Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, MJHolland said: Fine. They want to spread radial Islam, and they're doing that through force and killing non-converts. You all need to look up the definition of a caliphate... The issue lies in the fact that most Muslims don't agree with ISIS so they can't represent all Muslims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: "I WISH the Islamist terrorists JUST wanted to keep the middle east Arab." is inhumane and disgusting. But also incorrect, since they're not pan-Arab group. I said this because you cited neonazism is Europe was equal to ISIS. Queen of taking things out of context of here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: The issue lies in the fact that most Muslims don't agree with ISIS so they can't represent all Muslims. It's funny, because I doubt you the other two in this thread would stick up for Christians when the West B. Baptist Church lol. All you need to do is open a single one of their threads here and read all the gays attacking American Christians. This alone proves the tendency for liberals to impulsively apologize for Islamic terrorism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/03/intl_world/amanpour-didier-francois/ FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Wft are people even arguing here?.... I don't understand. Its pretty obvious what was going here if these are the facts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, MJHolland said: It's funny, because I doubt you the other two in this thread would stick up for Christians when the West B. Baptist Church lol. All you need to do is open a single one of their threads here and read all the gays attacking American Christians. This alone proves the tendency for liberals to impulsively apologize for Islamic terrorism. I think that this issue just creates more division. Instead of combating the actual issue of terror we have people arguing over which groups commit terrorism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, MJHolland said: I said this because you cited neonazism is Europe was equal to ISIS. Queen of taking things out of context of here... I didn't even say that. And look who's talking.lol You are bothered because their terrorism should just be located in ME which is inhumane. If you're gonna ignore or leave out half of the points, don't bother to quote me. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: His point is that it's not shocking this potential dangerous individual is 'most likely' a Muslim. It's not discriminatory to observe that nearly all terrorists in the West call themselves Muslims or have this radical Islamic ideology. This isn't saying all Muslims are terrorists, it's saying most terrorists observed call themselves Muslims. This harms Muslim communities. There's been plenty of non-Muslim terrorists in the USA though. I think the point the person was trying to make was to why mentioning the Qur'an in the first place. Does this mean every person who carries it will be put under a spotlight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Just now, ZacharyMark said: There's been plenty of non-Muslim terrorists in the USA though. I think the point the person was trying to make was to why mentioning the Qur'an in the first place. Does this mean every person who carries it will be put under a spotlight? No, but if this person is armed and carrying a Qu'ran and 2015 was plagued by terrorism in France committed by radical Islamists, then it's painfully obvious what was going on. Let's not fool ourselves. I'm def. not the stereotyping one and would never make blanket statements about Muslims, but when it's painfully obvious? Let's get real here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: No, but if this person is armed and carrying a Qu'ran and 2015 was plagued by terrorism in France committed by radical Islamists, then it's painfully obvious what was going on. Let's not fool ourselves. I'm def. not the stereotyping one and would never make blanket statements about Muslims, but when it's painfully obvious? Let's get real here... Maybe they should wait to get all the facts and details before, like his name, authorities' statements about motives etc. It's like when that guy from 4chan killed people in some school, it was mentioned that he asked his victims their religion/if they believed in God before he shot them and everyone was saying he's a muslim terrorist and then he wasn't. There was that patriot who tried to set up a bomb in Georgia, he also carried a copy of Qur'an. There was that famous ISIS guy on social media, articles were written about him, who turned out to be some Jewish guy. Then there was attack by muslim, who turned out to be mentally ill, but the terrorism headlines already did their job. I'm not saying none of those is the case here, but we could wait a bit before we know all the facts. And people are sarcastically saying "shocker", as if armed attacks are only committed by muslims. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, VampireHeart said: Maybe they should wait to get all the facts and details before, like his name, authorities' statements about motives etc. It's like when that guy from 4chan killed people in some school, it was mentioned that he asked his victims their religion/if they believed in God before he shot them and everyone was saying he's a muslim terrorist and then he wasn't. There was that patriot who tried to set up a bomb in Georgia, he also carried a copy of Qur'an. There was that famous ISIS guy on social media, articles were written about him, who turned out to be some Jewish guy. Then there was attack by muslim, who turned out to be mentally ill, but the terrorism headlines already did their job. I'm not saying none of those is the case here, but we could wait a bit before we know all the facts. And people are sarcastically saying "shocker", as if armed attacks are only committed by muslims. I get what you're saying and completely agree. However, I see people acting as if this conclusion isn't one that will automatically pop up in people's minds. France was attacked several times by Islamic radical groups in 2015. The connection is so easy in a case like this one. It's like when there's a school shooting here in the US. Most people imagine the shooter will be a white male in their 20's lol, and that's even without any other evidence. In this case there was a Qu'ran which makes people connect it with Islam, and since there was ammunition people jump to radical Islamic terrorist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 @Morphine Prince can you add this to OP? A police source told the AFP news agency that a preliminary investigation did not point to terrorism, and that the man had said he was carrying the weapons because he feared for his safety. Papers found on the suspect indicated that he lived in Paris, the source added. He reportedly co-manages a brassiere in the French capital. "For me, it's a mistake," said a member of the bar staff. Police also arrested a woman, believing her to be the man's girlfriend, but later released her when they realised they had got the wrong woman, French media reported. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35431086 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, VampireHeart said: @Morphine Prince can you add this to OP? A police source told the AFP news agency that a preliminary investigation did not point to terrorism, and that the man had said he was carrying the weapons because he feared for his safety. Papers found on the suspect indicated that he lived in Paris, the source added. He reportedly co-manages a brassiere in the French capital. "For me, it's a mistake," said a member of the bar staff. Police also arrested a woman, believing her to be the man's girlfriend, but later released her when they realised they had got the wrong woman, French media reported. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35431086 Mess lmao. Yeah, I'll add it to the OP. he was carrying the weapons because he feared for his safety How American of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Deleted post. Too early for this. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 12 hours ago, ZacharyMark said: There's been plenty of non-Muslim terrorists in the USA though. I think the point the person was trying to make was to why mentioning the Qur'an in the first place. Does this mean every person who carries it will be put under a spotlight? Plenty? I don't think so. It'd be easy to country every act of terrorism not spurred on by radical Islam in the 21 century on two hands buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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