Tennessee teen shoots family for waking him up for school

[Seeka 12,372]

8 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

 

Alright, so tell me again why there is a DIRECT correlation to higher gun control regulation in America and gun violence.

There is absolutely no evidence that shows gun regulation curbs gun violence, and many states and cities that have the most gun control have the highest rates of gun violence. Take Chicago or D.C. for example, and also look at Texas with some of the lowest gun violence rates and the fewest gun regs.

The problem is with mental health and inner-city violent culture. Not guns. End of story.

But we're the only country with the amount of gun violence we have. This is not a worldwide thing. Other countries do allow gun ownership and such.

But we're the only country who has the amount of gun violence we have. If we don't include the middle east countries which are at war with currently.

[JustinTrudeau 2,419]

So many questions  

However, when I was in high school, I was always told I'm not getting enough sleep cause teenagers need 8/9 hours of sleep (even though I was perfectly fine and never had the desire to shoot anymore in the morning... but I live in Canada, so that might be a factor). I found it annoying because it was hard to sleep when you got so many assignments, part-time jobs, friends, family, and social pressure to deal with constantly  Let's not deny that we tell ourselves that we need to go to bed, but continue to browse the Internet for another hour or so.

So yea, guns and mental health matters, but student lives are becoming so crazy these days, I don't know how you teenagers survive. Every thing is a factor, so let's not blame only one factor, cause every situation is always an ugly mess. 

[TerrenceV2 2,001]

murica

[PartySick 172,545]

7 minutes ago, Seeka said:

But we're the only country with the amount of gun violence we have. This is not a worldwide thing. Other countries do allow gun ownership and such.

But we're the only country who has the amount of gun violence we have. If we don't include the middle east countries which are at war with currently.

The whole issue is a bunch of smaller issues. The availability of guns, the ignorance of mental illness, and the "American way".

Other countries pass stricter gun laws and don't have mass shootings for decades while if someone in power even mentions wanting to have a discussion on it you suddenly get an influx of gun related deaths (suicides and homicides).

In order to fully tackle this problem we can't just blame guns anymore, regardless of how pointless their existence is. We have to change the way society thinks and reacts to certain things, tighten our belts when it comes to who is allowed to legally own a gun, and make sure to spread as much information as possible.

[MJHolland 12,725]

5 minutes ago, Seeka said:

But we're the only country with the amount of gun violence we have. This is not a worldwide thing. Other countries do allow gun ownership and such.

But we're the only country who has the amount of gun violence we have. If we don't include the middle east countries which are at war with currently.

What's your point? If you look at the data, gun ownership =/= gun violence, and gun control does not equal lower gun violence either. That is purely just date. It cannot not be argued with; it's just statistical fact.

So when people say gun control is the answer to acts of violence like this, I just have no clue what they're talking about.

This attack is a tragedy, but let's not blame it on an inanimate object. It's clearly a mental health case.

5 hours ago, LePetitMonstr said:

 America needs a reality check ASAP.

 

5 hours ago, Son of ARTPOP said:

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU, AMERICA?  And this happens when a legislation is being passed to allow children to posses weapons.  

My desire to visit this country some day is dying each day, even for a holiday. 

 

5 hours ago, OBEY said:

Thank god i don't live in this country.

If i would i would move out ASAP.

 

5 hours ago, Janet said:

America.

Check yourself b4 you wreck yourself.

Get your sh.t together babe.

Sincerely, 

The rest of the world

 

5 hours ago, BrothaGaga said:

COME ON, AMERICA.

Are you guys serious? A European woman chopped a baby's head off earlier this week and was swinging it around in the streets of the city.

Did you see one f*cking member of this site say "LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH THE EUROPEANS?! Come on!"

I'll answer that for you -- you didn't.

No American said "Holy sh*t Paris, you need to get your sh*t together" after the attacks last year. Offer you condolences in this tragic situation and move on with your bratty lives. Like Jesus Christ, grow up and be respectful.

[JustinTrudeau 2,419]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

What's your point? If you look at the data, gun ownership =/= gun violence, and gun control does not equal lower gun violence either. That is purely just date. It cannot not be argued with; it's just statistical fact.

So when people say gun control is the answer to acts of violence like this, I just have no clue what they're talking about.

This attack is a tragedy, but let's not blame it on an inanimate object. It's clearly a mental health case.

 

 

 

 

Are you guys serious? A European woman chopped a baby's head off earlier this week and was swinging it around in the streets of the city.

