There will NEVER be another "The Fame Monster"

[Supersonic 49,376]

One day y'all stan for how The Fame/Monster sounds and say it's commercial performance didn't matter to y'all, the other day you say that y'all want a "revolutionary smash hit" like Bad Romance and acclaim and diamond records. What's it gonna be? Make up your minds.

[Bebe 17,093]

I think when people say "she needs another bad romance" I feel like they mean that she needs another revolutionary smash hit. Not necessarily sounding the same at all, but something out there and forward thinking. That's what I mean when I say that anyway.

This but I'll add that I don't think there is every going to be another one of those either. TF/M was an anomaly. There is no way in hell any artist could have maintained the level of success and attention that TF/M gathered.

The fact that she managed it once speaks volumes to how creative, interesting and talented Gaga is.

TF Gaga came out with super catchy songs, was part of the shift from urban dominated radio to dance music and came with this super unique style that caught everyone's attention. 
TFM Gaga was like an upgraded version. It was Gaga with these epic videos, huge budgets for performances and with the backing of fashion designers so she didn't have to rely on her Haus creating her clothes.

By the time of ARTPOP she was back to a more reasonable and sustainable level of success. Despite releasing 2 music videos, having one top 10 US hit, some cancelled projects and a switch in management ARTPOP sold around the same as PRISM and Bangerz.
 

Gaga isn't this new fascinating woman anymore. We are well into the dance-pop phase, Gaga is trying to make more complex music than Just Dance and her fashion isn't something that people gawk at any more.

Gaga is talented enough to have a very long career, and remain a huge superstar, but I don't think she is ever going to captivate the world like she did during TF/M.
 

[BricksNStrings 231]

This but I'll add that I don't think there is every going to be another one of those either. TF/M was an anomaly. There is no way in hell any artist could have maintained the level of success and attention that TF/M gathered.
The fact that she managed it once speaks volumes to how creative, interesting and talented Gaga is.

TF Gaga came out with super catchy songs, was part of the shift from urban dominated radio to dance music and came with this super unique style that caught everyone's attention. 
TFM Gaga was like an upgraded version. It was Gaga with these epic videos, huge budgets for performances and with the backing of fashion designers so she didn't have to rely on her Haus creating her clothes.

By the time of ARTPOP she was back to a more reasonable and sustainable level of success. Despite releasing 2 music videos, having one top 10 US hit, some cancelled projects and a switch in management ARTPOP sold around the same as PRISM and Bangerz.
 

Gaga isn't this new fascinating woman anymore. We are well into the dance-pop phase, Gaga is trying to make more complex music than Just Dance and her fashion isn't something that people gawk at any more.

Gaga is talented enough to have a very long career, and remain a huge superstar, but I don't think she is ever going to captivate the world like she did during TF/M.
 

this is one of the things I was trying to get at in the OP (towards the end) but I didn't phrase it as well as you did

[Whiskey Mouth 322]

true. because why would her label spend more money to record songs that have already been recorded? 

[uvglo 966]

i thought you were gonna say "she will never be able to top tfm" but im rly relieved you didnt omg. 

[Versace 7,960]

TFM will always be my fav Gaga album and to me I feel it's cause it changed music itself , or at least Pop music and took it to a whole new level that open many doors, although Born This Way was socially and mentally more impactful or even her most iconic in the eyes of fans. Musically speaking or production and melody wise at least TFM is far more superior. BTW is influenced by a sound well incorporated within the 70's and 80's and on some songs it goes into the future with the electronic genre of things. So no I am not expecting another TFM , I actually expect something better. You know it truly sad and blunt that some fans think others favor TFM due to it's success and acclaim but you would be lying to yourself that heck even if the album flopped, that album will slay your life like never before. The quality is top notch on TFM and is close to perfection as can be if we look it as a whole piece instead of songs themselves that to me is what defines a memorable album, one where you remember all the songs instead of only the singles. With LG5 Gaga should try avoiding pushing for social and cultural impact such as BTW and ARTPOP but rather try to push for the musical boundaries which is what she did with TF/M and even C2C. Although it might seem that TF/M was also pushing for a cultural and social impact it was within the basis of Pop Culture and Pop genre , Fame is nothing really (the concepts that revolve around TF/M is not the reason why they were successful it was more of the music and how it was a rebirth of Pop these concepts are really basic when compared to BTW and ARTPOP but it was the method of execution that highlighted TF/M as albums). Therefor all I hope for LG5 is to start yet another musical revolution.

[barcodemonster 3,525]

The Fame Monster is like that guy on grindr you keep going back to and you want to recreate that first time together but it won't ever be the same you know? 

[RAMROD 109,537]

I.hope so.

So tired with this plea for Gaga to rehash her past ideas.

That is so counter productive and only based on nostalgia.

Doesn't always mean it will suceed again even if she did it.

However, there will be another C2C, Jazz is always be sounding classics like that. And both, Tony and Gaga already planned for C2C follow up which will be another Jazz standards album. 

 

[FameHookah 4,608]

Fuk TFM tbh

it would flop harder than ARTPOP if she released it now

She needs another The Fame

Fun relatable bops paired with iconic, sassy,  s-xy and fierce outfits/makeup/attitude

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

TFM represented success, hits, and lots of promo

That's what we mean by another TFM...another Bad Romance...another VMA Paparazzi 

Not to repeat what's been done, but to bring the same results back

[Bette Davis 12,742]

People don't literally want The Fame Monster 2.0.. They want the commercial success and polished, cohesive visuals, fashion and music. I think you maybe are taking it too literally tbh 

[Better Day 5,766]

true. because why would her label spend more money to record songs that have already been recorded? 

katy's label does that 

[BricksNStrings 231]

TFM represented success, hits, and lots of promo

That's what we mean by another TFM...another Bad Romance...another VMA Paparazzi 

Not to repeat what's been done, but to bring the same results back

All Gaga can do is make great music and promote the hell out of it. Expecting the same level of success as when she was at the absolute peak of her fame but was still mysterious bc everyone was learning about her at the same time is unrealistic and is going to disappoint fans regardless of how great her music is. Plus, while I do think Gaga wants recognition for her work and would like to be on top in some respects, I think the fame monster really started to get to her - and I say that term not meaning the record or era, but the monster that is super fame. She's a different person now.

[BricksNStrings 231]

People don't literally want The Fame Monster 2.0.. They want the commercial success and polished, cohesive visuals, fashion and music. I think you maybe are taking it too literally tbh 

I do get what you're saying, but I don't think TFM was as cohesive as people remember it. It was extremely successful, but cohesion isn't the same thing. If you recall, she was originally gonna go onstage with Kanye West, then that got cancelled and we got TMB V.1, then she threw out her whole stage and created a whole new tour. Meanwhile, Telephone and Alejandro videos were delayed on release multiple times, and even though all three videos are masterpieces and probably her best ones, none of them have the same tone or imagery...all three are "dark" but BR is sterile/Kubrickian/minimalist, Telephone is a fast-paced colorful Tarantino-esque short film and Alejandro is basically a fashion video with stark/cold/"haunting" imagery.  Also, I would argue sonically it's just as cohesive as her other records. BTW almost entirely was an 80s new wave and 80s stadium rock hybrid...The Fame Monster had just as much diversity as BTW did, with Speechless, Telephone, and Teeth being sonically much different than the goth-pop/industrial pop of BR/DITD/Monster.

[kennji 546]

it's not that impossible. but she is running out of time to make that level of fame, success and social and cultural impact. IMO