Whispering 18,865 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, boysboysboys said: I gave this a lot of thought and I think it's best for Gaga to think of this circumstance as one of the consequences of her actions. The thing about her is the more she's warned not to exaggerate, the more she'll throw herself to it. Let's wait. Right now her IG is full of this, but once the topic has changed and if there is no response from the Haus then this means there was an intervention. Exaggerate? Gaga was raped. There are no "consequences" for Gaga sharing her story, other than the process of healing and reaching out to others who have been through the same as she has. Intervention? What the hell are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 hours ago, VampireHeart said: She said she was 19 at the time and he was double older than her, he said everyone that they were dating and if we know her history who she's worked with it's easy to connect the dots. I'll find the interview if you want to hear it. When she said that she was talking about sexual harassment, not rape specifically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Ru 994 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 One more "I need attention" moment? Did this b!tch a$$ loser a$$hole's b!tch a$$ fingers really just type that?? No matter who you are, no matter who you're talking about, you DO NOT accuse a woman of coming forward about a rape of doing it for attention. Period. I always thought this guy was a waste of sperm, now I know for sure. Hold Mama back, children. Hold me back. Im blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 This imbecile is fixated with Gaga. He seems really on edge and unpredictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Ru 994 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 It's nice to see that most people on here are supportive of Gaga, Kesha, and others rather than criticizing, judging, and scrutinizing them as soon as they dare say they were raped. However, it's sad to see that some of you are more concerned with making Gaga out to be a lying slut who couldn't possibly have been raped because she has made poor choices in who she collaborated with. Get a grip and stop contributing to the problem. It's not about believing everything Gaga says without question. It's about being supportive and not being a misogynistic jerk whose words and actions contribute to a culture that makes women afraid of coming forward for fear of being harshly judged and called a liar. Im blonde, I'm skinny, I'm rich, and I'm a little bit of a bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,221 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, SKANK said: I'm referring specifically to the line in the Marry The Night music video. When I look back on my life It's not that I don't want to see things exactly as they happened It's just that I prefer to remember them in an artistic way And truthfully the lie of it all is much more honest because I invented it Clinical psychology tells us arguably that trauma is the ultimate killer Memories are not recycled like atoms and particles in quantum physics They can be lost forever It's sort of like my past is an unfinished painting And as the artist of that painting I must fill in all the ugly holes And make it beautiful again It's not that I've been dishonest It's just that I loathe reality I think it's clear to anyone who has followed her career since day one that Gaga isn't exactly truthful about her life experiences, that she is more concerned about crafting public perception then about being authentic. However, if I am wrong, it's up to the fans who accept without hesitation that Gaga was taken advantage of by a producer to explain why it is okay for her to then collaborate with Terry Richardson. To release a book, film a documentary and music video, with a man who uses his position of power to allegedly abuse models in the exact same way Fusari allegedly used his power as a producer to take advantage of her, that needs an explanation. To go from dancing on the AMA stage with a know rapist, to holding the hands of rape victims a year later at the Oscars, that kind of hypocrisy from someone who claims to be an activist demands explanation. One could interpret many things about that passage of Marry the Night MV. She could be alluding to using the bad things that happened to her in her life and putting them into her lyrics, painting them into a prettier, more acceptable picture. Think of the lyrics to Monster. As for your latter point: why did Madonna collaborate with a convicted rapist like Mike Tyson when she herself was a victim of rape? Why does Sky Ferreira say it's not her place to deny experiences of the models accusing Terry, but then call Terry a good friend in the same breath? I certainly disagree with any absolving, but some people have blindspots, and want to believe the good in some people, don't want to believe their judgement of character is incorrect, or that their sweet friend is capable of such a terrible thing, because hey, they know them. Humans are full of contradictions, they are emotionally involved. No one is saying it is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Wait everyone I think we should think about this for a second. Everyone is assuming its him. The evidence she has given says its him. This person is now somewhat accused of doing something that he may or not have done but she wont say for sure its him. What if its not? Is it fair to leave it up in the air like that? Idk ALTHOUGH I wouldent want her to re live it again and its not realy fair to make her do that. Maybe she could say its not him if he didn't do it? Its also totally possible hes baiting her into a law suit or something. But Im not accusing her of