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There are so many perspectives on the matter of what an artist should do with the career that i won't even bother trying to argue.

I will say this, though. While Beyoncé keeps strutting her hips like she's done for the past I don't even know how many years... Gaga is spreading her wings, regardless of what's trending, and absolutely slaying everything she endeavors. 

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Chromatislaps
16 hours ago, Son of Venus said:

they're right. she should've pulled a Miley. Twerking while singing the NA would've been so cool :neyde:

 

:lmao: I liiive :lmao: 

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This is kind of unfair in my opinion, they're comparing Bey jumping around and dancing to Gaga singing the National Anthem

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Whispering
4 hours ago, SKANK said:

 

Lady Gaga is at her best when she disregards what is appropriate for the "time and place," that was my entire point.

Personally I would have preferred an infamous Rosanne Barr style National Anthem performance, as opposed to her falling short of Whitney Huston's traditional performance of the National Anthem.

Your "personal preference" would have ruined her. And Gaga didn't fall short of Whitney's version...what she did was sing live, which Whitney didn't do. 

By the way, there is a delay, so if Gaga would have pulled a Rosanne Barr, the network would have pulled the performance and would have shown the dress rehearsal.  

Gaga wasn't about to do anything as ignorant and disrespectful as that anyway. She's smart enough to know there is a time and place for everything. 

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SpadesToStart
19 hours ago, boysboysboys said:

Not exactly saying she should strip for the National Anthem, but the fact that she's not even in the Halftime Show when every other musician in that stadium was there is telling. She's giving off a different vibe and it's off. 

Gaga essentially needs to be a legend before they will let her do the super bowl, because plain and simple, she's too gay.  Even if she had kept up her TFM/BTW level success and persona through 2015, they wouldn't give it to her because "gay" is something that straight, white, male football fans are terrified of and despise.  Madonna's gay, but she got to do it because she's Madonna.  "She's a legend, so we can overlook the gay" is their thinking.  Ergo, Gaga needs to prove herself and work twice as hard as people like Bruno Mars or Katy Perry before the NFL will consider her. 

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LebaneseDude

How can any legitimate Lady Gaga fan agree with this article? It's utter nonsense. It's clearly written by some Beyonce fan who is trying to shade Gaga while maintaining an apologetic slightly complimentary tone here and there as if to garner some empathy and establish neutrality. I don't blame them for trying, considering Gaga effortlessly stole the spotlight from her.

Considering what happened to Gaga, the move to Jazz was probably one of the most brilliant career savers ever done. Then there's the horrendous implication that jazz is some outdated form of singing too. I doubt the writer thinks that way but using that argument is hilarious. It's true that the album was mostly covers but how's that 'living in the past'? That's rehashing the past to present it to the present, much like Gaga's 'antics' were mostly rehashed from previous artists.

Perhaps Gaga just wanted to do her own thing? Why is she expected to always be doing something crazy?

Then the writer makes another implication that choosing to appear on AHS was some calculated act. Did they expect her to just drop a pop album as soon as Cheek to Cheek was over? Gaga didn't release a pop album because she wanted to rebuild her image, not because she was scared of the likes of Adele... and ...Rihanna? Seriously? Did he really just use Rihanna as an example? Releasing a pop album would have been disastrous. Compare the hype for her album a few months ago to now. It has only been increasing. 

Furthermore, it's clear that she wanted to do the album properly without rushing it. Look who she's working with now. 

Did we call Adele "living in the past rolling on her own bed of money" because she took her time to release her music? Was it because she was not doing anything at all? Gaga's between albums now and she's literally everywhere. Why is there a correlation between the state of her album and what she's currently doing?

She's not living in the past. She's looking to the future, and not thinking solely about the present. She's using NOW to make her FUTURE better. How's that a bad idea? Didn't mommy dole out that piece of advice to you when growing up?

Honestly, if you agree with this article you need to have a seat and think before you talk, especially since we have no idea what the album is going to be like.

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Kanye West is a ghost writer now for The New York Times?

lol delusional~

The future's uncertain and the end is always near.
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LebaneseDude
45 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Your "personal preference" would have ruined her. And Gaga didn't fall short of Whitney's version...what she did was sing live, which Whitney didn't do. 

By the way, there is a delay, so if Gaga would have pulled a Rosanne Barr, the network would have pulled the performance and would have shown the dress rehearsal.  

Gaga wasn't about to do anything as ignorant and disrespectful as that anyway. She's smart enough to know there is a time and place for everything. 

Don't bother arguing with someone who is implying that it is better if Gaga had butchered her career in order to remain "kewl" in their eyes. 

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13VictorC

Most people seem to be misunderstanding the article. :koons:

They said Gaga sped up her career by five decades, and Gaga has now become a classic singer from the olden times.

Beyoncé is 5 years older than Gaga, yet Gaga is 5 decades more mature than Beyoncé. That sounds like praise to me.

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5 hours ago, Pity Party said:

Oh god, please stop. If she did something ridiculous you would all be dragging her, as would the media. It would have completely destroyed all of the work cleaning her image she's done the past year an a half. Also selling the album at Starbucks was logical considering the target audience of Jazz... It must be so depressing constantly wanting an "old Gaga" back. Wait for LG5 and if it fails then she has a problem. As of now, she is showcasing solely her talent, while girls like Beyonce are releasing awful singles and doing the same thing they have always been doing.

 

Don't tell me or any other user here to "stop." You are on a forum, the function of this site is to share opinions. If you aren't interested in what other people have to say then start a blog.

 

As for your misinterpretations of my opinions...

If she had done something ridiculous I would have loved it. My opinions are not formed by public perception or by media criticism.

The target audience for basic collections of standards is the Starbucks customer, you are correct. That is why I would rather not see a Lady Gaga album sold at Starbucks. I love jazz, I hate redundant uninspired jazz, which is what Cheek To Cheek is.

I don't want old Gaga back, I want her progress and explore her unique artistic perspective more deeply. I feel that what she is doing now is not progressive.

In my opinion she has been showcasing her talent since day one, it's unfortunate that the public, and evidently people like yourself, were unable to see past the wigs and leotards.

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aaronyoji

how i see it, is shes been using the past year and a half to show she can transcend genres, decades, and fads of our quick and fleeting pop culture. that to me is not a negative, it shows she is not bound to making what everyone else does. do you think taylor swift or beyonce could pull off her "aged" tributes to old music legends? no. the answer is no they sure as hell can't. 

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MelbHawker
5 minutes ago, SKANK said:

The target audience for basic collections of standards is the Starbucks customer, you are correct.

:toofunny: I'm really not sure if y'all are being serious with this statement. 

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