Rolling Stone's Top 100 Songwriters Of All Time Featuring Bullsh*t.

[Didymus 34,380]

Your interpretation was what you wrote after the quote. LOL OMG you can't possibly be this dense.

 

The part where you said, "That award has nothing to do with the quality of songwriting." 

It doesn't though. It literally doesn't. The award is for artist-songwriters (meaning: Gaga is eligible because she writes songs, but not Rihanna even though Rihanna obviously also attained an iconic status in pop culture) who achieved an iconic status in pop culture, as you quoted yourself. It doesn't matter if she's good or not, the fact that a songwriter made it to an icon is worthy of an award in itself.

I really don't see what's so impossible to understand about that. Jjang is right, the fact that Gaga got a Contemporary Icon award doesn't contradict with Gaga not being in this Top 100 at all.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Lemme rephrase that in a non stimulating manner : that award has very much to do with your status in the music industry and has very little to do with the actual quality of your songwriting as it directly states. It rewards songwriters for achieving an iconic status in pop culture.  

My point is still as valid as ever. And funny enough the paragraph you quoted proved what I'm saying. Stop embarrassing yourself, Gaga is not a better writer than any of the artists that are listed there.

You've already tried to argue with the fact that ROL brought EDM to the mainstream and failed miserably, why try to argue with facts again?

It does not state anywhere, "has very little to do with the actual quality of your songwriting." That is, not surprisingly, your interpretation of the award based the facts given. Interpretation of facts are based on personal biases, education level and background. Your negative bias of Lady Gaga is the only thing that shines in your comments. Why do you think lawyers interview jurors before a trial? Because personal biases directly impact the interpretations of facts. Can we end this conversation now?

 

[Jjang 2,262]

It does not state anywhere, "has very little to do with the actual quality of your songwriting." That is, not surprisingly, your interpretation of the award based the facts given. Interpretation of facts are based on personal biases, education level and background. Your negative bias of Lady Gaga is the only thing that shines in your comments. Why do you think lawyers interview jurors before a trial? Because personal biases directly impact the interpretations of facts. Can we end this conversation now?

 

Googling the definition of interpretation won't change the fact that the award is not based on the quality of songwriting.  Didy elaborated the essence of the award perfectly yet you're still as dense as a piece of wood.

[Yanko 9,860]

kanye west is a great songwriter. it would be great if you would ever actually name some reasons you hate everyone on this list. 

people are complaining that gaga should be here while they discredit kanye and eminem

like at least look at their lyrics   

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

It doesn't though. It literally doesn't. The award is for artist-songwriters (meaning: Gaga is eligible because she writes songs, but not Rihanna even though Rihanna obviously also attained an iconic status in pop culture) who achieved an iconic status in pop culture, as you quoted yourself. It doesn't matter if she's good or not, the fact that a songwriter made it to an icon is worthy of an award in itself.

I really don't see what's so impossible to understand about that. Jjang is right, the fact that Gaga got a Contemporary Icon award doesn't contradict with Gaga not being in this Top 100 at all.

I only stated that, "the interpretation of that the award has very little to do with songwriting ability is wrong". It's an award and there were other artists in the same category that didn't receive it. She was chosen as the best to receive the award. It wasn't a lottery. They didn't pick her name out of a hat. Stop trying so hard to pay the award dust. It's the Songwriter's Hall of Fame, good songwriting is a prerequisite before being thought of to receive an award of any kind from them and they have been a fan of her song writing since before she was "Lady Gaga." It's not a songwriting award from Cosmo Magazine. Come on lol. Of course the fact she was given an award of "any kind" from the SOHF should be taken into consideration when putting together a top 100 list of songwriters. But putting that aside she also has the #11 album of RS Women Who Rock: The 50 Greatest Albums of All Time. Well above of some other artists who were mentioned in the songwriting list. That alone should have placed her in the top 100. So yes one can argue, "hey she's not on that list, but she was given award by the SOHF. That's odd."

