Azealia threatens Iggy's life

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2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

So, because a few people think it's funny, that makes it funny and acceptable? Nice. Let's see how you react if the same thing is ever done to you and if you'd believe this theory then.

where did i say it was acceptable, sweetie? and, out of curiosity, what makes it unacceptable? (please respond in 1000 words or less)

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i swear azel banks doesnt have a song since 2012

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Azealia please 

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MESS

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I like 212

[inuborg 4,135]

nvm

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On March 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM, StrawberryBlond said:

I've heard and seen white racism. And it's disgusting. Some middle easterns saying all white women are whores (the culture clash is a big reason why there are attacks on white women by men from these stricter backgrounds), whites being chased out their hometowns because of immigrants moving in and making restricted areas just for them where whites are expressly told not to go near (got a cousin who lives in an area surrounded by this type of thing), in some parts of Africa, whites are being attacked by blacks for no other reason than being white and I heard about an awful case where a black man raped a white woman while he called her racist names and the (white) police didn't label it a hate crime. Wake up - racism is racism and everyone can endure it. And it's dangerous to say otherwise. If we turn a blind eye to it, it'll get worse.

Shystie is British, from London, so she is in the select group I'm talking about who don't need to change their accents because American and certain British ones sound badass. Very few others do. Plus, she's black, so she has a black accent on top of that, so she doesn't need to change a thing. I'm Scottish - rapping in my natural tongue sounds monotone and ridiculous. Put an accent on it and I actually sound halfway credible. I don't get why more people don't realise this. Face it - we don't want to hear a rapper who doesn't have an American or English accent. That's why rappers outside these regions have to change: for acceptance. We don't know the full background story of Iggy's - it's highly likely her label tried to make her do pop to see if that would sell (when you're a white rapper, it's good to have a backup plan and as a white girl, she'll be socialised into pop). Sorry, no, you won't work the "we're attracted to people that look similar to us" argument. Almost all my favourite rap albums are from blacks. Until Iggy came along, the only white rappers I listened to were Eminem and Plan B, who are critically acclaimed. When it comes to music, I don't care what anyone looks like or what their background is because as a music reviewer, I just listen to what's put in front of me, whether I want to or not. If I like something, it's because I genuinely like it. I never thought I'd like Iggy, i didn't have high hopes for her. But she genuinely surprised me, especially with tracks like Fancy, Black Widow, Goddess, We In This Bitch and Heavy Crown. Trust me, any shade Iggy has made towards Azealia has been classy shade. She's been holding out the olive branch from the beginning. There may be the stereotype of the "bad black woman" but there's also the stereotype of the "ignorant, racist white bitch." It works both ways. Azealia only brought down Macklemore because she hates white rappers. I don't care for the song either and I agree with her point about how he didn't have the guts to mention Eminem, but we know why she's really doing this - just looking for an excuse to hate on whites. Again.

Azealia's music is ok to me at best. Her Fantasea mixtape was her best and even then, it was only slightly better than average. Then she turned bad and put me right off her. Her album...I can't even understand what she's saying most of the time and it's just back-to-back random stuff. 212 is one of her few songs that I can actually understand. I need music to have lyrics that are clear cut and with clear diction. A lot of rap can rely on lots of those random lyrics seemingly plucked out of nowhere but I can rarely handle it. I don't get why people call her music so danceable either. Her music is so alternative, of course it won't sell. It's not because people are racist. And of course, her attitude turns everyone off.

What you describe as white racism is just one off examples in which white people were given the short end of the stick. Systemic racism is 9 times out of 10 perpetuated towards people of color, and a white person doesn't always have the capacity to understand that. I assume you've lived in Europe your entire life, and might not understand the complexities between blacks and whites. For generations black people were slaves, and in the grand scheme of history African Americans have just gained their freedom here. Racism is still a problem against them. The system in which white people oppress blacks can't be overturned in such a short amount of time. Generational racism lives on. 

I don't understand how you can use critical acclaim as a defense for your fav Lana and the white rappers you enjoy, but fail to mention the fact that Azealia is far more acclaimed than Iggy. The majority of critics, Lady Gaga and even your avi Lana admit that Azealia is talented, and you are one of the only critics I've heard call Azealia mediocre. I believe that Iggy knows full well that she benefits from being a white woman. The "ignorant racist white woman" stereotype might exist, but the angry black woman stereotype is far more pervasive in society. I also don't understand how you can call out a black woman, Beyoncé for not writing her own songs, while praising a white woman, Iggy when she does the same, and with music of lesser value. It just reeks of white mediocrity winning over black excellence.

