AHS: Hotel - one of top ten shows on TV in 2015.

[Poot 719]

everyone caring a little too much about critics here. some people find it bad, some not. if you enjoy it, cool, if others don't, that's cool too. not everything gaga does has to have some award next to it. and i've seen more people think this season isn't that good than people who do. so one good review isn't gonna change that. accept it most people aren't here for this season.

that being said, this season is amazing and is a huge improvement than freak show

[Bradley 59,156]

Just now, Rapunxel said:

everyone caring a little too much about critics here. some people find it bad, some not. if you enjoy it, cool, if others don't, that's cool too. not everything gaga does has to have some award next to it. and i've seen more people think this season isn't that good than people who do. so one good review isn't gonna change that. accept it most people aren't here for this season.

that being said, this season is amazing and is a huge improvement than freak show

Thank God the critics are the minority then.

[asana15 16,648]

35 minutes ago, Yves said:

@asana15 It needs subscription to see the list. Can you post the top 10?

1. “Fargo,” FX. The second installment of the anthology series created by Noah Hawley maintains its link to the original Coen Brothers film and the show’s first season, but with new characters and situations, this year involving an organized crime family in North Dakota. It was funny, bleak, almost Beckettian. The show is getting compared to “Breaking Bad” and Hawley to Vince Gilligan, which more than justifies the sweet production deal he just signed with FX.

2. “Master of None,” Netflix. Aziz Ansari stars as an Indian actor in a masterpiece of sly, smart and really funny comedy which the former “Parks & Recreation” actor created with Alan Yang.

3. “Difficult People,” Hulu. Billy Eichner and Julie Klausner play two absolutely insufferable people, and you love every minute of laughing at their self-obsession and near total obliviousness to the existence of other people in the world.

4. “Deutschland 83,” Sundance TV. Jonas Nay stars gripping, smartly nuanced drama about a young East German (Jonas Nay) who is recruited by the Stasi in 1983 to spy in West Germany. The show’s writing and character development were top notch, and nothing was lost in translation in the subtitled German import.

5. “Mr. Robot,” USA. Rami Malek was the break-out star of this USA drama about a young disaffected computer engineer with significant social adjustment issues and a drug habit who is recruited by a group of cyber-terrorist hackers. Their target is E Corp, which Malek’s character calls Evil Corp. TV’s hippest show in years.

6. “Casual,” Hulu. Hulu scored again this year with a slyly dark comedy about a recently divorced woman (Michaela Watkins) who, with her teenage daughter, moves in with her younger man-child brother and tries to re-enter the dating world, where love need not apply.

7. “Catastrophe,” Amazon. An American in London on business hooks up with an Irish woman and the two then go about their business, until she (Sharon Horgan) tells him (Rob Delaney) she’s pregnant. Now what? “Unknown,” and that’s what makes the basis for this sublime comedy about two people just trying to work things out.

8. “The Diplomat,” HBO. The late Richard C. Holbrooke, who died in 2010, was a singularly gifted diplomat and not always a great father. His son David wanted to know what made his father the smartest man in any room where international negotiations were taking place. What he learned becomes the a useful lesson in foreign policy history with obvious implications to where we stand in the world today.

9. “Empire,” Fox. Big, brassy melodrama about a family owned record label starring Taraji P. Henson and Terrence Howard, with killer original music. The themes are Shakespearean, but Lady Macbeth has nothing on Cookie Lyons (Henson).

10. “American Horror Story: Hotel,” FX. The best installment yet of the Ryan Murphy-Brad Falchuk over-the-top anthology series gives us Lady Gaga, Kathy Bates, Matt Bomer, Sarah Paulson and others dressed to the nines and slinking around a once elegant art deco hotel with a lurid past. The hotel, and Gaga’s character as well.

[monketsharona 81,625]

12 minutes ago, Rapunxel said:

everyone caring a little too much about critics here. some people find it bad, some not. if you enjoy it, cool, if others don't, that's cool too. not everything gaga does has to have some award next to it. and i've seen more people think this season isn't that good than people who do. so one good review isn't gonna change that. accept it most people aren't here for this season.

that being said, this season is amazing and is a huge improvement than freak show

Yeah I have a lot of friends that didn't like FS but felt in love again with AHS thanks to Hotel (not Gaga, they are not Gaga fans). Actually like every year AHS has mixed opinion, like always... But globally a lot of AHS fans like it... The GP... I don't care  I mean they are not the most important part of the audience, they leave and they return, it's always like that..

Concerning ratings, people have to consider that AHS is a cable show and that most of its ratings are from streaming. It's still doing amazing in L+3 and L+7. Not a surprise they already renewed it, it's still very popular. 

[Bt1 5,213]

This is just one opinion. The majority of critics will ignore this season.

[Bt1 5,213]

2 hours ago, monketsharona said:

Yeah I have a lot of friends that didn't like FS but felt in love again with AHS thanks to Hotel (not Gaga, they are not Gaga fans). Actually like every year AHS has mixed opinion, like always... But globally a lot of AHS fans like it... The GP... I don't care  I mean they are not the most important part of the audience, they leave and they return, it's always like that..