PS Adelle, and Debbie Harry were also not on the list and have albums in the Top Women Who Rock: The 50 Greatest Albums of All Time. It also shows Rolling Stone's inconsistency in their Top whatever kind of lists. Cyndi Lauper and Linda Perry were both inducted into the SHOF this year and also not on the list, showing again how wrong they got this list.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/women-who-rock-the-50-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120622

 

 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Googling the definition of interpretation won't change the fact that the award is not based on the quality of songwriting.  Didy elaborated the essence of the award perfectly yet you're still as dense as a piece of wood.

LOL Riiiiight... You don't have to google something to know the difference between facts and interpretation. Just watch Fox News. You are like the Fox News of GGD and Gaga is your Obama. LOL I'll see you on another thread trying to pay her achievements dust. 

[wahkeenasitka 1,995]

kanye west is a great songwriter. it would be great if you would ever actually name some reasons you hate everyone on this list. 

Kanye West..?? A "Great Songwriter"? 

Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibQR0tQ0P8

Vomit. Disgusting. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc

Vomit. Vomit. Disgusting. Barf. 

This is Real Songwriting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YuaZcylk_o

(Joni Mitchell - A Case of You)

& This.... THIS: 

(Bjork - Pagan Poetry)

I have taste. Thank you very much. 

[wahkeenasitka 1,995]

I would definitely say that Gaga is an exponentially better songwriter than Taylor Swift or Kanye West. Imho, the only reason they were included on this joke of a top 100 list is to put in a few current / popular / relevant people that are decent so that young teenagers / 20somethings will actually pay attention to a list that's mostly focused on musicians from the 60s / 70s / 80s. 

[Snow 1,582]

I would definitely say that Gaga is an exponentially better songwriter than Taylor Swift or Kanye West. Imho, the only reason they were included on this joke of a top 100 list is to put in a few current / popular / relevant people that are decent so that young teenagers / 20somethings will actually pay attention to a list that's mostly focused on musicians from the 60s / 70s / 80s. 

could not disagree more. Kanye is super SUPER talented musician and songwriter despite The fact that he's a prick. Gaga is NOWHERE even near those abilities. She's very generic song writer, sorry to say. Basic four chord songs with even more simple and repetive melody lines with hooks of jumps in fifths... Not to mention her abilities as a lyricist....not hating here, just get real! She will for sure improve in time, but now she's quite infant as writer...

I do love Gaga' s ssongs, for what they are. Simple and catchy dance tunes. But Im not delusional and think they are superb songwriting master pieces. They are The opposite from musical stand point.

[AbuHassan1992 766]

Kanye West..?? A "Great Songwriter"? 

Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibQR0tQ0P8

Vomit. Disgusting. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBAtAM7vtgc

Vomit. Vomit. Disgusting. Barf. 

This is Real Songwriting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YuaZcylk_o

(Joni Mitchell - A Case of You)

& This.... THIS: 

(Bjork - Pagan Poetry)

I have taste. Thank you very much. 

wow, you're being ver objective, aren't you?

At least try to be somewhat respectful. It seems like you're the type of person to dismiss all rap music, because of some prejudice, or you just don't get it. Bound2 is an amazing song by the way, with funny ass lyrics. It's hilarious but still sort of beautiful, in his weird way. 

If you say he's not a talented songwriter, you've probably never listened to his songs. They're amazing. Listen to Lost in the world on my beautiful dark twisted fantasy and tell me that's not stellar. Hell, listen to the whole of the album. All the songs are beautiful poetry. Listen to welcome to heartbreak, never let me down, no church in the wild, slow jamz, blood on the leaves, homecoming, illest mother****er alive, devil in a new dress (one of my favorites), Diamonds from sierra leone, (the solo version), to name a few. To just dismiss his obvious talent like that is jsut plain ignorance. 

If you're gonna talk ****, at least try to back up your opinions and tell us exactly why think his work is "disgusting vomit".