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12 hours ago, AntiPotCrusader said:

What you describe as white racism is just one off examples in which white people were given the short end of the stick. Systemic racism is 9 times out of 10 perpetuated towards people of color, and a white person doesn't always have the capacity to understand that. I assume you've lived in Europe your entire life, and might not understand the complexities between blacks and whites. For generations black people were slaves, and in the grand scheme of history African Americans have just gained their freedom here. Racism is still a problem against them. The system in which white people oppress blacks can't be overturned in such a short amount of time. Generational racism lives on. 

I don't understand how you can use critical acclaim as a defense for your fav Lana and the white rappers you enjoy, but fail to mention the fact that Azealia is far more acclaimed than Iggy. The majority of critics, Lady Gaga and even your avi Lana admit that Azealia is talented, and you are one of the only critics I've heard call Azealia mediocre. I believe that Iggy knows full well that she benefits from being a white woman. The "ignorant racist white woman" stereotype might exist, but the angry black woman stereotype is far more pervasive in society. I also don't understand how you can call out a black woman, Beyoncé for not writing her own songs, while praising a white woman, Iggy when she does the same, and with music of lesser value. It just reeks of white mediocrity winning over black excellence.

It's funny because this is exactly how racism against minorities was written off back in the day. It was just an isolated incident, not a big deal. And that's precisely why it flourished and became so extreme. When you tell a group of people that their opinions don't matter and dismiss their offence, this is what's going to happen. I don't want a second wave of widespread racism to come and that's why I challenge it whenever I see it, especially when it's towards whites, make people realise that it's not acceptable no matter who it's aimed towards and that they're making a terrible double standard. This incidents are not isolated, they're growing and spreading. I don't know what world you're living in, but this idea of "white women are whores" is widespread. Are you male? Because if so, maybe that's the reason why you don't seem to see this problem. But it causes me huge offence and it puts white women under threat immensely due to us being seen more as objects to be taken advantage of because we all apparently enjoy it. Oh, trust me, I understand the systematic racism perfectly. It's just you assume I don't because I'm white (again, we're assumed to be ignorant just because we take the information and make a different conclusion or solution to it). Yes, I have lived in the UK all my life, and here, we deal with racism so much differently from the US. I don't know why they can't take a leaf out of our book. What I can't get over is how American blacks are so happy to tie themselves to stereotypes because in my country, it's a big no no to assume things about people based on their colour. I remember being so thrown when Azealia was crying on the radio talking about how "all blacks are holding on to is hip hop and rap." It's like, girl, way to put down your race! The black community has a lot more culture and heritage than that and not all blacks even like that type of music! A lot of American blacks also seem to think they speak for the entire race when they talk about their people and don't always realise that the situation for blacks is different overseas. A good example of this is their claims that slavery erased their family history and they have no idea of their African origins. Well, in the UK, a lot of blacks know exactly where they originated and a lot of them still have family over there that they even visit. American blacks forget that it's not the same story everywhere. This is a big bone of contention for me - they think they're being so forward thinking when they don't realise they're being ignorant to other cultures in other countries.

I only brought up critical acclaim because I wanted to make the point that the only white rappers I'd ever listened to were ones that are considered credible choices. I mean, if I said "I love rap, I love Vanilla Ice!" I could totally understand why you'd call me ignorant. But I have only listened to the best of the best whites and I know how to separate the bad from the good. I know Azealia is far more acclaimed than Iggy, but that doesn't mean I have to find her good personally. Music is all about how it makes you feel and how you connect to it and for the most part, her music just doesn't connect to me. I'm not a sheep - I don't like something because I'm "supposed to," I like what I like regardless of what the music industry thinks. I didn't say that Azealia has no talent - I think she has, but she doesn't necessarily make good music with it. It's sad when talented people don't apply themselves. You wouldn't believe how many people I say this about in the industry - they have the talent, but the music is meh. The best tracks I've heard from Azealia are 212, Esta Noche, Heavy Metal and Reflective, BBD, Ice Princess and Yung Rapunxel. But other than that, I'm not overly enthralled. For all she goes on about social issues and politics in her interviews, it doesn't come out in her music, it's just all bragging from beginning to end, but because it's put down in a house beat, apparently it's of a higher class than the output of commercial rappers. Sorry, I just see right through all that hipster nonsense.

