ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 1/15/2016 at 6:37 AM, NewYorkCity said: I find this as stupid as when governments have to include a percentage of women in the government just because if you don't it is sexism. This isn't exactly the same thing though That has much more to do with gender parity and general equality, as men historically have a tendency to ignore or misunderstand the issues that are specific to women on a societal level and legislate accordingly All men deciding 'I think women shouldn't be able to have abortions or easy access to birth control and contraceptives' for example, is all kinds of ****ed up when you consider that there are no women (whom the laws would actually affect) standing up to even voice their opinions. It's not "We will call you sexist if you don't hire women! its more of "This is a safeguard against unchecked privilege that tends to heavily favor one gender over the other" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Back on topic though... In the myriad of opinions, im going with "Hollywood ITSELF is whitewashed, so the Oscars had an already limited pool of people to choose from" though I do think some actors of color were DEFINITELY snubbed this year (Yes, of color - this isn't a purely black-white issue, in fact when you think of like Asian-Americans its even more imbalanced ) Not sure if there's some implicit or subconscious racism involved, and we can't really know that, but I don't think personally based on my opinions of the movies that came out last year that everyone nominated deserved it, while there are others that imo definitely did. Some are PoC, some are white. Im not sure if i can chalk it up to "overall not the best nominations from the board" any more definitively than I can say "there was no explicit racist intention or motivation", as we are all subject to socialization. If for nothing else, discussions like this can be productive in that we encourage Hollywood to be more diverse (and in turn accurate, as all of the stories out there to be told and shared are clearly not just white, not just men, etc.) by showing how we feel about this. Outrage can fuel inspiration to be more progressive. On 1/15/2016 at 10:36 AM, Redstreak said: @Kayla Coming in here and SLAYING with just two posts omg. Like she always does Queen of being way more articulate and concise than I 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Can I just say: You can't have it both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 1/14/2016 at 5:52 PM, Emigrante said: Jesus. Seriously? Maybe none of black actors deserve the nomination. What world I live in to be honest. Exactly.. also, its not just whites that were nominated, many other races were nominated but I guess today if your not black you are considered white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 On 15 January 2016 at 11:57 PM, Simon said: I'm not sure if I get that. Almost every white poeple in NA is European ? They have "white" skin but they are of different effnicity. But yes agreed. If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco 3,040 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 21 hours ago, Kayla said: Which is kindof odd. Netflix has put out some great series. I'm not very well-versed in them, but I don't think the fact that they're on Netflix should make them unworthy of at least consideration. I find it extremely odd. Idris Elba was EXCELLENT in that movie, one of my fav movie of the year by far. It even made me cry which is pretty rare Whatever the reason why they didnt nominate him (either because they dont find Netflix worthy or because they're racist like many ppl suggest), the Academy pretty much lost all credibility to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregano 103 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, Paco said: I find it extremely odd. Idris Elba was EXCELLENT in that movie, one of my fav movie of the year by far. It even made me cry which is pretty rare Whatever the reason why they didnt nominate him (either because they dont find Netflix worthy or because they're racist like many ppl suggest), the Academy pretty much lost all credibility to me. Beast of No Nation is not deemed unworthy by the Academy, ineligible more like it. It will make impact at the Emmys probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyliesChild 16,907 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 To those saying stuff about the BET: shut up. This is a reason to explain why there are black award shows because many black artists (such as actors, singers, etc) aren't getting enough credit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbriaWitch 325 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I hope the people who are using the BET Awards as some kinda counterargument are being facetious or sarcastic, or I worry You do know the exact topic of this thread is why awards like BET exist to begin with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 On 15 January 2016 at 1:36 PM, VenusOddity said: If you're implying that I'm at all ignorant or racist due to my post, I take offence. Do you think the Academy only considers white actors? Or that they make a collective conscious decision to not nominate black actors? If you do, then I'm unsure why you've quoted me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 On 1/16/2016 at 3:05 PM, ShockPop said: Can I just say: You can't have it both ways. This is like an Oscar for them, isn't it? Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Princess Die said: This is like an Oscar for them, isn't it? No white person will ever know. White people are excluded literally just because they're white. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, ShockPop said: No white person will ever know. White people are excluded literally just because they're white. Gaga won a BET though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeforVenus 950 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, ShockPop said: No white person will ever know. White people are excluded literally just because they're white. Donald trump (latin hitler) won 5 bet awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 1 hour ago, JusticeforVenus said: Donald trump (latin hitler) won 5 bet awards Exactly my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave 193 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Didn't The Weeknd get a nomination? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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