Concerning ratings, people have to consider that AHS is a cable show and that most of its ratings are from streaming. It's still doing amazing in L+3 and L+7. Not a surprise they already renewed it, it's still very popular. 

Television is changing, but the drop in ratings happened in the last 2 months. It had the second best start of every season and now the ratings of the last episodes are some of the lowest in the history of the show. It clearly says something about the public reaction. Considering that the critics arent really supporting this season, it is clear that the quality of the show is simply lower this season. 

[monketsharona 81,625]

Just now, Florin said:

Television is changing, but the drop in ratings happened in the last 2 months. It had the second best start of every season and now the ratings of the last episodes are some of the lowest in the history of the show. It clearly says something about the public reaction. Considering that the critics arent really supporting this season, it is clear that the quality of the show is simply lower this season. 

So in your mind Freak Show is the best in quality ? 

[Bt1 5,213]

3 minutes ago, monketsharona said:

So in your mind Freak Show is the best in quality ? 

This is the only season that I watched from AHS. I think I saw some of the episodes from other seasons too, but I can really have an opinion on them. Gaga made me watch this. If it wasnt for her, I would have stop after the first episode or even earlier.

Some of the last episodes were better, but the first ones were really bad.

[Lord Ryry 3,367]

I think one of the points is many people only watch the show for Gaga, so why would we expect you to understand/get the show and appreciate it for what it is - when simply its not your cup of tea. I've always been a fan of AHS and this is by far one of the better seasons, not as good as Asylum but better than Freakshow, Murder House and Coven imo. Of course you'd think it was bad if you didn't like the show in the first place, Gaga can only do so much to win over viewers. 

[monketsharona 81,625]

11 minutes ago, Florin said:

This is the only season that I watched from AHS. I think I saw some of the episodes from other seasons too, but I can really have an opinion on them. Gaga made me watch this. If it wasnt for her, I would have stop after the first episode or even earlier.

Some of the last episodes were better, but the first ones were really bad.

Ok ^^

I still don't think ratings are the proof of good or bad quality. I mean Asylum is the one fans love the most, followed by Murder House, however it got quite similiar ratings than Hotel... Freak Show who got mixed reviews also got the best ratings ever of the show...

Actually I think you're right when you say TV changed (especially this year). Since the season start, almost every shows existing right now hit their series lows in ratings... I think streaming is growing a lot in those days to the detriment of live ratings. Especially for cable shows. I'm not only talking about AHS. And we can see AHS as an example, live ratings are down but streaming ratings are going up (actually even doing amazing)... TV is definitely changing like you said... 

[Bt1 5,213]

3 minutes ago, monketsharona said:

Ok ^^

I still don't think ratings are the proof of good or bad quality. I mean Asylum is the one fans love the most, followed by Murder House, however it got quite similiar ratings than Hotel... Freak Show who got mixed reviews also got the best ratings ever of the show...

Actually I think you're right when you say TV changed (especially this year). Since the season start, almost every shows existing right now hit their series lows in ratings... I think streaming is growing a lot in those days to the detriment of live ratings. Especially for cable shows. I'm not only talking about AHS. And we can see AHS as an example, live ratings are down but streaming ratings are going up (actually even doing amazing)... TV is definitely changing like you said... 

As I said its not only the ratings. The critics are far from stellar. When the public and the critics are together, the probality that they are wrong is very small, especially with tv shows.

[Felicia 124]

4 hours ago, asana15 said:

 

10. “American Horror Story: Hotel,” FX. The best installment yet 

Lmao.. Not a chance. Asylum and Coven run rings around it. Even the most gracious, objective, critic might consider this season a coin-flip with Freak Show for 3rd. And a lot of people in the know (people who actually watched AHS before Gaga's involvement) consider it a candidate for the weakest of the 5.

Jessica Lange was a towering presence. A lot of people don't think Gaga quite fills her shoes.

People here (who view things through the "Gaga bubble") have a hard time realizing that her work has been "middling" (albeit with flashes of greatness--not the use of the word "flashes").

It's good that a Gaga sycophant has a gig like the author of the article.

But, objectively, this season of AHS is no better than the 3rd best (and may even be the worst ever).

Sorry if I upset anybody with the newsflash, But, it is what it is.

 

 

 

 

[Bradley 59,156]

8 hours ago, Florin said:

This is just one opinion. The majority of critics will ignore this season.

what??? The viewer ratings are doing bad, I admit, but critically it's a success. The critics adore this show. Every episode apart from 'The Ten Commandments Killer' received a fresh score from Rotten Tomatoes, even some were acclaimed and went above 85%, which is really good. The impression of 'mixed reviews' that was given by episode one was only temporary, other episodes proved that this season is doing just fine.

[venusian 4,686]

11 hours ago, Didymus said:

The people who have been keeping an eye on the ratings and some reviews.

 

[freebit 6,240]

Interesting turnaround there for that critic regarding Gaga.

As for the show, judging from tumblr and reddit, I feel like the core fanbase has responded pretty well to the season despite the numbers being down. The fans seem very super cautious though, lol. They remind me of this tweet regarding Star Wars fans earlier this year: