FATCAT 60,100 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No rock or metal for LG5 sorry.All this effort to renew her image and then suddenly another even floppier album? LolI'm sorry, but while I agree a non-pop album would go against her 'renewing image' period, you don't know that it would flop. C2C did a LOT better than most believed it would. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 The Pretty Reckless is satisfying my female fronted hard rock needs at the moment. I definatly would love Gaga to go in a more rock direction, but more like her angelic vocals over a guitar and piano rock base with electronic and industrial elements added in. Pretty much like the Fallon ARTPOP performance amped up another level. I think that would be legit groundbreaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No rock or metal for LG5 sorry.All this effort to renew her image and then suddenly another even floppier album? Lolnot a single thing she's done "renewing" her image has anything to do with modern pop. In fact she's accomplished it by staying far away from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,851 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 teases metalga, comes back in full Candy Warhol realness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 teases metalga, comes back in full Candy Warhol realness Omg I'd love that too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Loooove me some Evanescence though! They were actually one of two bands (the other was Within Temptation) that got me into metal music. And Evanescence specifically got me through some tough times That's another thing I like about rock/metal music, the lyrics often deal with lots of heavy emotion in a sense that.. they're allowed. The song doesn't have to end with a "but hey, I'm fine and tomorrow's a new day" lyric or whatever. Which is why Evanescence's album Fallen had such a big impact on me, it was the first album that made me accept the feeling of: "I'm going under" without trying to hide or soften it. In that sense the genre really offers something few other genres can. If you're up for it of course. I guess it does demand a special sort of personality to want to listen to songs that don't try to make you feel better Which is why Gaga won't go there at this point of her career. I don't think that's what she wants for her fans. Hmm, never really thought about it that way I still jam out to Evanescence. (Seriously. Like. All the time.) Amy Lee is absolutely wonderful. Incredible voice, great personality, genuine lyrics. She's also got a really funny sense of humor. I recently learned that "Hello" is about when she learned that her little sister died in elementary school. Broke my heart. I wonder if an Evanescence style song would work for Gaga? When I picture her doing rock I feel I don't get an Amy Lee vibe, but of course I'd love to see her try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 I still jam out to Evanescence. (Seriously. Like. All the time.) Amy Lee is absolutely wonderful. Incredible voice, great personality, genuine lyrics. She's also got a really funny sense of humor. I recently learned that "Hello" is about when she learned that her little sister died in elementary school. Broke my heart. I wonder if an Evanescence style song would work for Gaga? When I picture her doing rock I feel I don't get an Amy Lee vibe, but of course I'd love to see her try. I think it's because Amy's voice sounds so.. elegantly doom-filled, I mean it's so deep and solemn and even when she's singing in a soft sweet tone, like in Swimming Home, her voice has this instant atmospheric quality to it that Gaga just don't has. I mean, I surely can't imagine Amy Lee doing a Gaga style song either It's nice to see how different vocalists really do come up with their own sound aesthetic that's sort of unique. You really need a Gaga-esque or an Amy-esque voice to properly pull off those songs. I also think Gaga just is more natural in a less emotional (at least in that doomy sense of Evanescence) and a more energetic, hard rock/glam musical setting like she already demonstrated with King of Pain, If I Ever Lose My Faith in You, What's Up,... she can bring such a raw, stadium-like energy to those songs that's just unabashedly inspiring in an uplifting sense. Then again, songs like Dope and Till It Happens to You show that she can definitely pull off some almost troubling soundscapes of pure emotion as well. I'd love to hear more of that because it's really a vocal sound she hasn't used that much. I think the "trouble" with Gaga is, compared to Amy anyway, that her song compositions are usually very focused on all of the instruments mashed together and some of Amy's best compositions are really entirely carried by the vocals. The song you mentioned, Hello.. that piano instrumental is entirely in support of the melody that Amy has to carry completely on her own. I think Dope is the only example of Gaga's discography that uses this technique as well, and Till It Happens to You too. I'm very excited to see if Gaga will let her future songs be carried by her own distinct, powerful vocal melodies this time instead of her vocals not exactly taking a backseat but not being the strongest instrument of the bunch (which she herself expressed is true for her pre-C2C discography). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've been listening to glam rock since I was below the age of five and I can't hear it, no. When there's not even an audible electric guitar melody, riff, something except an acoustic guitar in the post-chorus for a few seconds, only twice in the song, & since futuristic elements never are part of glam rock (nor are the electric ones she chose), I seriously doubt you even know what you're talking about. I mean, even the live versions which were filled with an electric guitar sound (as a support of course, not as a main instrument) didn't sound like glam rock at all. But feel free to educate me, I love being proven wrong The opening vocals, the backing "to the planet", the stops, it's mostly vocal, but you can't honestly say that it doesn't have glam rock influence just because there's no electric guitar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 The opening vocals, the backing "to the planet", the stops, it's mostly vocal, but you can't honestly say that it doesn't have glam rock influence just because there's no electric guitar. Well, then explain to me how a "to the planet" passage that is taken from a jazz fusion album and the vocals are glam rock influenced. I'm not saying it doesn't have any glam rock influence because there's no electric guitar in it, I'm saying I can't hear it anywhere because I don't recognize any elements. If you can provide me with some examples of glam rock songs you think show what you mean, I'd be happy to listen to them though But as of now, I could easily reply with: "No, those backings, the opening vocals and the stops are really influenced by disco" (which in all realisticness sure sounds a lot more convincing than saying Gaga got her ideas from glam rock). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 No rock or metal for LG5 sorry. All this effort to renew her image and then suddenly another even floppier album? Lol How do you define a "flop" album? Are you basing it on how many teens bop to it, critical acclaim, sales, or something else? On Metacritic here are the genres of the Top 20 Albums of All Time based on their Metascore: 1. Jazz2. Rock/Pop3. Country4. Rap5. Rock, Pop6. Rap7. R&B, Soul, Funk8. Pop, Rap, Pop/Rock, Midwest Rap, Pop-Rap9. World10. Indie, Rap11. Rock, Alternative, Live12. Rock13. Folk, Singer-Songwriter14. Pop/Rock, Alternative/Indie Rock, Alternative Pop/Rock15. Pop/Rock, Roots Rock16. Pop/Rock, Alternative/Indie Rock, Post-Rock, Heavy Metal, Black Metal17. Rock18. Electronic, Rap19. R&B20. Pop/Rock, Heavy Metal Huh. Not a single just "Pop" album. Some Pop/Rock, though."Pop" is listed on 7 of them."Rock/Metal" on 10. But that's the critics, you may say, and they're biased against Pop. So let's look at the Top 20 Albums of All Time based on User Score. 1. Pop/Rock2. Rock, Alternative3. Indie, Pop4. Indie, Rock, Electronic5. Rock, Alternative, Metal6. Dance, Electronic7. Rock, Electronic, Alternative8. Rock, Pop, Alternative9. Electronic, Alternative10. Indie Rock, Neo-Psychedelia11. Pop, Electronic, Pop/Rock, Dance-Pop, Club/Dance, Electro12. Electronic13. Rock, Alternative14. Dance, Electronic, Alternative15. Indie, Rock16. Dance, Electronic17. Rock, Alternative, Folk18. Indie, Rock19. Rock, Folk20. Rock "Pop" is listed on 4 of them."Rock/Metal" on 14. But no one cares about those albums, you may say, and people can't name them because they're being rated by the type of person who'd have an account on Metacritic. So let's go to Wikipedia and check out the list of Best Selling Albums of All Time. 1. Michael Jackson - Pop, Rock, R&B2. AC/DC - Hard Rock3. Pink Floyd - Progressive Rock4. Whitney Houston/Various Artists - Soundtrack/R&B, Soul, Pop5. Meat Loaf - Hard Rock, Progressive Rock6. Eagles - Rock, Soft Rock, Folk Rock7. Bee Gees/Various Artists - Disco8. Fleetwood Mac - Soft Rock9. Shania Twain - Country, Pop10. Led Zeppelin - Hard Rock, Heavy Metal11. Spice Girls - Pop12. Alanis Morissette - Alternative Rock13. Celine Dion - Pop/ Soft Rock14. The Beatles - Rock15. Eagles - Rock, Soft Rock, Folk Rock16. Mariah Carey - Pop/R&B/Rock17. Various Artists - Pop, Rock, R&B18. Celine Dion - Pop/Soft Rock19. The Beatles - Rock20. Adele - Pop, Soul "Pop" is listed on 9 of them."Rock/Metal" on 15. But some of those albums are so old, you may say, and interest in music has changed so POP is most relevant. So let's look at Billboards Top Selling Albums of 2014. 