Palestinians set holy Christian and Jewish site on fire

[Pandemiya 61]

I never said they should go to the US.. I said that if you and other jews claim that the reason for occupation was to have a safe heaven, then they can get a save heaven elsewhere as they are extremely and insanely supported by the west. Jews will never have a safe land if they continue acting this way.

I find it quite disgusting that you say "Jews" as if it's all of us...

And don't you even act as if the Arabs are innocent. Israel has only belonged to us from eternity, it was never an Arab state, never a muslim country, and you nor anyone else will ever change that. "Palestinians" have absolutely no historical claim to Israel besides Samaritans. Even then, Arabs populated most of the Samaritan cities.

[Melech 9,900]

I never said they should go to the US.. I said that if you and other jews claim that the reason for occupation was to have a safe heaven, then they can get a save heaven elsewhere as they are extremely and insanely supported by the west. Jews will never have a safe land if they continue acting this way.

No you give all Jews the fault for Israels action? gurl

 

[MonsterOfSpain 8,331]

one state would be fatal. Jews wouldn't have a save heaven anymore

That's why I've never understood Israel. Why do Jews have their own state in the 21st century? Is their society really that close? I don't think there would be many problems if they moved to Europe or America. But creating a state just for people of a determinate religion never got into my mind.. and yes, I know the historic context and maybe it was ok in the 20th century, but today a state like Israel is not necessary anymore imo.

[Melech 9,900]

That's why I've never understood Israel. Why do Jews have their own state in the 21st century? Is their society really that close? I don't think there would be many problems if they moved to Europe or America. But creating a state just for people of a determinate religion never got into my mind.. and yes, I know the historic context and maybe it was ok in the 20th century, but today a state like Israel is not necessary anymore imo.

That was actually anti-semitic because you deny anti-semitism. It's on the rise in every part of the world   (there are 17 million Jews in the world, without all the genocides and forced conversion there would be over 250 million) 

[mmm 879]

 

Al Quds was first a church built by the Byzantine Empire. Before? Right. It was Temple Mount (the first and only holy sacred site to Judaism). But islam? Second? You mean third. But that's only nothing more than a false claim, in fact the mosque was built 80 years after Muhammed died. He never entered Jerusalem. Jerusalem has only been the capital of Israel since the beginning of history. Never has a state by the name of "Palestine" existed. Israel existed as a kingdom in 1300 BCE. The word Palestine? Oh, right. It comes from Greeks from the island of Crete that the Israelites named "pelestim", plural for invaders. Romans took that name and renamed Roman Provincia Judaea to Provincia Syria-Palaestina, as an act for wiping Jewish identity with the land by naming it after the Israelites' two greatest enemies. Philistines and Assyrians. Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are not clueless about their history, they are simply nothing more than descendants of invading Arab Rashidun Caliphate when the caliphate was spreading after the death of Muhammed. Spreading lies about the subject isn't going to help. There is nothing to "free", if that land (truly called Judea and Samaria) became "Palestine", it would end up like any other Arab country. :)

Im not spreading lies as you claim because I dont talk or care about history and what happened billions of years ago.. what matters is our standards today to what morality is and what israel did with palestine was wrong. Trying to erase the existence of the palestinians wont help and is wrong because these people are not a piece of legal paper that allows you to do your crimes.. they are human beings! Jersusalem was not even for the jews, the jews stole it and killed the people inside the city and claimed it their own. Your also trying to claim that the Mosque is not considered holy to muslims but it is because muslims during the prophets life face the Alaqsa mosque in each prayer until it was changed to mecca and the prophet traveled to jerusalem and talked to god in Alaqsa mosque and it was mentioned many times in the Quran.

[MonsterOfSpain 8,331]

That was actually anti-semitic because you deny anti-semitism. It's on the rise in every part of the world   (there are 17 million Jews in the world, without all the genocides and forced conversion there would be over 250 million) 

Maybe there is anti-semitism cause they see them as a close society who doesn't allow other people in. If they mixed with people from other countries, cultures and religions I think their situation would be much different. I personally wouldn't have any problems with jews living in my region.

[politicqxs 358]

"Palestinian" is nothing more than a nationality. They are not indigenous to Israel. The only ones that are are Samaritans and those are just the peoples from Nablus and Samaria. None others. All other "Palestinian cities" are inhabited by descendants of Arab invaders from the Rashidun Caliphate. 

You're poorly educated.