seeking attention or trying to discredit her at all. He should not do that. Idk I dont like these kinds of things. Its such a sensitive thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushedlemonice 1,289 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, freebit said: One could interpret many things about that passage of Marry the Night MV. She could be alluding to using the bad things that happened to her in her life and putting them into her lyrics, painting them into a prettier, more acceptable picture. Think of the lyrics to Monster. I was just watching this interview the other day, and if you skip to 2:20, Gaga says that the video is autobiographical and that there's nothing in it that's untrue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, freebit said: One could interpret many things about that passage of Marry the Night MV. She could be alluding to using the bad things that happened to her in her life and putting them into her lyrics, painting them into a prettier, more acceptable picture. Think of the lyrics to Monster. As for your latter point: why did Madonna collaborate with a convicted rapist like Mike Tyson when she herself was a victim of rape? Why does Sky Ferreira say it's not her place to deny experiences of the models accusing Terry, but then call Terry a good friend in the same breath? I certainly disagree with any absolving, but some people have blindspots, and want to believe the good in some people, don't want to believe their judgement of character is incorrect, or that their sweet friend is capable of such a terrible thing, because hey, they know them. Humans are full of contradictions, they are emotionally involved. No one is saying it is right. The Madonna and Sky Ferreira comparisons are false equivalences, and their actions in no way explain or excuse Gaga's actions. In the blink of an eye Gaga went from profiting off of collaborations with rapists to making a profit, accepting accolades, and giving lectures as an anti-rape activist. That demands an explanation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, JbGaga said: Wait everyone I think we should think about this for a second. Everyone is assuming its him. The evidence she has given says its him. This person is now somewhat accused of doing something that he may or not have done but she wont say for sure its him. What if its not? Is it fair to leave it up in the air like that? Idk ALTHOUGH I wouldent want her to re live it again and its not realy fair to make her do that. Maybe she could say its not him if he didn't do it? Its also totally possible hes baiting her into a law suit or something. But Im not accusing her of seeking attention or trying to discredit her at all. He should not do that. Idk I dont like these kinds of things. Its such a sensitive thing. She not only would have to relive it, but there would be no way to "prove it". What would be the point? Just so he could sue her again and stay in her life for more years than he already has with the lawsuits. Gaga is at a place now where she has been and is dealing with the rape and she has a support system in place. She doesn't need to invite the rapist or any other toxic people into her life. Also, like someone stated above, Rob is angry, bitter, desperate and unstable. People like that can be unpredictable. I want Gaga to stay completely away from him. I'm glad that she has bodyguards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Whispering said: She not only would have to relive it, but there would be no way to "prove it". What would be the point? Just so he could sue her again and stay in her life for more years than he already has with the lawsuits. Gaga is at a place now where she has been and is dealing with the rape and she has a support system in place. She doesn't need to invite the rapist or any other toxic people into her life. Also, like someone stated above, Rob is angry, bitter, desperate and unstable. People like that can be unpredictable. I want Gaga to stay completely away from him. I'm glad that she has bodyguards! I know but Im just thinking about it from both sides. I think its only fair. If someone was going around accusing me of rape but not saying who for sure I would want some denouncement or clarification. Im not saying he has good or bad intent and I said the other part of his statement was unnecessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister 9,907 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I hope that Gaga has this nutter on block, in every way that he can possibly reach out to her. He just won't stop. The future's uncertain and the end is always near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagechrist 2,853 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 He's disgusting. Keep using Gaga as the only way to get some attention dahling feeling so hot tamale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, JbGaga said: I know but Im just thinking about it from both sides. I think its only fair. If someone was going around accusing me of rape but not saying who for sure I would want some denouncement or clarification. Im not saying he has good or bad intent and I said the other part of his statement was unnecessary She knows he will take her to court...again. He's also unstable. It's better if she continues on her path to healing and completely ignores him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Whispering said: She knows he will take her to court...again. He's also unstable. It's better if she continues on her path to healing and completely ignores him! again I get it, butl then maybe she should stop semi accusing him if she dosent want to bring him into it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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