Fusari is asking Gaga to name her rapist

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11 hours ago, SKANK said:

 

The Madonna and Sky Ferreira comparisons are false equivalences, and their actions in no way explain or excuse Gaga's actions.

In the blink of an eye Gaga went from profiting off of collaborations with rapists to making a profit, accepting accolades, and giving lectures as an anti-rape activist. That demands an explanation.

I'm comparing what they all share in common - associating with an accused rapist, but being anti-rape themselves, whatever biases and blinders they have keeping in a state of contradiction. Madonna technically profited from Rebel Heart did, she not? What I'm saying is that I would never deny Madonna nor anyone elses experiences because of a lapse in judgement. Regardless, Gaga is lending her voice and power to an important issue rather than a negative one. At the end of the day, the song is helping people. We can hand-wring over her choice of friends, yes, but to doubt her and call her a liar because of it is what I have an issue with.

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

This!

 

sorry im no expert in her history so im sorry if i sound ignorant...

 

but everything i heard suggested sexual harrassment. She never specifies how far it went and whether or not it was outright rape

 

u can be sexually abused without it going as far as rape. In fact what she said about not recognizing what happened till years later might suggest it was a more subtle type of abuse that she may have ignored at first

 

maybe she was raped, but we dont know that

 

GAGA: The song Swine is about RAPE.

HOWARD STERN: You keep implying you were RAPED by record producer. Is that what you are saying?

GAGA: ... happy times! (meaning she doesn't want to go in detail).

Then she goes on to say she was 19, he was twice her age, "I thought this is what adults do", he claimed they were dating.

She can't get more clear than that. 

It wasn't "subtle type of abuse", wtf does that mean? She didn't realize until years later because she was young naive Catholic girl, and she blamed herself like many rape victims do. 

 

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7 hours ago, Medoner Cortez said:

I know this is none of our business but was gaga actually raped as in forced against her will or was it more of a kesha situation?

I'm guessing we'll never know, but seeing as gaga has spoken more openly about it lately

Rape means without consent. Kesha was raped. Gaga was raped. 

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12 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

GAGA: The song Swine is about RAPE.

HOWARD STERN: You keep implying you were RAPED by record producer. Is that what you are saying?

GAGA: ... happy times! (meaning she doesn't want to go in detail).

Then she goes on to say she was 19, he was twice her age, "I thought this is what adults do", he claimed they were dating.

She can't get more clear than that. 

It wasn't "subtle type of abuse", wtf does that mean? She didn't realize until years later because she was young naive Catholic girl, and she blamed herself like many rape victims do. 

 

She didnt specify tho. U cant assume that because she didnt answer that he was right

 

Also things can cause inspiration for a song but that doesnt mean the song is 100% exactly how something happened

 

She could have felt she was raped and written a song about rape even if it didnt go that far. Im just saying u cant know for sure

 

I can tell u from experience that more subtle forms of abuse can feel so degrading in time that in principal it may feel like u were raped even if it didnt actually go that far

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23 minutes ago, Economy said:

This!

 

sorry im no expert in her history so im sorry if i sound ignorant...

 

but everything i heard suggested sexual harrassment. She never specifies how far it went and whether or not it was outright rape

 

u can be sexually abused without it going as far as rape. In fact what she said about not recognizing what happened till years later might suggest it was a more subtle type of abuse that she may have ignored at first

 

maybe she was raped, but we dont know that

That wasnt my point though. You are right that she never said the words, "i was raped" but its heavily implied that she was or experienced something extremely close to rape. My point was that in that interview Gaga never said it isnt rocket science to figure out who her rapist is. She said we could easily figure out who the producer(s) who sexually harrassed her are.

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13 minutes ago, Katie14 said:

That wasnt my point though. You are right that she never said the words, "i was raped" but its heavily implied that she was or experienced something extremely close to rape. My point was that in that interview Gaga never said it isnt rocket science to figure out who her rapist is. She said we could easily figure out who the producer(s) who sexually harrassed her are.