Al Quds was first a church built by the Byzantine Empire. Before? Right. It was Temple Mount (the first and only holy sacred site to Judaism). But islam? Second? You mean third. But that's only nothing more than a false claim, in fact the mosque was built 80 years after Muhammed died. He never entered Jerusalem. Jerusalem has only been the capital of Israel since the beginning of history. Never has a state by the name of "Palestine" existed. Israel existed as a kingdom in 1300 BCE. The word Palestine? Oh, right. It comes from Greeks from the island of Crete that the Israelites named "pelestim", plural for invaders. Romans took that name and renamed Roman Provincia Judaea to Provincia Syria-Palaestina, as an act for wiping Jewish identity with the land by naming it after the Israelites' two greatest enemies. Philistines and Assyrians. Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are not clueless about their history, they are simply nothing more than descendants of invading Arab Rashidun Caliphate when the caliphate was spreading after the death of Muhammed. Spreading lies about the subject isn't going to help. There is nothing to "free", if that land (truly called Judea and Samaria) became "Palestine", it would end up like any other Arab country. :)

that's like saying America should be given back to the native Americans..

[Pandemiya 61]

Im not spreading lies as you claim because I dont talk or care about history and what happened billions of years ago.. what matters is our standards today to what morality is and what israel did with palestine was wrong. Trying to erase the existence of the palestinians wont help and is wrong because these people are not a piece of legal paper that allows you to do your crimes.. they are human beings! Jersusalem was not even for the jews, the jews stole it and killed the people inside the city and claimed it their own. Your also trying to claim that the Mosque is not considered holy to muslims but it is because muslims during the prophets life face the Alaqsa mosque in each prayer until it was changed to mecca and the prophet traveled to jerusalem and talked to god in Alaqsa mosque and it was mentioned many times in the Quran.

But palestinians aren't real. It is not an ethnic group. It is just a nationality label that people use. There is virtually no difference between Lebanese, Syrian, or Palestinian. It's all political. :)

Where's your proof that "Jews killed and stole Jerusalem from Palestinians"? that has got to be the funniest bull**** I've ever seen. I'm sure you wish that that was true. That mosque isn't the one featured in the quran. Muhammed never once visited Jerusalem. Sorry but this is just funny. If you're going to argue, please have accurate and true statements.

That's why I've never understood Israel. Why do Jews have their own state in the 21st century? Is their society really that close? I don't think there would be many problems if they moved to Europe or America. But creating a state just for people of a determinate religion never got into my mind.. and yes, I know the historic context and maybe it was ok in the 20th century, but today a state like Israel is not necessary anymore imo.

We have the right to live in our ancestral homeland. Your last statement is disgusting. 

[Melech 9,900]

Maybe there is anti-semitism cause they see them as a close society who doesn't allow other people in. If they mixed with people from other countries, cultures and religions I think their situation would be much different. I personally wouldn't have any problems with jews living in my region.

Jews mixed with people, that's why there are so many different looks on Jews, which is amazing in my opinion! Jews did assimilate in especially Germany back in the last century and we all know what happened. 

By the way isn't it double standard expecting Jews to do that? When you could say that about every other ethnicity? 

[Pandemiya 61]

that's like saying America should be given back to the native Americans..

And what's wrong with that?

Native Americans deserve their country back.

 

[mmm 879]

I find it quite disgusting that you say "Jews" as if it's all of us...

And don't you even act as if the Arabs are innocent. Israel has only belonged to us from eternity, it was never an Arab state, never a muslim country, and you nor anyone else will ever change that. "Palestinians" have absolutely no historical claim to Israel besides Samaritans. Even then, Arabs populated most of the Samaritan cities.

You can find it disgusting as much as you want and over react but you know exactly what I meant.. and Israel did not belong to the jews, they stole it and killed everyone inside while claiming it theirs because god told them they were the chosen people. Also what happened billions of years ago doesnt matter!! do you support the native Americans to occupy America, Canada, Brazil, Mexico.. same with Australia and south africa and almost the whole world? a WW3 would happen!

[Pandemiya 61]

You can find it disgusting as much as you want and over react but you know exactly what I meant.. and Israel did not belong to the jews, they stole it and killed everyone inside while claiming it theirs because god told them they were the chosen people. Also what happened billions of years ago doesnt matter!! do you support the native Americans to occupy America, Canada, Brazil, Mexico.. same with Australia and south africa and almost the whole world? a WW3 would happen!

This has got to be the FUNNIEST thing I've ever read.

Hey guys, apparently Israel never belonged to us. Never. Right?

