Members of JDL jailed for racist gang attack (after 7 years)

[Melech 9,900]

2 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

But they're not doing any of that so what are the options?

Depends what you call "starting the war", it's always Israel who decides WHO started it.

It were not Israel who stared war when Israel got independent. And Hamas is the one throwing bombs first. 

[lego 44,165]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

It were not Israel who stared war when Israel got independent. And Hamas is the one throwing bombs first. 

 

You mean when Palestinians exodus happened and more than 700.000 were expelled. There were many wars. The so called "truce", means when no mainstream media is reporting on daily killings and abuse of Palestinians. The homemade rockets in the field, where no one got hurt does not justify 2 dead children last week.

3 kidnapped Jews does not justify 2500 dead civilians. There is something called excessive use of force and collective punishment. Israel is just testing weapons on Gaza every few years, everything else is excuse to go to war.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, VampireHeart said:

 

You mean when Palestinians exodus happened and more than 700.000 were expelled. There were many wars. The so called "truce", means when no mainstream media is reporting on daily killings and abuse of Palestinians. The homemade rockets in the field, where no one got hurt does not justify 2 dead children last week.

3 kidnapped Jews does not justify 2500 dead civilians. There is something called excessive use of force and collective punishment. Israel is just testing weapons on Gaza every few years, everything else is excuse to go to war.

Oh c'mon. Then what about the million Jews who were force to leave the Middle East if we are getting out those numbers now. 

Fact is that Palestinians should stop teach their children to attack Jews. And then they surprise when Israel attacks back. That's all what they want. 

[lego 44,165]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

Oh c'mon. Then what about the million Jews who were force to leave the Middle East if we are getting out those numbers now. 

Fact is that Palestinians should stop teach their children to attack Jews. And then they surprise when Israel attacks back. That's all what they want. 

 

They should teach them to submit and obey under occupation and just give all their land and drown in the sea, this is basically what you're saying.

No any nation would do that.

The hate does not come from nowhere. They don't have basic human rights.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, VampireHeart said:

 

They should teach them to submit and obey under occupation and just give all their land and drown in the sea, this is basically what you're saying.

No any nation would do that.

The hate does not come from nowhere. They don't have basic human rights.

I'm just saying that they should stop attack, then I'm sure Israel stop the occupation. If the gonna continue to be violent, they will get an violent answer. 

 

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

I'm just saying that they should stop attack, then I'm sure Israel stop the occupation. If the gonna continue to be violent, they will get an violent answer. 

 

 

You know that's not true.

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

5 hours ago, River said:

Thankfully this terrorist group is outlawed in the USA and Israel.. I don't understand why it's not globally.. where is the UN or the EU? wtf is wrong with them?

*BDS are violent too, they are not innocent and just using the Palestinians for their own psychotic agenda*

So you people have issues with BDS, the only non violent approach to Israel ... Will you guys prefer military action be taken against Israel ? 

[Melech 9,900]

5 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said:

So you people have issues with BDS, the only non violent approach to Israel ... Will you guys prefer military action be taken against Israel ? 

They violently harass people. I wouldn't call them non-violent lol.

And never mind that it also hurts Palestinian people. When they closed the Soda stream factory somewhere in the west bank, the majority of palestinain working there got unemployed 

[River 127,312]

Just now, Cocaine Heart said:

So you people have issues with BDS, the only non violent approach to Israel ... Will you guys prefer military action be taken against Israel ? 

Issues? personal issues! I had to live hell because of them for a long time,I suffered from violent and vandalism and more things. only after France declared them as illegal I could finally get help from the police. which I got and now I have quiet from them.

they are fascistic movement!!!

There are already militant actions against Israel no (Hamas for example)? if you don't call it terror so you call a militant actions..

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

They violently harass people. I wouldn't call them non-violent lol.

And never mind that it also hurts Palestinian people. When they closed the Soda stream factory somewhere in the west bank, the majority of palestinain working there got unemployed 

You are using isolated incidents to justify and say the movement as a whole is violent. That's being just a bit ridiculous. Again this is the only non-violent approach to deal with Israel..

So according to you, Israel should just be left to slaughter Palestinians with no one saying or doing anything about it. 

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

8 minutes ago, River said:

Issues? personal issues! I had to live hell because of them for a long time,I suffered from violent and vandalism and more things. only after France declared them as illegal I could finally get help from the police. which I got and now I have quiet from them.

they are fascistic movement!!!

There are already militant actions against Israel no (Hamas for example)? if you don't call it terror so you call a militant actions..

See above. There are a bad few in every lot but you can't use again, isolated cases to justify why an entire movement should be shut down.

and I won't even bother with that point. 

[Melech 9,900]

5 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said:

You are using isolated incidents to justify and say the movement as a whole is violent. That's being just a bit ridiculous. Again this is the only non-violent approach to deal with Israel..

So according to you, Israel should just be left to slaughter Palestinians with no one saying or doing anything about it. 

Those incidents aren't isolated. Rather non-violent, non-harrasment incidents are isolated. 

I'm sure Israel won't bomb Gaza if they wouldn't attack Israel.

 

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

Those incidents aren't isolated. Rather non-violent, non-harrasment incidents are isolated. 

I'm sure Israel won't bomb Gaza if they wouldn't attack Israel.

 

That' an extremely ridiculous and inaccurate thing to say. Within my own country there are thousands of people who support BDS and there has never been any violent cases. There are literally thousands of jews here who support it.

You are providing a handful of cases to support what you are saying and that isn't isolated

Your second point  I won't even bother.

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

So the excuse for why Israel attacks Gaza is because of Hamas ... What is the excuse for the occupation of East Jerusalem ? What is the excuse for the thousands of Palestinian homes being demolished and the expansion of the settlements  in the  West Bank ?

Is it because God gave it to them ? Or Blood covenant with Abraham  ? Or What about Saudi Arabia ? 

[Melech 9,900]

20 minutes ago, Cocaine Heart said:

That' an extremely ridiculous and inaccurate thing to say. Within my own country there are thousands of people who support BDS and there has never been any violent cases. There are literally thousands of jews here who support it.

You are providing a handful of cases to support what you are saying and that isn't isolated

Your second point  I won't even bother.

I doubt there are thousands Jews who support that and it's not even important. 

Ofc you won't see when Jews are harassed since u love BDS