1. Frozen - Pop, Musical Theater2. Beyonce - Alternative R&B, Pop3. Taylor Swift - Pop, Dance-Pop, Synthpop4. One Direction - Pop, Pop Rock5. Eminem - Hip Hop6. Lorde - Dream Pop, Electronica, Electropop7. Luke Bryan - Country8. Katy Perry - Pop9. Garth Brooks - Country10. Florida Georgia Line - Bro-Country11. Sam Smith - Pop, Soul12. Imagine Dragons - Rock13. Eric Church - Country, Southern Rock14. Coldplay - Pop, Synthpop, Ambient15. Various Artists - Mix of stuff, Mostly Pop/Rap (Now 50)16. Brantley Gilbert - Country, Rock, Country Rock17. Kelly Clarkson - Christmas, Pop, Jazz, Country, Soul18. The Robertsons - Christmas19. Soundtrack - Mix of stuff, Mostly Rock/Soul (Guardians of the Galaxy)20. Barbra Streisand - Traditional Pop, Vocal Music "Pop" is listed on 9 of them."Rock/Metal" on 5. Drat. Looks like Pop is more relevant now. I can only dream that Gaga's next album will be as iconic and memorable as One Directions 2014 Album, Now 50, or Duck Dynasty's Christmas album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think it's because Amy's voice sounds so.. elegantly doom-filled, I mean it's so deep and solemn and even when she's singing in a soft sweet tone, like in Swimming Home, her voice has this instant atmospheric quality to it that Gaga just don't has. I mean, I surely can't imagine Amy Lee doing a Gaga style song either It's nice to see how different vocalists really do come up with their own sound aesthetic that's sort of unique. You really need a Gaga-esque or an Amy-esque voice to properly pull off those songs. I also think Gaga just is more natural in a less emotional (at least in that doomy sense of Evanescence) and a more energetic, hard rock/glam musical setting like she already demonstrated with King of Pain, If I Ever Lose My Faith in You, What's Up,... she can bring such a raw, stadium-like energy to those songs that's just unabashedly inspiring in an uplifting sense. Then again, songs like Dope and Till It Happens to You show that she can definitely pull off some almost troubling soundscapes of pure emotion as well. I'd love to hear more of that because it's really a vocal sound she hasn't used that much. I think the "trouble" with Gaga is, compared to Amy anyway, that her song compositions are usually very focused on all of the instruments mashed together and some of Amy's best compositions are really entirely carried by the vocals. The song you mentioned, Hello.. that piano instrumental is entirely in support of the melody that Amy has to carry completely on her own. I think Dope is the only example of Gaga's discography that uses this technique as well, and Till It Happens to You too. I'm very excited to see if Gaga will let her future songs be carried by her own distinct, powerful vocal melodies this time instead of her vocals not exactly taking a backseat but not being the strongest instrument of the bunch (which she herself expressed is true for her pre-C2C discography). I completely agree, and I especially agree with Gaga having an energetic, hard rock/glam musical setting. Highway Unicorn is a song that seems like such a stadium rock song to me. And let's not forget about her 4 Non-Blondes cover! That was amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 How do you define a "flop" album? Are you basing it on how many teens bop to it, critical acclaim, sales, or something else? On Metacritic here are the genres of the Top 20 Albums of All Time based on their Metascore: Hidden Content Huh. Not a single just "Pop" album. Some Pop/Rock, though."Pop" is listed on 7 of them."Rock/Metal" on 10. But that's the critics, you may say, and they're biased against Pop. So let's look at the Top 20 Albums of All Time based on User Score. Hidden Content "Pop" is listed on 4 of them."Rock/Metal" on 14. But no one cares about those albums, you may say, and people can't name them because they're being rated by the type of person who'd have an account on Metacritic. So let's go to Wikipedia and check out the list of Best Selling Albums of All Time. Hidden Content "Pop" is listed on 9 of them."Rock/Metal" on 15. But some of those albums are so old, you may say, and interest in music has changed so POP is most relevant. So let's look at Billboards Top Selling Albums of 2014. Hidden Content "Pop" is listed on 9 of them."Rock/Metal" on 5. Drat. Looks like Pop is more relevant now. I can only dream that Gaga's next album will be as iconic and memorable as One Directions 2014 Album, Now 50, or Duck Dynasty's Christmas album. I love it when you do other people's homework and throw a little shade on the way. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpe 916 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Gaga is not a rock metal or whatever singer so don't get your ass in the clouds please I love it when you do other people's homework and throw a little shade on the way. you should take notes tbh MAKE IT WORK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusBlackStar 1,301 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I hope to God this is true.Even if it's not, thanks for compiling all this. It's nice to see all the recent rock and metal side of her coming out over the past year all in one place. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Gaga is not a rock metal or whatever singer so don't get your ass in the clouds please you should take notes tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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