Let's just take a look at all this "fake" proof:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-is-beneath-the-temple-mount-920764/?no-ist

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/archdiscovery2013.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28162671/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/jewish-archaeological-discoveries/ This is only a few of thousands of artifacts and archeological items discovered in our land.

If Palestine was "always" a real country and state, why is there 0 archeological evidence of the people from this area calling themselves a palestinian? that's right, because no one ever called themselves this until 1927 when the British occupied the area and named it after the roman name "British Mandate of Palestine"... And just try to find so-called "palestinian" artifacts that are ancient. The only items with the word palestine on it is currency and passports from the BRITISH mandate. Sorry, but if you're going to argue, again, please have your facts. No, we never stole anything from anyone. No, we never committed genocide to anyone. 60% of Jewish founding populations of Israel were Mizrahi (Israelite descent, what I am) so don't even bring up the "Jews r from europe!!111" If you wanna talk about the nakbah, I'm all ears. 95% of the Arab populations left on their own because "selling land to a Jew" is the greatest muslim sin, therefore they left on their own. 

[mmm 879]

But palestinians aren't real. It is not an ethnic group. It is just a nationality label that people use. There is virtually no difference between Lebanese, Syrian, or Palestinian. It's all political. :)

Where's your proof that "Jews killed and stole Jerusalem from Palestinians"? that has got to be the funniest bull**** I've ever seen. I'm sure you wish that that was true. That mosque isn't the one featured in the quran. Muhammed never once visited Jerusalem. Sorry but this is just funny. If you're going to argue, please have accurate and true statements.

We have the right to live in our ancestral homeland. Your last statement is disgusting. 

And there is no difference between Austrians and Germans so does this mean we can occupy Germany and say that German people arent even real? I also never said jews took and stoke jerusalem from palestinians.. what I said was they took it from the Canaanites after they left egypt and killed everyone inside that city by the command of god because jews were the chosen people. Do you want me to give you a verse from the Quran that actually says Alaqsa mosque?
 

[Pandemiya 61]

And there is no difference between Austrians and Germans so does this mean we can occupy Germany and say that German people arent even real? I also never said jews took and stoke jerusalem from palestinians.. what I said was they took it from the Canaanites after they left egypt and killed everyone inside that city by the command of god because jews were the chosen people. Do you want me to give you a verse from the Quran that actually says Alaqsa mosque?

The Israelites were cousins of the Canaanites. We never stole anything from them, yes it is inscribed in the Torah as an invasion, but there is 0 archeological evidence that proves it. But you know what? We could talk about how the true Lebanese Canaanites were wiped out by Arabs not even 60-70 years ago. And I don't care what it's called in the quran, because the original quran's name for that mosque meant "furthest", not "JERUSALEM MOSQUE". Muhammed never stepped foot into Jerusalem once, and the "Dome of the Rock" was originally a Byzantine Church built RIGHT on top of the ancient holy Temple Mount EIGHTY years after he died. When the Rashidun caliphate invaded Israel, Umar Rashidun changed the structure of the building a little bit to make it resemble a mosque. Jerusalem was not a Canaanite city, Jericho was. And we did not come from Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were black African Cushites. We came from Ur of Chaldees (not sure what the modern-day location is called, but lower Iraq).

[mmm 879]

The Israelites were cousins of the Canaanites. We never stole anything from them, yes it is inscribed in the Torah as an invasion, but there is 0 archeological evidence that proves it. But you know what? We could talk about how the true Lebanese Canaanites were wiped out by Arabs not even 60-70 years ago. And I don't care what it's called in the quran, because the original quran's name for that mosque meant "furthest", not "JERUSALEM MOSQUE". Muhammed never stepped foot into Jerusalem once, and the "Dome of the Rock" was originally a Byzantine Church built RIGHT on top of the ancient holy Temple Mount EIGHTY years after he died. When the Rashidun caliphate invaded Israel, Umar Rashidun changed the structure of the building a little bit to make it resemble a mosque. Jerusalem was not a Canaanite city, Jericho was. And we did not come from Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were black African Cu****es. We came from Ur of Chaldees (not sure what the modern-day location is called, but lower Iraq).

Israel was first for ancient egypt and then the canaanites and then the jews took it by committing genocide against the canaanites. Here is your proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FspfOI_YRU

And thats why we shouldnt talk about history because you want everyone to believe your side of history and you cherry pick what you want.. everyone was immoral at that time and we shouldnt base our morality on people who lived billion of years before us. Your sounding more and more like hitler the more you talk about race!!