Psychedelic 1,098 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 too many producers + songrwiters for mediocre products + she have not a particular talent One Of The Boys (not grammy-worthy tho) disgrees with the first part of your opinion. While her acoustic sets disagree with the second part, yet that part is just your opinion so I'm not going into further disccusion. But really One Of The Boys has less song-writing credits that Gaga has ever had! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superman 32 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Most of her "fans" are jumping off the sinking ship to other fanbases as we speak. if not having a grammy was a reason not to stan for katy they would have left the previous 12 times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyp 367 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Some people say it's because her music isn't "quality", but I mean... Rihanna has Grammys, so... I think she is just overshadowed by a massive hit every year. Who knows. Grammys are an honor, but really don't mean much. Cher, for example, has one Grammy and she won it 35 years into her career. She's one of the most successful singers of all time. In the end, your awards don't define your legacy. In Kety's case, nothing will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismatic 4,789 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 She's always nominated during the wrong time. Whenever she's going to win, there always another act who steals her light tbh. Teenage Dream could've snatched a few Grammys, but that was Gaga was in her prime and many more acts. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The artist who have beaten Katy out in the categories she was submitted in: Adele (2 years) Beyoncé Gaga Lorde All females. Sam is the only male artist who won in the categories Katy was nominated for, and that was for his album, not his song Stay With Me. In what world is Sam Smith more "commercial" than Katy Perry? Come on, now. Notice the the lack of pure pop or dance pop winning. Adele is a soul singer, Beyonce R&B, Sam Smith does slow ballads, Lorde indietronica that sometimes is played on alternative rock radio. Harder to win with a catchy poppy song, even if the lyrics are just as clever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GANJA 167 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Grammys are not about quality, they're about popularity. If they were about quality, the nominees in almost every category would be completely different, Katy wouldn't have a single nomination, Sir Mix-a-Lot wouldn't have one Grammy, and artists like Led Zeppelin and Björk would have a ton. Beck (who I think truly deserved it) got it because he is very respected in the music industry(like Pharrell); and he had the only "rock" album among the nominees. Katy hasn't won a grammy yet because she is not very respected as an artist/musician. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 and artists like Led Zeppelin and Björk would have a ton. Led Zep got snubbed all through their career, and weren't critical favourites. Again, voter preference for slower ballady music over hard rock and uptempo pop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBNLM 1,640 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One Of The Boys (not grammy-worthy tho) disgrees with the first part of your opinion. While her acoustic sets disagree with the second part, yet that part is just your opinion so I'm not going into further disccusion. But really One Of The Boys has less song-writing credits that Gaga has ever had! i already said that she is a mediocre singer and this is not a particular talent but a common one about one of the boys You are right and i like cause it feels more personal and less generic but talking about her last two albums this is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GANJA 167 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Led Zep got snubbed all through their career, and weren't critical favourites. Again, voter preference for slower ballady music over hard rock and uptempo pop. That is also true. Grammy voters are very biased towards certain genres, and are very out of touch with the current music landscape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One Of The Boys (not grammy-worthy tho) disgrees with the first part of your opinion. While her acoustic sets disagree with the second part, yet that part is just your opinion so I'm not going into further disccusion. But really One Of The Boys has less song-writing credits that Gaga has ever had! Gaga's songs don't have professional songwriters and songwriting teams. That's what the majority of Katy's songs have...that's the difference. If you look at the writing credits on even One of the Boys, there are accomplished songwriters listed on the majority of those songs...people who write songs for other artists for a living. They are lyricists, not simply producers or sound engineers of some sort. Katy has had several songwriters that have been inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame on her albums. (Including One of the Boys) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernier 3,786 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 There's always been much stronger songs/albums than hers in the categories she was nominated Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Notice the the lack of pure pop or dance pop winning. Adele is a soul singer, Beyonce R&B, Sam Smith does slow ballads, Lorde indietronica that sometimes is played on alternative rock radio. Harder to win with a catchy poppy song, even if the lyrics are just as clever. Single Ladies isn't pure pop, because of cross over (which most of Katy's songs have done as well), but it was as Pop as any other song. Bad Romance, I Gotta Feeling, Hey Soul Sister, Since You've Been Gone, Breakaway, We Are Young, Get Lucky, Happy Kelly Clarkson with Stronger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Single Ladies isn't pure pop, because of cross over (which most of Katy's songs have done as well), but it was as Pop as any other song. Bad Romance, I Gotta Feeling, Hey Soul Sister, We Are Young, Get Lucky, Happy, Kelly Clarkson with Stronger I'll grant you only the first two and K Clarkson. Fun is indie rock crossover. Get Lucky is a respected DJ collab with a black R&B artist. Happy - from an urban contemporary Grammy winning album. Single Ladies was sent to urban radio first and Beyonce is R&B not pure pop. There is a sense is which any song that becomes super-popular is pop, and it of course has more votes from its home genre than a pure pop song. (Kinda same issue as Macklemore who appealed to pop fans winning rap category, except there are no pop purists to defend Katy and Gaga like the rap purists.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 i already said that she is a mediocre singer and this is not a particular talent but a common one about one of the boys You are right and i like cause it feels more personal and less generic but talking about her last two albums this is it A medicre singer that can get a standing ovation at the grammy's where only real musicians and real music experts can have seats :lollipop: Gaga's songs don't have professional songwriters and songwriting teams. That's what the majority of Katy's songs have...that's the difference. If you look at the writing credits on even One of the Boys, there are accomplished songwriters listed on the majority of those songs...people who write songs for other artists for a living. They are lyricists, not simply producers or sound engineers of some sort. Katy has had several songwriters that have been inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame on her albums. (Including One of the Boys) Well it's no lie Gaga is much better song-writer (and singer, and dancer and performer in general). But deluding oneself into believing that Katy has absolutely no talent or skills is a whole different story that happens quite often here, that was my only point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I'll grant you only the first two and K Clarkson. Fun is indie rock crossover. Get Lucky is a respected DJ collab with a black R&B artist. Happy - from an urban contemporary Grammy winning album. Single Ladies was sent to urban radio first and Beyonce is R&B not pure pop. There is a sense is which any song that becomes super-popular is pop, and it of course has more votes from its home genre than a pure pop song. (Kinda same issue as Macklemore who appealed to pop fans winning rap category, except there are no pop purists to defend Katy and Gaga like the rap purists.) What's your big excuse for Hey Soul Sister? Oh, add in This Love and My Humps. You said no pure pop or dance pop and I listed several out for you. It's not like most of these songs were ballads with deep, earth shattering lyrics. Most are just catchy songs that made a big impact on Pop for that particular year. And who cares if the DJ or producer is black? Also, Happy is as pop/ dance and mainstream as you can get! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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