60% of Palestinians support the intifada&killing of innocents

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, Fays1 said:

Yes I can because there is definitions to everything and by using philosophy, we can make make a rational argument without being a semite but guess what? I am a semite! Also, Zionism is a political movement and not a race.

No you can't. Anti-semitism is defined as hate towards the ethnicity of the Jews. That's right Zionism is not an race, but Jews are an ethnicity. 

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23 minutes ago, Simon said:

No you can't. Anti-semitism is defined as hate towards the ethnicity of the Jews. That's right Zionism is not an race, but Jews are an ethnicity. 

Nowhere in any of my comments do I have hate towards Jews as ethnics.. I said that the majority of Jews supports Israel and I see the Israeli government as a Nazi government. You can say my comments are offensive or not appropriate but its not racist or anti semitic.

[River 127,482]

Hey people you know some users here have families in Israel, like me, and they read things that can be hurting!!!

I'm kinda shock about some things that I read it, like my family is **** and their death would be (and is for one family member - don't ask me about it please) ok for everybody..

Now to the topic:

Intifida will bring nothing to them... just more death and more chaos.. 

 

But what can you expect? the Israeli politicians are doing nothing, most of them wants to build and to expend the illegal settlements, letting some psychopathic politicians to say at the media that to burn a whole family is not a terror attack because "jews are not terrorist"..

But in the other hand, the Palestinian politicians (I'm talking about Abbas and his imaginary friends, Hammas is out of question) are promoting violence which causing a few death in Israel but a large death to the Palestinians, giving them the hope for a country when they know that it can't happen in that moment.. and not calming down the fire.. they just let it spread..

Nobody is talking with each other.. so you can't say "we tried to talk first" nah, it's false.. they never really tried, always found excuses.. "how can we talk when you sending rockets?" "how can we talk when you build more settlements?

bullshit, just ****ing talk!!

@SubRosa first, nice username

Second, BDS are a nightmare to me personally, they did a lot of **** to me in the last few months here in France that at some point I gave up and when to the police and filed a complaint against them..

They are so stupid to understand that I'm not the enemy and I'm a peaceful Israeli

[Melech 9,900]

1 minute ago, Fays1 said:

Nowhere in any of my comments do I have hate towards Jews as ethnics.. I said that the majority of Jews supports Israel and I see the Israeli government as a Nazi government. You can say my comments are offensive or not appropriate but its not racist or anti semitic.

Comparing Israel to the government who tried to destroy the Jews is so false Please, learn something about Nazism and Nazi Germany, before you make such stupid statements. You only make yourself look dumb. 

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Just now, Simon said:

Comparing Israel to the government who tried to destroy the Jews is so false Please, learn something about Nazism and Nazi Germany, before you make such stupid statements. You only make yourself look dumb. 

You can say im dumb if you want but you cant call me a racist.. I also made the point before how Zionism and Nazism are the same thing so I wont make these points again.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, Fays1 said:

You can say im dumb if you want but you cant call me a racist.. I also made the point before how Zionism and Nazism are the same thing so I wont make these points again.

I can call you racist, you racist. See just did and you just proved it. 

[Didymus 34,380]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

Comparing Israel to the government who tried to destroy the Jews is so false

There are valid reasons for comparing them, though. Fays1 isn't the only one who does it, in fact where I live it's a very common thing to hear "the Jews are doing the same that was done to them" and even though that's of course very simplified, it's not groundless either..

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4 minutes ago, Simon said:

I can call you racist, you racist. See just did and you just proved it. 

Yes you can say it but you cant prove im racist based on what I said.. if what I said is considered racist, then saying 60% of palestinians support killing innocents is racist.

[lego 44,165]

@River it's me buddy  thank you.

I know that there are many ignorant and violent who attach themselves to the movement and police should deal with them, but the movement itself is world wide spread and the message is non-violent and that should matter. It wouldn't even need to exist if there would be sanctions and international pressure on Israel to remove the settlements, end the occupation and work towards peaceful solution. But you know that Netanyahu is not interested in that. Israeli state has upper hand here.

[Melech 9,900]

9 minutes ago, Didymus said:

There are valid reasons for comparing them, though. Fays1 isn't the only one who does it, in fact where I live it's a very common thing to hear "the Jews are doing the same that was done to them" and even though that's of course very simplified, it's not groundless either..

It's pretty groundless considering most Jews don't even life in Israel. Or is it okay to generalize every muslim to terrorists? 

It's stupid. You can criticize Israel how much you want. I don't care about that. The wording to compare them to Nazis is just there to provocate. 

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, Simon said:

It's pretty groundless considering most Jews don't even life in Israel. Or is it okay to generalize every muslim to terrorists? 

It's stupid. You can criticize Israel how much you want. I don't care about that. The wording to compare them to Nazis is just there to provocate. 

Well, they obviously refer to the Jews who support Israel.

And well.. it may be stupid, but it just shows that a lot of Europeans (not sure about Americans) just genuinely don't understand why Israeli Jews, or Jews in support of Israel, were/are comfortable with so much violence so quickly after World War II. You can dismiss the comment, but that issue is important.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, Didymus said:

Well, they obviously refer to the Jews who support Israel.

And well.. it may be stupid, but it just shows that a lot of Europeans (not sure about Americans) just genuinely don't understand why Israeli Jews, or Jews in support of Israel, were/are comfortable with so much violence so quickly after World War II. You can dismiss the comment, but that issue is important.

Of course but would you agree when people say: "Muslims blow up building.I mean obvious they mean those terrorists right?" See, that sounds totally wrong in my opinion. :shrug: 

And well Europeans and Arabs should first look at their own why Jews needed an own state, before they wonder about that 

 

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, Simon said:

Of course but would you agree when people say: "Muslims blow up building.I mean obvious they mean those terrorists right?" See, that sounds totally wrong in my opinion. :shrug: 

And well Europeans and Arabs should first look at their own why Jews needed an own state, before they wonder about that 

Obviously I wouldn't agree. But it doesn't matter what they say, what matters is why they say it and what that tells us And I'm quite amused that after you dismiss generalizations and simplifications you are now blaming European/Arab nations for instigating Zionism. Talk about distorting history for an agenda

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, Didymus said:

Obviously I wouldn't agree. But it doesn't matter what they say, what matters is why they say it and what that tells us And I'm quite amused that after you dismiss generalizations and simplifications you are now blaming European/Arab nations for instigating Zionism. Talk about distorting history for an agenda

European and Arab anti-semitism are the reason why Zionism exists in the first place. 

[Didymus 34,380]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

European and Arab anti-semitism are the reason why Zionism exists in the first place. 

That's.. well, you can't say that looking at history. I get why you say that as a Jew, but that's like saying that antisemitism occurred because of Jewish isolationism It doesn't cut it and it tells you nothing.