 

8 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

 

I guess she was after all

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/03/02/lady-gaga-survivor-til-it-happens-to-you-oscars-academy-awards-grandmother/81201252/

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1 hour ago, VampireHeart said:

 

It makes sense, I think he revealed this to media when he lost against Wendy Starland and he or his lawyer blacked out the most important parts.

I found it here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3000821/Lady-Gaga-s-bad-romance-Svengali-ex-boyfriend-Rob-Fusari-exposed-blames-prot-g-e-s-highly-inflammatory-testimony-7million-court-ruling-against-him.html#article-3000821

I understood it was his lawyer's claims her testimony was inflammatory, not judge's?  

also this part "...to portray mr Fusari as (___________) - I'd guess "sexual predator"?  

Yeah I think this document is Rob's lawyer's argument for her testimony not to be included, but I think if I remember the judged ruled in his favor, or no? That's why we have the blanks? But yeah I agree the other blanks probably say stuff along the same lines of him being a predator, rapist, abuser, etc.

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29 minutes ago, rpggal said:

Yeah I think this document is Rob's lawyer's argument for her testimony not to be included, but I think if I remember the judged ruled in his favor, or no? That's why we have the blanks? But yeah I agree the other blanks probably say stuff along the same lines of him being a predator, rapist, abuser, etc.

Rob lost the case. Now, he is suing her again, because he says her statements about the rape and abuse were what caused the court to decide against him in this case. 

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5 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

She only hinted at him in one 2013 interview, how should she stop?? Are you saying she should stop saying she was raped so she wouldn't hurt his feelings? 

you should read my previous comments

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56 minutes ago, Economy said:

 

I guess she was after all

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/03/02/lady-gaga-survivor-til-it-happens-to-you-oscars-academy-awards-grandmother/81201252/

You can also listen to the podcast from The Hollywood Reporter or watch the interview with The New York Times, since you are interested in this subject. You probably missed those for sure, if you missed the Howard Stern Interview from way back. 

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17 minutes ago, JbGaga said:

you should read my previous comments

 

I read them and it still doesn't make sense. She should stop doing what?

What is "semi-accusing him"? You make it sound like she's hinting at Fusari in every damn interview. 

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27 minutes ago, Whispering said:

You can also listen to the podcast from The Hollywood Reporter or watch the interview with The New York Times, since you are interested in this subject. You probably missed those for sure, if you missed the Howard Stern Interview from way back. 

I missed a lot cuz although Gaga has always been my fav artist, i was never really obssessed with her like many ppl here especially between 2013-2015 i went thru a phase where i kinda was a casual fan at best

 

theres a lot of stuff i didnt see

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7 minutes ago, Economy said:

I missed a lot cuz although Gaga has always been my fav artist, i was never really obssessed with her like many ppl here especially between 2013-2015 i went thru a phase where i kinda was a casual fan at best

 

theres a lot of stuff i didnt see

I wasn't saying anything bad about you missing that time, just giving you some other interviews to listen to that are more recent. 

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19 hours ago, Benji said:

I'm one of those people that also has my doubts about it being Rob. Gaga was around A LOT of producers earlier on in her career who she now has no contact with. Just because we're aware Rob and her don't get on, does not mean that he is the one.

Her description and time frame outlining the problem clearly point to Rob, without actually naming him directly.  There are other music producers involved sure, and the atmosphere in that industry with new young talent is pretty sexually based.  If you look at the majority of the new female singers, they all have sexually themed acts. 

Doesn't prove anything, but my experience that where there is a lot of money floating around, and young women, its pretty much a given that some one some where is looking to get something....

A lot of it is coercion if not outright blackmale on the the part of producers. But a lot of women will use any means to attain their goals, and when things don't go their way.................

The information on the web that I have read leads me to believe that Gaga's situation had her believing that she had to perform backstage as well as on stage to get ahead...and that simply isn't true.