Bt1 5,213 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 When i read Ryan Murphy's recent EW interview that how Gaga called him and told him that she wanted a role in AHS,it hit me how hard Gaga has been working to make a perfect comeback..(its not really a comeback,but i can't find any other word rn )..I mean,it all started with C2C album release.I know there were already plans for the album since 2012 but it was released after ARTPOP.Anyway,moving on,She went on a critically acclaimed tour with a Jazz Legend,even got a Grammy for this.I don't remember exactly but i think it was Gaga's team who approached to the Oscar producers and asked them to let her perform(don't kill me if i'm wrong)..and then her trying to get a role in one of the most popular TV shows!! Recently it was also revealed that it was her team who reached out to The Hollywood Foreign Press Association,not the other way around.Also,she's been keeping her looks to minimal and it'll be interesting for the fans and the public to see her go Avant Garde in AHS again.Its really fasicanating to know that Gaga and her team are working really hard to make her more likable to the public.ARTPOP really alienated her from casual listeners and ever since then they've been trying to show more human side of her. C2C album,C2C Tour,Grammy,Oscars,AHS,all these things are her way of winning over the public and reminding them that she's not going anywhere anytime soon and i think their hard work really paid off.Media is appreciating her talent now.no negative articles about her calling her a "has been" or what not.Not sure about what public think about her now but i'd like to believe that its positive.Making a perfect album,promoting it,writing concepts for the upcoming music videos,these are pretty big tasks in themselves but changing/mending ur image to reach out to more people needs a well thought out plan.She started working on this ever since ARTPOP underperformed and it shows her love and passion for her work ...and i think its very rare to see in an artist these days. No. It all make sense until AHS, which makes me think that AHS was something that she wanted to do personally. A non-musical tv show it wont have any impact on your music comeback and it doesnt help that her character isnt really on the route created by C2c, Grammys, Oscars. If you look at her recent interviews, that she wants to be compared to Iron Maiden, her comeback is really in the air. Its very unclear the route that she will take musically. Lets hope that she knows it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,447 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Your point?..You overrate Madonna's songs a lot, but I respect your opinion on them. Because that's what they are, o-p-i-n-i-o-n-s. Don't even try to come at Scheiße and ARTPOP with "it's the truth"? tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,447 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just brought her into the debate, because you guys always over praise what she's done a lot while bringing Gaga down Ray Of Light is indeed experimental and I give the respective respect it deserves. But discrediting Gaga's experimental songs is just atrocious. Everyone's entitled to their wrong opinion anyway no one claims that madonna songs are experimental tho (ray of light is more ""experimental" than anything gaga has done tho, since madonna is the topic suddenly) tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You overrate Madonna's songs a lot, but I respect your opinion on them. Because that's what they are, o-p-i-n-i-o-n-s. Don't even try to come at Scheiße and ARTPOP with "it's the truth"? you said these songs are experimental and I corrected you by saying that they are not. I don't understand what Madonna has to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just brought her into the debate, because you guys always over praise what she's done a lot while bringing Gaga down Ray Of Light is indeed experimental and I give the respective respect it deserves. But discrediting Gaga's experimental songs is just atrocious. Everyone's entitled to their wrong opinion anyway 1. ill leave that to jjang 2.ARTPOP and sheisse are not experimental but like you said Everyone's entitled to their wrong opinion (and its not even a n opinion a song is either experimental or its not ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,447 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 you said these songs are experimental and I corrected you by saying that they are not. I don't understand what Madonna has to do with it. "I corrected you" LMAO Leaving this mess since you guys can't have a nice debate without claiming your opinion is the ultimate truth. tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Let's steer this conversation back on track guys. This thread isn't about Madonna and how experimental/non-experimental her discography is.If you want to discuss that, it's best in the Madonna thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Let's steer this conversation back on track guys. This thread isn't about Madonna and how experimental/non-experimental her discography is.If you want to discuss that, it's best in the Madonna thread. I was just about to come here and say that LOL But yeah what Bebe said, this is about Gaga guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 "I corrected you" LMAO Leaving this mess since you guys can't have a nice debate without claiming your opinion is the ultimate truth. It's not up to your personal opinion whether they are experimental or not. They are pop hooks driven songs that share a common, basic song structure. There is nothing experimental about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagata 695 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I just want TIHTY have it own vid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I never noticed this before. Thank you for pointing this out. It really shows how her label has been extremely active in finding platforms to promote her and this is a healthy sign. Whether or not her label did this intentionally, they did it and I think this is regarded a prove that shows the capability and efficiency of Bobby and Gaga's management team. Bobby has the right and the onus to promote Gaga IN ANY WAY, that's his responsibility. He is a manager and he's under the marketing department.it is intentional, I'm studying public relations and believe me, no thing an artist/celebrity/singer does, is done without intention LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,734 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Reading that makes me agree but it also makes me sick. Is there a less appealing road after an era that was supposed to be about Gaga breaking free from all this unnecessary, tiring and hypocritical bs? "it shows her love and passion for her work" Disagree Success maybe. Anyway, I'm happy for her, but personally I feel like we might as well have skipped the ARTPOP era entirely 'cause nothing that she mentioned there survived in any possible shape or form. Fans change all the time too, during ARTPOP she was better than her competitors because she didn't care about success and now that success is back on the table they do the dance again & will lift her on a pedestal for making herself likeable for the public. As a fan who actually sincerely appreciated the message of ARTPOP in its core, that latter scenario would be disappointing to say the least. & I know that will sound like I'm a hater, but actually I just really loved the idea Gaga presented as the future of her career which is now disappearing (and you can't criticize me for that, so don't try). Actually it did survive. She broke away from every toxic person and now her artistry is first and foremost. She's in control completely. That was the point of ARTPOP. Being in control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Actually it did survive. She broke away from every toxic person and now her artistry is first and foremost. She's in control completely. That was the point of ARTPOP. Being in control Well, we'll see when her next pop album is released, I guess :air: Definitely hoping for what you describe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,173 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 it is intentional, I'm studying public relations and believe me, no thing an artist/celebrity/singer does, is done without intention Then I'm glad that they are this organized right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 26,311 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well, like Gaga said "who wants to be second?" Exactly. People need to realize that every artist wants to be successful, even the most indie, obscure act, and anyone saying otherwise is just full of ****. When you're an artist, you want your work to have the biggest impact possible. Otherwise, you just stay in your corner, work for yourself and don't put your art out to the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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