Did you see one f*cking member of this site say "LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH THE EUROPEANS?! Come on!"

I'll answer that for you -- you didn't.

No American said "Holy sh*t Paris, you need to get your sh*t together" after the attacks last year. Offer you condolences in this tragic situation and move on with your bratty lives. Like Jesus Christ, grow up and be respectful.

Okay but what happened in Paris was a terrorist attack from outsiders, and you can't equate that with an American teen kid who shot his own family one weekday morning. 

[Seeka 12,372]

Just now, MJHolland said:

What's your point? If you look at the data, gun ownership =/= gun violence, and gun control does not equal lower gun violence either. That is purely just date. It cannot not be argued with; it's just statistical fact.

So when people say gun control is the answer to acts of violence like this, I just have no clue what they're talking about.

This attack is a tragedy, but let's not blame it on an inanimate object. It's clearly a mental health case.

 

 

 

 

Are you guys serious? A European woman chopped a baby's head off earlier this week and was swinging it around in the streets of the city.

Did you see one f*cking member of this site say "LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH THE EUROPEANS?! Come on!"

I'll answer that for you -- you didn't.

No American said "Holy sh*t Paris, you need to get your sh*t together" after the attacks last year. Offer you condolences in this tragic situation and move on with your bratty lives. Like Jesus Christ, grow up and be respectful.

I would like to remind you, that the Paris terror attacks were of no fault of the French. That was an attack by ISIS, or Daesh as they should be called. And I duly hope you enjoy getting ran over the bus you just threw yourself under with that stupid comment.

As for my opinion, I'd like to point you towards the quote that PartySick said above.

Also, you just seem to be a gun nut, so I'm just going to ignore you since you seem obsessed with guns.

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 minute ago, ZarinStar said:

Okay but what happened in Paris was a terrorist attack from outsiders, and you can't equate that with an American teen kid who shot his own family one weekday morning. 

To the families it affected, it's equally tragic. And both cases deal with mental illness. Terrorists have been seriously brainwashed.

 

Just now, Seeka said:

I would like to remind you, that the Paris terror attacks were of no fault of the French. That was an attack by ISIS, or Daesh as they should be called. And I duly hope you enjoy getting ran over the bus you just threw yourself under with that stupid comment.

As for my opinion, I'd like to point you towards the quote that PartySick said above.

Also, you just seem to be a gun nut, so I'm just going to ignore you since you seem obsessed with guns.

And a kid shooting his family is somehow entirely America's fault?! If the French people had more spending on internal security and monitoring the attack never would have happened and could have been stopped buddy?!

I'm not a gun nut. Grandfather never owned a gun, father never owned a gun, and I'll never own a gun. I'm only a nut for common sense.

When a tragedy happens, you offer your condolences. When a mentally ill person acts violent, you don't blame inanimate objects. Common. Freaking. Sense. Ignore me all you want sweetie, see if I care if you chose to be ignorant.

[OBEY 57,109]

4 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

What's your point? If you look at the data, gun ownership =/= gun violence, and gun control does not equal lower gun violence either. That is purely just date. It cannot not be argued with; it's just statistical fact.

So when people say gun control is the answer to acts of violence like this, I just have no clue what they're talking about.

This attack is a tragedy, but let's not blame it on an inanimate object. It's clearly a mental health case.

 

 

 

 

Are you guys serious? A European woman chopped a baby's head off earlier this week and was swinging it around in the streets of the city.

Did you see one f*cking member of this site say "LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH THE EUROPEANS?! Come on!"

I'll answer that for you -- you didn't.

No American said "Holy sh*t Paris, you need to get your sh*t together" after the attacks last year. Offer you condolences in this tragic situation and move on with your bratty lives. Like Jesus Christ, grow up and be respectful.

The USA should stop proclaming itself as the "best country in the world", the "center of the universe" and the "land of freedom" and then maybe people would be less critical about them and the stuff that happens in the country.

As for me, guns are a part of why i wouldnt live there but there's also a lot of other reasons.

Oh and in paris that was a terrorist attack + i remember americans being like "omg paris needs to have gun to defend themselves what is goin on!!!!!!"

[Lion Heart 15,041]

Wow  

[lego 44,165]

2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

What's your point? If you look at the data, gun ownership =/= gun violence, and gun control does not equal lower gun violence either. That is purely just date. It cannot not be argued with; it's just statistical fact.

So when people say gun control is the answer to acts of violence like this, I just have no clue what they're talking about.

