ARTPOP was really THAT bad?

[AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734]

literally no one on the face of this earth can deny that if Gypsy or even Do What U Want was the first single that it would have been a completely different story 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

23 hours ago, Tove Lo said:

I can name a few!

Tove Lo - Queen of the Clouds

Allie X - COLLXTION I

BANKS - Goddess

Marina and The Diamonds - FROOT

and etc.

 

ARTPOP is a disaster in production while all these albums mostly have no faults in production, don't sound... I don't really know how to put it without saying basic so I guess "cheap", and sound really fresh while being electronic (besides FROOT kind of).

Even Allie X produced all the songs on her album while Gaga tried one song and it turned into a cringey disaster.  Of course the last part is my opinion but I know other people who aren't Gaga fans who also don't really like the song much.

ARTPOP has some bops but even those select few still have bad production. The album is decent but don't let the talent we all know Gaga has blind you from not so great quality of the album.

Edit: Plus the fact you have to defend the album with versions of songs that weren't even on the album is really bad.

QOC is one of the cheapest electronic albums I've ever heard, so much for the ridiculous hype I'm here. Froot was bad except from the lead single that was great. ARTPOP and all its flaws >>>>>>>>>>>>

 

I haven't even heard the rest.

[Harry 26,836]

8 minutes ago, deeman said:

Not at all. The logic is solid. see some of the posts don't have any justification or reasoning that explains why the poster is so hostile. This hostility is therefore obviously due to something other than what they wish to explain and based on my assessment of the work it would appear that gaga worked hard with good intentions so I am challenging those people on whether they have worked hard with good intentions. This doesn't mean that I can't challenge albums where I believe that the intentions are not good when I can explain my reasoning and justify my position and am someone who has also worked hard with good intentions.

How about people just don't think it's a great album? That's perfectly reasonable. I don't think anyone would deny that Gaga worked hard or meant well with ARTPOP, but not everything will have a universal reception. That's just a fact. And people who don't love it aren't required to pen an essay explaining their opinion to make it valid just because it's not positive.

"I want to hear why it is you are so much better." - no one saying they don't love ARTPOP is suggesting they could do better or are better than Gaga. It's just a subjective matter. Her ass doesn't need to be kissed 24/7 just for it to be an acceptable opinion.

[Tove Lo 2,481]

9 minutes ago, VforVendetta said:

QOC is one of the cheapest electronic albums I've ever heard, so much for the ridiculous hype I'm here. Forgot was bad except from the lead single that was great. ARTPOP and all its flaws >>>>>>>>>>>>

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ARTPOP is the literal definition of "cheap electronic album".

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BUT, I can agree that the production on The Way That I Am is not great. Though that's one track compared to about every track on ARTPOP.

 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Just now, Tove Lo said:

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ARTPOP is the literal definition of "cheap electronic album".

 

Not at all. And even though it's the purest EDM sound Gaga has made the album is far from being electronic music alone anyway unlike the atrocity you stan for that is 95% annoying and bland EDM beats.

[Tove Lo 2,481]

13 minutes ago, VforVendetta said:

4 minutes ago, VforVendetta said:

 

 

4 minutes ago, VforVendetta said:

Not at all. And even though it's the purest EDM sound Gaga has made the album is far from being electronic music alone anyway unlike the atrocity you stan for that is 95% annoying and bland EDM beats.

Okay, obviously you're crazy. Every song is Electronic and many are Electronic Dance. Like, get your ears checked. 

Bland

EDM

BEATS

Stop talking about ARTPOP that way.

[deeman 189]

49 minutes ago, Harry said:

How about people just don't think it's a great album? That's perfectly reasonable. I don't think anyone would deny that Gaga worked hard or meant well with ARTPOP, but not everything will have a universal reception. That's just a fact. And people who don't love it aren't required to pen an essay explaining their opinion to make it valid just because it's not positive.

"I want to hear why it is you are so much better." - no one saying they don't love ARTPOP is suggesting they could do better or are better than Gaga. It's just a subjective matter. Her ass doesn't need to be kissed 24/7 just for it to be an acceptable opinion.

 

Well hear is an article from 2013.

 

"The music's hyperactive, but also pretty safe—eager to please, not blow minds or change the world. Combine that move towards the conventional with what Gaga’s singing about, and it becomes downright bleak; ARTPOP is about, and embodies, the idea of entertainment as a mere distraction from emotional emptiness."

