Nino 12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 1 minute ago, LDR said: I'm getting so tired of these threads. Everyone was DYING for new Adele music, and as soon as she makes the biggest album of all time, people are going straight into their "why her" mindsets. Same **** happened with Taylor Swift. Everyone on this site was excited and interested in her new pop sound, most people loved the album the first week, and then she just became a huge target of ridicule because her album was the record-breaking album that year. it's so sickening that you people can't pipe down and let an artist be successful. You sitting here typing up your essay on how Adele doesn't deserve her success isn't going to convince 2.5 million people to return her albums. Adele is a beautiful singer with a lovely personality. She deserves the success and I'm glad the world is giving it to her. She's not problematic, over-the-top, or too boring. And that's that. read the whole op before replying or at least the first few lines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateus Miranda 1 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Sorry, i don't know how to write in english very well, so i'll write in portuguese and the interested ones can translate with google translate, just like i do all the time when i read american sites. Adele é legítima. É uma pessoa que não se esforça em manter uma pose de diva da música, do soul e do mundo contemporâneo, mas, mesmo assim, consegue soar como uma verdadeira diva graças ao seu jeito naturalmente gracioso. Adele não se preocupa em falar palavrões, contar piadas, histórias da vida, RIR ALTO (amo a risada dela) ou fazer qualquer coisa que ela faria numa mesa de bar com amigos. Ela é espontânea. É Adele. E isso é muito difícil no mundo pop. As divas sempre seguem um tipo de postura. Aquela de mulher engraçada, s-xy, diferente de todas as outras, uma quase deusa. Adele não. Adele só quer ser Adele. E isso já explica o motivo de tantas pessoas amarem a pessoa de Adele. Ela também não costuma arranjar polêmicas e falar sobre temas polêmicos, já que estes não entram em sua obra, o que faz dela uma companhia agradável pra qualquer pessoa. Por que as pessoas amam a música de Adele: porque ela fala de sentimentos como nenhum dos artistas pop contemporâneos fala. Amy Winehouse também tinha esse dom de exprimir a própria dor e as próprias inseguranças através da música de uma forma diferente, o que a fez muito especial. As duas, Amy e Adele, são compositoras fantásticas. Mesmo assim, ainda acho Amy uma compositora melhor. As letras são confortáveis, fazem com que as pessoas se identifiquem com as músicas e gostem delas. Além disso, a sonoridade das músicas é bem diferente da que estamos acostumados. Os instrumentais soam como verdadeiros clássicos e são fantásticos. Muito profissionais, especialmente a partir do 21. Mesmo os mais simples, são muito cativantes. A voz de Adele também é outro diferencial. Não falo apenas dos alcances, mas também do próprio timbre dela, que é muito diferente das cantoras pop atuais e muito mais bonito. Adele alcança notas razoavelmente bem e seu timbre se encaixa muito bem com suas músicas. Tem um tom de clássico na voz dela que faz com que tudo pareça ainda melhor. Com isso, temos uma cantora que faz com que seu público goste de sua pessoa, goste de sua voz, goste de suas músicas e as considere clássicos, goste de tudo o que existe nela, porque ela, no geral, é uma pessoa muito fácil de ser amada. E, depois do estouro que foi o 21 e do sumiço de 5 anos, não é à toa que o mundo esteja louco pra saber por que, só agora, ela voltou, e ouvir seus novos materiais. Ela é uma artista legítima, uma pessoa legítima. E o mundo precisa de mais artistas como ela, que sejam naturais. Gaga é muito natural nas entrevistas e nos shows quando fala com os fãs, isso faz dela mais especial. Isso é o que penso sobre Adele e acho o sucesso dela compreensível, visto que o trabalho dela é fantástico e ela soube aproveitar muito bem, em termos de marketing, o estouro que foi o 21. P.S.: o fato de ela se reservar e não ter escândalos pessoais, nem viver expondo a vida como se fosse um livro aberto, também a faz ser mais bem vista pelo público, aumentando o número de fãs. Conclusão: tudo é marketing, mas um bom marketing precisa de um bom talento pra funcionar. E isso ela tem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 1 minute ago, Nino said: read the whole op before replying or at least the first few lines Ummm...I did. My reply is directly representative of that. I'm judging people like you that have to question why an artist is successful. And it's really desperate of you to sit here and reply to each and every response to your OP. That's a bit pathetic. Take your RIP emoticons elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Just now, LDR said: Ummm...I did. My reply is directly representative of that. I'm judging people like you that have to question why an artist is successful. And it's really desperate of you to sit here and reply to each and every response to your OP. That's a bit pathetic. Take your RIP emoticons