too? Because clearly she doesn't tickle Iggy's humor anymore. 

 

Lastly, regarding Iggy's tweet where she wished death on someone- that does not prove any case to help Azealia. Practically everyone in here who has referenced Iggy's tweet has stated that Iggy wishing death on people is JUST as wrong as Azealia doing it. Yet Azealia fans want to defend Banks and then expect everyone else to bash Iggy, as if Iggy making one tweet where she said she wished someone would die is the golden ticket to excuse every shitty thing AB has said.
(They were BOTH in the wrong!)

The difference between me and SB is that, she is the one implying that Azealia fans are bad people. And the black ones especially are crazy. (notice how she picked out black when Azealia has called out gays as well). Her outside knowledge/ignorance is so dense it's honestly frustrating. She has no clue on race issues, and yet she always act like she does, and it goes deeper than AB vs Iggy. And I do, and while continue to, find it strange at the people who every time Azealia says something off color (at least once a week it seems) they proclaim how disgusted they are and that she's a bad person and they anyone who likes her is also a bad person, when she's been in the limelight for 4 years now. Honestly how can anyone be surprised. Not much as excusing or expecting the behavior, its more like...different day, same ****. (As a die hard fan, that's how I feel) In the 2012 yeah I was taken a back at some of the things she said. But now its just like "oh Azealia, girl"l *Eyeroll* and that's it. Azealia does not dwell on the things she says as much as her dissenters do. She was over that comment probably before she hit send. 

Like I said, everything in this world is not for everyone. 

 

 

[Kayla 7,595]

5 minutes ago, Lance said:

Iggy is well educated in the Rap genre. She just thought that racism was dead when coming to America (I thought racism was dead until the random shootings of innocent black people which occurred into the mainstream media a few years ago) 

Some interviews from that top of my head that I recall Iggy discussing her knowledge of the rap/hiphop genre. People listen to her music and see her aesthetic and think "oh shes just playing dress up" when in reality she's very very well educated on the genre. Even more than azealia banks.

Thanks for including the videos.  I guess I spoke too soon regarding Iggy's knowledge of rap! I just didn't see it coming through in her music and then used her music to inappropriately judge her background knowledge. 

I think there's a lot more for Iggy to learn, specifically regarding the prominence and importance of rap/hip-hop in black culture, but I will admit now that she does know more than I previously gave her credit for. 

Still, I wish there was more talent coming through in her music. She doesn't hold a candle to other rap artists I reserve my respect for. 

[inuborg 4,136]

10 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Completely different. That's a joke, not aimed directly at the person involved. If she'd found this person's page and told them to go die, that would be different. Above all, it's an expression. Not the nicest, but just something we say without really meaning it seriously. It's not wishing death, it's just a turn of phrase. Saying it directly to someone who's expressed suicidal feelings, on the other hand...

I realise I am an outsider looking in, I never denied that (was the "know your place" really necessary, though? I didn't say that one race think the whole way, I said that black Azealia fans must think the one way because they must be aware of her previous incidents but have chosen to let them fly, just like all the other groups she's offended who remain her fans (do you think saying all her white fans think the same way is racist too?). It's their choice, but I just don't get it. And actually, you do go to practically every Iggy thread, insulting her, so you've got some nerve to lecture me when you're being hypocritical. When I see hate, I have to comment on it, I just don't like it to pass by, not commented on. By not responding to it, we are complicit in it. Saying I have no time for her is just a turn of phrase. It's just another way of saying "I don't like her."

But that doesn't mean that no one else has no right to be offended, just because you don't. The fact she's horrible to everyone makes her worse in my eyes, not better. It would justify her hate otherwise.

And I don't accept offensive things from others either. And yes, I'm a fan of comedy too, but comedy has different rules and some comedians are more adept at doing offensive comedy than others and do it in a way that's satirical. I'm not saying everything should be made milder for me, but for everyone.

That's what I like about her - she doesn't resort to lowering herself by dissing other rappers. So many of them do this and it makes me think less of them, to be honest, unless they had a really good reason for it. She's been nothing but classy during the whole Azealia fight, even though she could have cussed her out like crazy. She's even actively encouraged female rappers not to fight and that we're all in this together:

She's so sweet and genuine. Not every rapper is this nice and it makes a change.

You've got every right to make those criticisms. She's not a completely unproblematic rapper but I don't think she's as bad as people say. I think her flow is brilliant, I don't know why it doesn't get commented on more. If you really think she's the most untalented she is, you're lucky you haven't seen the real bottomfeeders of the rap industry. I say we should reserve our hate for those ones.

