MTV: ‘See You Again’ And The Glaring Irrelevance Of The Oscars

[Duella Dvil 10,420]

1 hour ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

Who would you give an Oscar? 

No need to say anymore.

Well that is kinda ridiculous. When we can also pull up her marijuana Halloween costume. Don't profile. That is not what music is about. That is most certainly not what born this way taught us as a fan base. 

The only factors you need to consider are the songs and their intentions.

Otherwise. You are edging racist or biased and are judging books by their covers.

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

2 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

Well that is kinda ridiculous. When we can also pull up her marijuana Halloween costume. Don't profile. That is not what music is about. That is most certainly not what born this way taught us as a fan base. 

The only factors you need to consider are the songs and their intentions.

Otherwise. You are edging racist or biased and are judging books by their covers.

I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT BEFORE do not judge something for what you see at first -_-

[Duella Dvil 10,420]

Just now, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT BEFORE do not judge something for what you see at first -_-

Then edit your post.

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

58 minutes ago, Mich said:

And your point? 

 

 

No, but I don't see Wiz talking about sexual harassment while most of his songs talk about **** that girl and smoke that drug etc

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

2 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

Then edit your post.

I didn't even have the time to do it lol

[Katsuki Bakugo 9,788]

Take out the movie and the Death of Paul - this song is a tired old rap song with pop hooks and cliched lyrics and themes.  

Til It Happens to you deserves its nomination because of the message it spreads. 

Furious 7 continues to perpetuate the same ideals of masculinity with a slight emotion tied in because Paul died. 

The Hunting Ground is completely relevant in this day and doesn't even need this award to be relevant or exposed but the award will help.

(I also love how they state that it didn't take advantage of his death. Like really? it kind of did. That is why the song was "emotional". Its kind of obvious that it was used to tug at the heart strings of the viewers- because they will never meet again in films).

But this is my view so you know whatever. like or don't - really couldn't care less about an ultra masculine film about cars taking advantage of Paul's death. 

[StrawberryBlond 14,773]

The Oscars have nothing to do with sales and Vevo views. It's all about quality. They're also about reputation. They don't like to nominate people who cause scandal or are no good in some way. Wiz Khalifa is an infamous stoner who sounds like he's permanently high, sings about getting high as well as tawdry behaviour and he cheated on his wife and mother of his infant child recently (with twins apprently). The Oscars have only about a 1% chance of nominating someone like that. Eminem was the first rapper to win an Oscar and he has a shady past too but he at least had the upside of tons of critical acclaim. But Wiz gets mixed reception at best and will hardly go down as one of the greats. Rap typically never does well at the Oscars. Eminem won with Lose Yourself in 2002, the first ever rap song to win, It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp won in 2005 by Juicy J, Frayser Boy and DJ Paul. And Glory won last year, by Common and John Legend. That's it. And Juicy J is pretty damn lucky to have won - he's probably the only rapper with a bad reputation who will ever win an Oscar. The Oscars have been averse to rap forever because their tastes are so traditional.

No disrespect to Paul's death but the song had nothing to do with the film, it was just put in at the end of the film as a mark of respect not to the character, but to the real life actor. And let's not pretend like it didn't play up the sentimentality factor to increase profit for both the movie and the song. It's actually a very basic song that could have been written for any dead person, there was no personality in it that applied to Paul and no one else, just standard vanilla lyrics. You need more than that to get an Oscar nomination and clearly, the academy saw right through the cynical side of this idea. I'm sure everyone involved in the idea of making this song was genuinely sad but...they could have just done an RIP message at the end like everyone else. There was clearly plans to make a monster hit here and increase sales. And that kind of thing rubs a lot of people the wrong way. If Paul had been the most nominated actor in Oscar history, this might have been enough to secure a nomination at least, but he was never an award winning actor. So, putting it all together, the Oscars have no allegiances or obligations. It's not one of those instituations where the public should feel like "you owe us this for making this thing popular." It's not the Grammys or the MTV Awards. It's the Oscars, possibly the most respected entertainment award of all time. Different lane.