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/anyone-else-bummed-out-by-lady-gagas-em-ARTPOP-em/281335/

Complete lie and blatent when you realise venus doesn't even get a mention. What has this journalist ever acheived in his life?  this was an early article and no you are not doing a very good job out of making out I was talking about people who just didn't love ARTPOP and the kissing her ass comment was well unpleasant and revealing.

[Harry 26,836]

20 minutes ago, deeman said:

 

Well hear is an article from 2013.

 

"The music's hyperactive, but also pretty safe—eager to please, not blow minds or change the world. Combine that move towards the conventional with what Gaga’s singing about, and it becomes downright bleak; ARTPOP is about, and embodies, the idea of entertainment as a mere distraction from emotional emptiness."

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/anyone-else-bummed-out-by-lady-gagas-em-ARTPOP-em/281335/

Complete lie and blatent when you realise venus doesn't even get a mention. this was an early article and no you are not doing a very good job out of making out I was talking about people who just didn't love ARTPOP and the kissing her ass comment was well unpleasant and revealing.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about but okay keep crying about an album from two years ago if you like

[deeman 189]

34 minutes ago, Harry said:

This has absolutely nothing to do with what we were talking about but okay keep crying about an album from two years ago if you like

Nothing to do with it. old news.  hmm where I have heard that one before..

"The 25 Rules of Disinformation

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news."

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/

 

Remember I posted an opinion forming article that doesn't mention the song venus which is arguably the best song from ARTPOP and Harry is saying it is offtopic on a thread titled "ARTPOP was really THAT bad?". Harry does not appear to think that venus should have been mentioned in that article. Too the planet from the planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBoTNfQb84

[zexion_armando 241]

Being the most basic and creatively dead album...

[Harry 26,836]

40 minutes ago, deeman said:

Nothing to do with it. old news.  hmm where I have heard that one before..

"The 25 Rules of Disinformation

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news."

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/

 

Remember I posted an opinion forming article that doesn't mention the song venus which is arguably the best song from ARTPOP and Harry is saying it is offtopic on a thread titled "ARTPOP was really THAT bad?". Harry does not appear to think that venus should have been mentioned in that article. Too the planet from the planet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBoTNfQb84

But there's nothing to even argue? Some people don't like ARTPOP. Fact. It's that simple. And that's fine. Get over it.

And Venus isn't 'arguably the best song'. Because, guess what? It's subjective. And for the record that is my favourite song from ARTPOP.

Why are you trying so hard to change people's opinion on an album?

[deeman 189]

10 minutes ago, Harry said:

for the record that is my favourite song from ARTPOP.

Why are you trying so hard to change people's opinion on an album?

I think your the one who is still at it after more than two years. ARTPOP is relatively new to me. See if you were in the slightest bit honest you wouldn't be now claiming venus is your favourite song from ARTPOP whilst still having nothing to say about an opinion forming article from the time shortly after the album was released that didn't mention venus. then to say it is subjective when you have just said "people who don't love it aren't required to pen an essay explaining their opinion to make it valid just because it's not positive". in other words i'm not allowed an opinion that is positive but negative ones are valid. really I am going to put you on ignore.

[Harry 26,836]

Just now, deeman said:

I think your the one who is still at it after more than two years. ARTPOP is relatively new to me. See if you were in the slightest bit honest you wouldn't be now claiming venus is your favourite song from ARTPOP whilst still having nothing to say about an opinion forming article from the time shortly after the album was released. then to say it is subjective when you have just said "people who don't love it aren't required to pen an essay explaining their opinion to make it valid just because it's not positive". in other words i'm not allowed an opinion that is positive but negative ones are valid. really I am going to put you on ignore.

I didn't say you weren't allowed an opinion... But you were trying to invalidate the opinion of others just because it was different to yours. You're painfully dumb. Please put me on ignore.

[deeman 189]

12 minutes ago, Harry said:

12 minutes ago, Harry said:

 

I didn't say you weren't allowed an opinion... But you were trying to invalidate the opinion of others just because it was different to yours. You're painfully dumb. Please put me on ignore.

No i wasn't but I do remember I wasn't inititally clear about the types of posts I was referring too but that was deliberate or accidental  but I have made it clear repeatedly now which types of posts I was referring too  yet you continue to lie and deceive. no point talking too people like you.

[Harry 26,836]

1 minute ago, deeman said:

No i wasn't but I do remember I wasn't inititally clear about the types of posts I was referring too but that was deliberate and I have made that clear repeatedly and you continue to lie and deceive. no point talking too people like you.

okay bye!