Leonard Poh 81 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Let me start out by saying, you should read the comments on Billboard regarding Lady Gaga being Billboard's Woman of the year report. HereAfter reading the comments, I still realize things have yet to change since day 1 that people are still comparing. It is both ways that haters compare Gaga to other or Little Monsters compare to others. Comments after comments, essays after essays. I wondered when will it come to an end. Popularity does not determine an artist talent.Sales does not determine an artist talent.Number of awards does not determine an artist talent.Followers does not determine an artist talent.Praises does not deter mine an artist talent.Good reviews does not determine an artist talent. What really matters is the fans being the appreciator of those artists. When someone wants to hate let them hate. No one is able to entertain every single one of us on earth. I am tired of haters but they are never tired hating, so why bother? If we believe that someone has the talent, it does not really matter how the world view it, I just want to simply appreciate one fine entertainer I knew and grew up with. I don't have any of the 80's music icon. I am happy of Gaga's talent. One person's talent will surpasses many things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister max 18,480 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I was also thinking about this, althought a lot of people now see gaga as a strong woman with a lot of talent some people still see here as a lip-singing b---h who does everything to get attention Buy ARTPOP on itunes or smth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallus 1,525 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Haters gonna hate hate hate it but... TS all rights.. managment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Agreed. I'm sick of reading "X is better because she sold more than Y."It's great when someone hits an achievement, but it does nothing to indicate whether the song/album in question is any good, or whether the artist will have any longevity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip 5,100 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think awards kind of represent talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Poh 81 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think awards kind of represent talentWell, is something commendable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,836 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think awards kind of represent talentWhen "Anaconda" can beat "See You Again" they don't. 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 "Popularity does not determine an artist talent.Sales does not determine an artist talent.Number of awards does not determine an artist talent.Followers does not determine an artist talent.Praises does not deter mine an artist talent.Good reviews does not determine an artist talent."All of those are true, but when you have popularity, sales, awards, followers, praise, and good reviews, you probably are talented. I can't name many artists with all those things that genuinely lack talent. Most importantly though, I think talent is about your abilities and what you've worked to achieve. Gaga's talked about this too in her interview with Marina."LG: It’s unfortunate, Marina, that people don’t see the difference between the words elite and disciplined. MA: Wait, this is very interesting. Elite and disciplined, explain to me.LG: Elite and disciplined are so different, right? But in society, with the young generation, they associate them with the same thing. If you are viewing young people the way they are right now, I feel like there’s a tremendous sense of lack of responsibility, as well as a lack of interest in working hard for a common goal. And working hard in the space of art seems almost futile, like how would that be lucrative for a young person, to focus on their art? Where’s the page in the book that’s telling them that focusing on their work will be lucrative? For example, if someone were to come to your school, you don’t have to give the impression that the art is elite, but you do have to give the impression that it requires discipline. How do you then challenge a young person to see your art in a way that has discipline but not a tone of elitist knowledge? Does that make sense? It’s such a beautiful experience to go into the space of performance art, the long duration of work from it being a conceptual idea and then actually doing it and it becoming a reality. That’s a transition. What you’re saying is that it belongs to everyone, but what I’m saying is everyone shouldn’t feel that it’s easy to acquire. http://www.propagaga.com/2013/08/17/lady-gagas-full-v85-interview-with-marina-abramovic/ So it's not necessarily about the things you listed as not important, but it's also not about fans being appreciators of the artist. it's about an artist taking their talents and really applying themselves to what they're creating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip 5,100 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 When "Anaconda" can beat "See You Again" they don't. You're right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,836 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 You're right Sadly 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Poh 81 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 "Popularity does not determine an artist talent.Sales does not determine an artist talent.Number of awards does not determine an artist talent.Followers does not determine an artist talent.Praises does not deter mine an artist talent.Good reviews does not determine an artist talent."All of those are true, but when you have popularity, sales, awards, followers, praise, and good reviews, you probably are talented. I can't name many artists with all those things that genuinely lack talent. Most importantly though, I think talent is about your abilities and what you've worked to achieve. Gaga's talked about this too in her interview with Marina."LG: It’s unfortunate, Marina, that people don’t see the difference between the words elite and disciplined. MA: Wait, this is very interesting. Elite and disciplined, explain to me.LG: Elite and disciplined are so different, right? But in society, with the young generation, they associate them with the same thing. If you are viewing young people the way they are right now, I feel like there’s a tremendous sense of lack of responsibility, as well as a lack of interest in working hard for a common goal. And working hard in the space of art seems almost futile, like how would that be lucrative for a young person, to focus on their art? Where’s the page in the book that’s telling them that focusing on their work will be lucrative? For example, if someone were to come to your school, you don’t have to give the impression that the art is elite, but you do have to give the impression that it requires discipline. How do you then challenge a young person to see your art in a way that has discipline but not a tone of elitist knowledge? Does that make sense? It’s such a beautiful experience to go into the space of performance art, the long duration of work from it being a conceptual idea and then actually doing it and it becoming a reality. That’s a transition. What you’re saying is that it belongs to everyone, but what I’m saying is everyone shouldn’t feel that it’s easy to acquire. http://www.propagaga.com/2013/08/17/lady-gagas-full-v85-interview-with-marina-abramovic/ So it's not necessarily about the things you listed as not important, but it's also not about fans being appreciators of the artist. it's about an artist taking their talents and really applying themselves to what they're creating. So much in agreement. Thanks for showing another dimension which I had not consider. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,836 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Tbh the reason that Gaga isn't as popular as she used to be is because her music just keeps getting more complex and experience driven. At this point in her career, unless you're already a die hard fan, you can't truly appreciate her music for what it is. If you started listening to her in the ARTPOP era it'd be like starting a movie half an hour in. The songs are rooted in things like her s-xual abuse, the negative press, the cancellation of the Born This Way Ball, breaking her hip, a dependence on d--gs and alcohol, her relationships, how she views herself, and if you don't know all of that and aren't willing to really see it all for what it really is then The sad fact is that the majority of people don't care about all of that. They just want fun, pointless music to listen to. While it still requires some degree of talent to craft that brand of music, I could never even consider it being on the same level of what Gaga's shown she's capable of. In a few years I know I'll forget songs in the vein of Shake it Off and Roar but I'll never forget Dope encouraging me to make up with a friend or raging to Swine and thinking about the past. I'll never forget singing Hair as loud as I could with one of my best friends. That's the stuff that really matters. Being able to create magic and memories like that. But that's just my take on it 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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