[Duella Dvil 10,420]

8 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

I didn't even have the time to do it lol

I went through and no you don't explain it you poorly agree and slightly clingto your misguided post.

Also have you not considered the artist being separate from their content? Because I do believe Gaga just wrote asong for ARTPOP while she was in a relationship about getting dolled up and hooking up. Yet you can let that slide. You can let disco stick slide. But I am almost sure you know nothing of what he stands up for politically. (I am NOT saying that I do.) Your statements just legitimately adhere to stereotypes and its revolting.I'm not for see you again getting the Oscar but I AM NOT here for ignoring the worth of a human being because of what popular rap music demands.

Popular rap music does not necessarily reflect the one able to say the rap. It might just be harkening a created dream that revolves around this genre and its image.

[Duella Dvil 10,420]

17 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

No, but I don't see Wiz talking about sexual harassment while most of his songs talk about **** that girl and smoke that drug etc

Also boys boys boys, LoveGame, and Mary Jane Holland say hi.

One song about rape does not cover up the fact that she has written songs that used sex to sell. Or that she smoked a blunt that wastossedd up on stage.

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

3 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

I went through and no you don't explain it you poorly agree and slightly clingto your misguided post.

Also have you not considered the artist being separate from their content? Because I do believe Gaga just wrote asong for ARTPOP while she was in a relationship about getting dolled up and hooking up. Yet you can let that slide. You can let disco stick slide. But I am almost sure you know nothing of what he stands up for politically. (I am NOT saying that I do.) Your statements just legitimately adhere to stereotypes and its revolting.I'm not for see you again getting the Oscar but I AM NOT here for ignoring the worth of a human being because of what popular rap music demands.

Popular rap music does not necessarily reflect the one able to say the rap. It might just be harkening a created dream that revolves around this genre and its image.

Yeah, but I can have an opinion, right? I haven't affected Wiz's respect. It's my opinion on him, and I thin Gaga deserves the Oscar more than him. That's it. Do not try to see things when I have not said them

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

2 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

Also boys boys boys, LoveGame, and Mary Jane Holland say hi.

One song about rape does not cover up the fact that she has written songs that used sex to sell. Or that she smoked a blunt that wastossedd up on stage.

OK! then give him an Oscar and let Gaga without it after everything good she's done for all of us and the world. 

[Duella Dvil 10,420]

Just now, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

Yeah, but I can have an opinion, right? I haven't affected Wiz's respect. It's my opinion on him, and I thin Gaga deserves the Oscar more than him. That's it. Do not try to see things when I have not said them

No sir several people saw and got what you were saying. A misguided and borderline racist remark. Very book by the cover. And if you want to go based on appearance put the weekend there. That hair? Oh he MUST do drugs and have to much sex. His music says so.

 

Please leave image out when discussing what a song means

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

5 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

No sir several people saw and got what you were saying. A misguided and borderline racist remark. Very book by the cover. And if you want to go based on appearance put the weekend there. That hair? Oh he MUST do drugs and have to much sex. His music says so.

 

Please leave image out when discussing what a song means

It's just you that got it that way. I've explained already 3 times. It's time to leave it behind dude! bye!

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See You Again was not nominated because it is overrated as **** and is NOT Oscar worthy.

Just because it was played and bought loads of times does not equal a nomination  

**** you MTV :fthis: 

[SlaeUrAnus 15,947]

30 minutes ago, Passion2Action said:

Well that is kinda ridiculous. When we can also pull up her marijuana Halloween costume. Don't profile. That is not what music is about. That is most certainly not what born this way taught us as a fan base. 

The only factors you need to consider are the songs and their intentions.

Otherwise. You are edging racist or biased and are judging books by their covers.

How is it racist by judging someone that smokes pot?