This attack is a tragedy, but let's not blame it on an inanimate object. It's clearly a mental health case.

 

 

 

 

Are you guys serious? A European woman chopped a baby's head off earlier this week and was swinging it around in the streets of the city.

Did you see one f*cking member of this site say "LOL WTF IS WRONG WITH THE EUROPEANS?! Come on!"

I'll answer that for you -- you didn't.

No American said "Holy sh*t Paris, you need to get your sh*t together" after the attacks last year. Offer you condolences in this tragic situation and move on with your bratty lives. Like Jesus Christ, grow up and be respectful.

 

Uzbekistan is not Europe, although she doesn't represent her country's mentality, there is no such 'epidemy'. Terror attacks don't happen every day either. Every day/week mass shootings and 'accidental killings' by guns became unfortunately American trademark and it does have to do with obsessive gun culture. It's not only "mentally ill", normal people stress out, get into fight/snap and deal with their problems with - guns. 

There were (rarely) some school shootings in Europe but some got influenced by Columbine for example.

And yes there were many disrespectful comments to French, 'you need more guns!' 

[MJHolland 12,725]

2 minutes ago, OBEY said:

The USA should stop proclaming itself as the "best country in the world", the "center of the universe" and the "land of freedom" and then maybe people would be less critical about them and the stuff that happens in the country.

As for me, guns are a part of why i wouldnt live there but there's also a lot of other reasons.

Oh and in paris that was a terrorist attack + i remember americans being like "omg paris needs to have gun to defend themselves what is goin on!!!!!!"

Um, I know many Americans having been an American myself, and I've never met another American who thinks we're the best nation on Earth. We're the most powerful, not the best. Not even Trump thinks we are the best anymore buddy.

As for the reaction in this country to the attack, almost everybody brought up the point of having guns for more security over compassion. Nobody said "well f*ck Paris, does them right" like some of you are in this thread about this devastating situation.

3 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

Uzbekistan is not Europe, although she doesn't represent her country's mentality, there is no such 'epidemy'. Terror attacks don't happen every day either. Every day/week mass shootings and 'accidental killings' by guns became unfortunately American trademark and it does have to do with obsessive gun culture. It's not only "mentally ill", normal people stress out, get into fight/snap and deal with their problems with - guns. 

There were (rarely) some school shootings in Europe but some got influenced by Columbine for example.

And yes there were many disrespectful comments to French, 'you need more guns!' 

That's not even disrespectful buddy! No American said "yeah f*ck Paris that's what they get, the French are so messed up they need to check themselves!!!11!!11111".

Europeans on this site, from what I have seen, exhibit neither grace nor class when it comes to devastating new stories coming out of America. You all say "serves them right" or something to the effect and it needs to stop.

[RAMROD 117,092]

I mean, I know most people dislike waking up in the morning but this is too much. 

[lego 44,165]

11 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Um, I know many Americans having been an American myself, and I've never met another American who thinks we're the best nation on Earth. We're the most powerful, not the best. Not even Trump thinks we are the best anymore buddy.

As for the reaction in this country to the attack, almost everybody brought up the point of having guns for more security over compassion. Nobody said "well f*ck Paris, does them right" like some of you are in this thread about this devastating situation.

That's not even disrespectful buddy! No American said "yeah f*ck Paris that's what they get, the French are so messed up they need to check themselves!!!11!!11111".

Europeans on this site, from what I have seen, exhibit neither grace nor class when it comes to devastating new stories coming out of America. You all say "serves them right" or something to the effect and it needs to stop.

 

I don't think they mean it in that way. They probably think something needs to change regarding guns/gun control. 

[PoshLife 17,019]

5 hours ago, MJHolland said:

If we took every single gun magically out of America, you'd still have incidents like this with knives and the other infinite amount of weapons you can make from everyday objects, including homemade pipe bombs like in California.

If we magically took away every mentally ill person in America, you wouldn't have senseless acts of violence like this.

So tell me again how it's "BOTH! ".

You're wrong on both points. Yes, there would be attacks with other weapons, but a lot of those weapons aren't nearly as deadly as guns. The same day that 26 people died in the Newtown, Connecticut shooting, there was a mass stabbing in China by a deranged man... and every single victim lived and recovered fully. Because he didn't have a gun.

To your second point, not every person who commits a horrible crime is mentally ill. Some are on drugs, some are crimes of passion, others are just evil. The rush to assume mental illness after every single shooting is Republicans' way of distracting from the issue of there being way too many guns in this country.

And that's how it's BOTH!