I've stated before (albeit controversially) about how I actually think white rappers are at a disadvantage in the business. The likes of Vanilla Ice and all-round jokes about white rappers have made it very hard for them to be taken seriously. They're called a wigga for listening to rap or rapping, so they decide to stop doing it. It takes very few to have the confidence to actually pursue a career in it when they know they'll be open to ridicule before they've even opened their mouths. We're not as bad towards white rappers in the UK, but in the US, they're so close-minded and judgemental. I've said a few times that Iggy would be hailed as amazing if she were black, guaranteed. I have seen so many sub-par black rappers given great reviews by white media and their songs sell, yet white rappers get put down for being just the same or better. And whites are also put down if their rap is light hearted or doesn't deal with social issues, yet there are many light hearted black rappers who don't deal with social issues and they're beloved. It's so unfair, but point out the blatant double standard and you're called an ignorant racist. Black people rule this genre. You'll notice that even Hispanics and Asians can't break into the scene on a world scale either. It's one of the areas where blacks have top representation, praise and accolades and yet, they spout untruths about whites taking over just because a white rapper gets a #1 very occasionally. If whites were taking over, the rap community would be full of whites, there'd be white rappers all over the charts, they'd be getting signed left, right and centre. None of that is true, so how are whites taking over? This is a fantastic piece of reality that Iggy gave in an interview - she talks about the facts regarding white rappers getting signed, the myths of the industry and even about how she's ordered to dumb down her music by her label when she actually wants to say more:

 

I'm critical of Beyonce because she's actually lied about songs that she hasn't written (including stealing one) and taking samples without permission. Iggy doesn't do that. Beyonce's personality and ego also grate on me a lot, so I criticise that. I think she's another one who's talented but her music can be just ok, not as amazing as her fans make out. I dislike how we're supposed to like black artists or we're called racist. It's never racist when it's in reverse. Music is music, I don't care what the race is. "It just reeks of white mediocrity winning over black excellence" - do you realise how arrogant that sounds? What, are blacks always superior when it comes to music? Race is incidental to me. I don't give allowances on race or think your race makes you superior, especially when it comes to music. Plus, if Beyonce really does get a lot of stuff ghost written for her by whites, then wouldn't I technically like it more, according to you? Is it so hard to believe that some music connects and other stuff doesn't? Judging the quality of music by taking race into account is stupid. As I've said before, this isn't an issue in the UK, so that's why we take offence when we're accused of racism when it comes to our music. We don't play that sh*t here. That's an American issue.

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Every one stop picking on Strawberry, and your jokes aren't funny people, only the immature will think they're funny... and I'm being mature right now, lucky I'm not sending death threats too 

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1 hour ago, Majora said:

Every one stop picking on Strawberry, and your jokes aren't funny people, only the immature will think they're funny... and I'm being mature right now, lucky I'm not sending death threats too 

No one is picking her, she's just making one very big asinine case. 

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15 hours ago, AntiPotCrusader said:

What you describe as white racism is just one off examples in which white people were given the short end of the stick. Systemic racism is 9 times out of 10 perpetuated towards people of color, and a white person doesn't always have the capacity to understand that. I assume you've lived in Europe your entire life, and might not understand the complexities between blacks and whites. For generations black people were slaves, and in the grand scheme of history African Americans have just gained their freedom here. Racism is still a problem against them. The system in which white people oppress blacks can't be overturned in such a short amount of time. Generational racism lives on. 

I don't understand how you can use critical acclaim as a defense for your fav Lana and the white rappers you enjoy, but fail to mention the fact that Azealia is far more acclaimed than Iggy. The majority of critics, Lady Gaga and even your avi Lana admit that Azealia is talented, and you are one of the only critics I've heard call Azealia mediocre. I believe that Iggy knows full well that she benefits from being a white woman. The "ignorant racist white woman" stereotype might exist, but the angry black woman stereotype is far more pervasive in society. I also don't understand how you can call out a black woman, Beyoncé for not writing her own songs, while praising a white woman, Iggy when she does the same, and with music of lesser value. It just reeks of white mediocrity winning over black excellence.

Spill at that tea sis! 

 

 

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22 hours ago, inuborg said:

No one is picking her, she's just making one very big asinine case. 

You only think it's asinine because you refuse to see outside your narrow point of view. Nothing's going to change unless we take our generally accepted views and question them. I sometimes see issues that are lying right under our noses but for various reasons, no one wants to state the obvious. And nothing changes if we silence some people speaking out about them.

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6 hours ago, boobtank said:

 

 

Tbh