elsewhere. Your reply isn't representative of anything relevant to this topic. I literally asked "why adele", I wanted an answer, not pathethetic hate-obssessed losers to come in and try to defend or judge Adele. It's not my fault that you can't read well enough to understand. If I wanted to say anything bad on Adele or her success I would fan the flames of the many who replied with bitterness and jealousy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zexion_armando 241 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Its being basic, thats what she is. But because she hit at the right time where people were fed up with "fake" and "artificial" that they ate up her charade. Now she has no motivation to change anyway. She could sneeze and it would sell millions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy 11,670 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 18 hours ago, AmericanHSlave said: I love Adele but no. She is not as talented as Lady Gaga. Adele is not an actress. We haven't heard Adele perform jazz yet, I'm not saying Adele can't, I'm saying she hasn't done it before. Adele is a singer, Lady Gaga is a singer AND performer. Not to mention a great one. Adele is a songwriter. Lady Gaga is a songwriter and producer. Adele is an actress in her music videos, Lady Gaga is the director and actress in her music videos. Adele puts on a concert, Lady Gaga puts on a ball. and of course fashion is Lady Gaga's b---h. I love Adele but I have the right to give Lady Gaga the credits she deserves. oh I just found out you wrote "talented like LG" not talented as LG my bad Never shade the princess of GGD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Why Adele? I loved the quirkiness of 19. It had a very unique and cool vibe There was real growth between 19 and 21. 21 was Adele evolving as a songwriter and her sound and she had some amazingly well-crafted and musically interesting songs on there lyrically and arrangementwise. Anyone calling that album generic or trying to take it down by calling it mainstream misses the point. She wrote some amazing songs on that album that took you somewhere as far as melodically and written from her life at that point and had fantastic hooks. The album was almost flawless. It was a deeply personal album. But It wasn't just some sad album about a broken heart. It was filled with anger and energy in many songs, longing in some, bitterness in some, vulnerability and sadness, and weakness and strength. Generic? Uh, no.. The singles run was deserved for 21. If that was so easy to do, everyone would be doing it. It's not. Also, she has a unique voice and a way of delivering her songs emotively that is also different. She is an artist. These were her songs, coming from her, and interpreted vocally her way. She is an original. Now, why is this album selling so well? it's coming off of a very long hiatus and people missing her and still having the hype from the last album, much like Gaga with BTW coming off of The Fame Monster. It's built-in sales. I haven't heard the album yet, except a few songs. So I can't comment on 25. Back to Why Adele? Do you know how many times I've heard the same variation of that question posed regarding Gaga, people calling her music generic pop, that she does outlandish things to make up for weak pop songs with a few good ones on each album, on and on, Opinions about great music are just that, opinions and subjective. So your opinion is an opinion. Plus, often many people come at many artists with an inherent bias because of the music or artist they love. My opinion is she became huge because 21 was brilliant and different from what was out there. So the thirst was huge for the new album after all of this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusBlackStar 1,301 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 For those who don't feel like reading, my main response is that I think she was in the right place at the right time with the right voice. That's why. For those interested in what I'm saying below, enjoy: I agree with the people who said that she exploded in the midst of the highest point of all the outrageous displays that happened after Gaga changed the game in 2009. I think that point in time helped her a good bit. By the second half of 2011 a ton of the pop girls were trying to have their own thing going on like what Gaga did. Nicki was wearing chains and stuffed animals and Katy was literally wearing a cube on her head. Meanwhile Gaga moved on from that and was Jo Calderone the entire time. Adele performed at the awards show and slayed cuz "Someone Like You" was on the radio after "Rolling in the Deep" came and killed everything in sight. She was like a contrast to all of that over the top exhibitionism and people loved that she still sold tons of records and was big in the industry without needing some sort of gimmick. Today though I think the divide between finely crafted music and big visual displays is settling down and closing up. Other than the production quality of the songs and some subtle changes to the timbre of her voice post-surgery, she hasn't really