OMG GIRL

What Azealia said was a joke, not directly aimed at the person involved. So. What. Is. The Difference? 

Edit: Also, how many Iggy threads have I been in? One

[GloZell Green 11,723]

10 minutes ago, Lance said:

He doesn't have a Tumblr

awww so so sawwy azealia is focusing on Iggy than YOU GUYS (cant really blame her since Iggy is more interesting) go listen to her old music or something in the meantime while Iggy climbs the charts. k? bye xo

Iggy more interesting? I'm sure the same pop chorus - rap verse "hit" formula is so diverse for you guys. I don't even Stan her but you hypocrites say that Iggy was suddenly joking when she wishes death upon someone but when AB does it, it's totally immoral? You're a hypocrite. I hope the "charts" fill in the missing quality in Iggys music, The Big Big Beat will continue to slay every single song on Iggy's discography

[AddMeOnMYSPACE 2,056]

I feel like Azealia is those type of people who just want to watch the world burn. 

I still like her music though 

[Kayla 7,595]

3 minutes ago, Benji said:

I actually like quite a few of Iggy's songs, I've listened to Team quite a bit since it came out... I really have no problem with Iggy, she's pretty vanilla. Rappers tweet sh*t about each other a lot but no one really seems to care when it isn't the pretty white girl from Australia. T.I. (Iggy's manager at the time) threatened to beat up Banks and warned her that people feel down the stairs all the time on Instagram but no one was here kicking up a fuss then? I find that more offensive than AB making a silly little comment telling someone to die.

I still haven't heard Team.  I kinda grew out of Iggy, tbh. (and that's not shade towards Iggy fans or anything- her music just didn't have staying power for me)

I would guess people didn't pick up on T.I.'s comment as much because T.I. isn't someone we really pay attention to. I mean...how many people here would say that are a T.I. stan or even own one of his albums? He's not on our radar. 
That being said- not having a thread about it doesn't mean we're excusing it. It doesn't mean we think it's okay when Iggy or her team does it but want to bash Azealia when she says the same. However, I do think we should note that Azealia comes for Iggy pretty incessantly, and Iggy rarely bites back. I'm not saying that it's fine for Iggy to say shitty things, but I am trying to point out that the scales here are veerrrry tipped when we put AB's disses on one side and Iggy's on the other. 
Yes, what T.I. said was inherently more offensive. But Azealia's constant attempts at insulting Iggy has been excessive for months now. 

 

Just now, inuborg said:

OMG GIRL

What Azealia said was a joke, not directly aimed at the person involved. So. What. Is. The Difference? 

Yeah, I don't think we should say Iggy's tweet is fine and Azealia's comment was bad. They were both out of line, jokes or not. 

[inuborg 4,136]

2 minutes ago, AddMeOnMYSPACE said:

I feel like Azealia is those type of people who just want to watch the world burn. 

I still like her music though 

Pretty much, tbh. We are fire starters 

[Benji 20,113]

6 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

But that doesn't mean that no one else has no right to be offended, just because you don't. The fact she's horrible to everyone makes her worse in my eyes, not better. It would justify her hate otherwise.

And I don't accept offensive things from others either. And yes, I'm a fan of comedy too, but comedy has different rules and some comedians are more adept at doing offensive comedy than others and do it in a way that's satirical. I'm not saying everything should be made milder for me, but for everyone.

You implied you're better for being offended for other people? That's what I'm getting at. You even single out people who supposedly should be offended because you feel offended for them? I'm not saying people can't be offended but don't imply you're better than people here because you're offended for other people

You don't get to decide what people can and can't enjoy.

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

3 minutes ago, GloZell Green said:

Iggy more interesting? I'm sure the same pop chorus - rap verse "hit" formula is so diverse for you guys. I don't even Stan her but you hypocrites say that Iggy was suddenly joking when she wishes death upon someone but when AB does it, it's totally immoral? You're a hypocrite. I hope the "charts" fill in the missing quality in Iggys music, The Big Big Beat will continue to slay every single song on Iggy's discography

All I saw was the Mariah Carey gif at the bottom and that was ENOUGH to let me know NOT to read this post. Once your fave focuses on YOU and not IGGY, then we'll talk

 

[Kayla 7,595]

1 minute ago, Lance said:

All I saw was the Mariah Carey gif at the bottom and that was ENOUGH to let me know NOT to read this post. Once your fave focuses on YOU and not IGGY, then we'll talk

 

Why did you have to quote the post to tell them you didn't read it? Either read it and actually respond or ignore it and actually ignore it, imo.

(I do agree that Azealia needs to focus on herself and her own fans instead of Iggy, though...)