changed much artistically. I feel that artists who sing and JUST sing (maybe write a little too) have to set themselves apart from other artists who JUST sing by showing how they interpret a melody. To me that's their artistry. Adam Lambert was an awesome interpreter of songs on American Idol and use what he could do to build off of that. I think Adele should do more covers and put that Adele magic that has everyone jizzing everywhere for her in to well-known songs so that when people listen to a song they can be like "OMG Adele's version of the song blah blah blah different from so and so's version." That even makes it kind of fun to see how artists do songs. Take "The Other Woman" for example. Nina Simone has a version, Jeff Buckley has a version, and Lana Del Rey has a version. They're all different and are stamped with that artist's style. I think this is what Adele should start doing now that she has built up a major platform for herself as a singer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Anatomy 2,284 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Your fave said it best, "Sometimes the simplest move is right." Most of her contemporaries parade around in skimpy outfits, have over the top visuals, and over produced music. The General Public is getting tired of that trend. Sometimes they don't want club banging *** poppin ART--POP. Sometimes they want something easy to LISTEN to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 18 hours ago, Nino said: I explained why not, at least for me The problem has so much more to do with the vanity of the industry though. She works with "tired" writers and producers, sings averagely, and relies on retro-inspired songs to sell records.Things that aren't sin, but all other pop stars religiously get dragged for doing. What a joke? Who is your fave? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 1 minute ago, just4fun said: What a joke? Who is your fave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 50 minutes ago, Nino said: Your reply isn't representative of anything relevant to this topic. I literally asked "why adele", I wanted an answer, not pathethetic hate-obssessed losers to come in and try to defend or judge Adele. It's not my fault that you can't read well enough to understand. If I wanted to say anything bad on Adele or her success I would fan the flames of the many who replied with bitterness and jealousy You questioning Adele's success and talent is you saying something bad about Adele. Whether directly or indirectly, you are bashing Adele. Don't try and give me some sort of lesson here when clearly you're just upset that my original reply to your thread was me expressing my hatred for people like you. I didn't have to give you a direct answer to the question you were trying to present. I expressed myself the same way you expressed yourself. So take a seat and don't come for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 1 minute ago, LDR said: You questioning Adele's success and talent is you saying something bad about Adele. Whether directly or indirectly, you are bashing Adele. Don't try and give me some sort of lesson here when clearly you're just upset that my original reply to your thread was me expressing my hatred for people like you. I didn't have to give you a direct answer to the question you were trying to present. I expressed myself the same way you expressed yourself. So take a seat and don't come for me. I asked a place where fans of pop music gather why Adele has so many fans. Every new reply of yours is just getting worse and more removed from reality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 12 minutes ago, Nino said: I asked a place where fans of pop music gather why Adele has so many fans. Every new reply of yours is just getting worse and more removed from reality Then stop soliciting a reply :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssenceOfPop 215 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 3 hours ago, LDR said: I'm getting so tired of these threads. Everyone was DYING for new Adele music, and as soon as she makes the biggest album of all time, people are going straight into their "why her" mindsets. Same **** happened with Taylor Swift. Everyone on this site was excited and interested in her new pop sound, most people loved the album the first week, and then she just became a huge target of ridicule because her album was the record-breaking album that year. it's so sickening that you people can't pipe down and let an artist be successful. You sitting here typing up your essay on how Adele doesn't deserve her success isn't going to convince 2.5 million people to return her albums. Adele is a beautiful singer with a lovely personality. She deserves the success and I'm glad the world is giving it to her. She's not problematic, over-the-top, or too boring. And that's that. Thank you. These people need several seats. Lol, they're trying to say Adele "misused" her vocals... Lol, no henny. Through the fire; we're born again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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