JDi 1,495 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is totally claimable. But this user has a history and that history changes the way a lot of people reply to this "suggestion". When you think Gaga is the only artist who is putting music out today who has any sort of serious artistic impact (which is Enigma's belief), threads like this don't become a mere suggestion, they become the latest link in a chain of endless "See what Gaga did for the industry" fallacies.I see... well isn't it only natural on here lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I see... well isn't it only natural on here lol Well, in every of his threads there are plenty of users who see things otherwise and can provide plenty of good counterarguments, so.. but then again, those users are usually made out to be Gaga haters who shouldn't even be here So I guess you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 can you not read? If you think this discussion that you decided to spark isn't going anywhere, then don't quote me back. The irony! The simple fact is that no one can solely attribute the revival of RnB 80's sounds to DWUW when there were similar, bigger songs out there. It'd be foolish and delusional to think otherwise. send me a postard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Well, in every of his threads there are plenty of users who see things otherwise and can provide plenty of good counterarguments, so.. but then again, those users are usually made out to be Gaga haters who shouldn't even be here So I guess you're right. (that felt reasonable) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 send me a postard what an intelligent, well-thought response. On topic: Chris Brown's 'Fine China' is an RnB song that also used 80's inspired beats. That song was released before DWUW and had a more impressive chart performance. That could've inspired the trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Well, in every of his threads there are plenty of users who see things otherwise and can provide plenty of good counterarguments, so.. but then again, those users are usually made out to be Gaga haters who shouldn't even be here So I guess you're right. I don't understand why we can't just enjoy the music instead of trying to make out everything Gaga does to be some sort of revolution. It is what all the other fanbases mock Gaga fans for though so at least we're living up to our stereotype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Does anyone even ****ing know about DWUW? Who's gonna listen to a Lady Gaga album to look for the next new sound? There is nothing new, interesting or creative about that DWUW synth bassline you've been plugging and many artists (or should I say producers) can have the same idea to take an 80's sounding synth and put it on the radio becuase that has been done for the last decades.You don't think they would be curious enough to check out the current breadth of music releases? Especially from someone so high profile in the genre? Not to mention you've got other people involved in the song like DJ Snake?Katy, Rihanna, Dr. Luke, Beiber, Taylor etc. all mentioned listening to ARTPOP and/or songs from ARTPOP so it isn't that far fetched that some in the industry would take notice of a new Gaga release. Especially when you factor in that it can be a small industry where everyone knows each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 what an intelligent, well-thought response. On topic: Chris Brown's 'Fine China' is an RnB song that also used 80's inspired beats. That song was released before DWUW and had a more impressive chart performance. That could've inspired the trend. soo.. you're feeling good there? cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Everywhere in that song. And its not even an 80's baseline. Both songs are mid tempo R&B / Synthpop. If anyone is going to be credited for reviving this sound to the mainstream its going to be Drake, his entire album follows that vein. Gaga on the other hand, followed an already existing trend (just like the rest of the ARTPOP era).drakes song doesnt have the bassline we are talking about lol. Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 You don't think they would be curious enough to check out the current breadth of music releases? Especially from someone so high profile in the genre? Not to mention you've got other people involved in the song like DJ Snake?Katy, Rihanna, Dr. Luke, Beiber, Taylor etc. all mentioned listening to ARTPOP and/or songs from ARTPOP so it isn't that far fetched that some in the industry would take notice of a new Gaga release. Especially when you factor in that it can be a small industry where everyone knows each other.I don't doubt that those people listened to ARTPOP, but it's a whole other thing to take ideas from it in the belief that Gaga is somehow ahead of a trend. The only time that was possible was during The Fame, any other album she released was never seen as particularly trendsetting for pop music, in fact, the 80's/90's comparisons never stop!Which is why I seriously doubt that any producer/artist would look into Gaga's music with the intention of discovering a potential new trend at this point. But I don't deny that it's possible, I just don't think it's convincing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I don't doubt that those people listened to ARTPOP, but it's a whole other thing to take ideas from it in the belief that Gaga is somehow ahead of a trend. The only time that was possible was during The Fame, any other album she released was never seen as particularly trendsetting for pop music, in fact, the 80's/90's comparisons never stop!Which is why I seriously doubt that any producer/artist would look into Gaga's music with the intention of discovering a potential new trend at this point. But I don't deny that it's possible, I just don't think it's convincing.Yeah, I just think it could be as simple as someone listening to something and wanting that sound for themselves no matter where it came from. People will pull from the most random of influences.However, I do agree that producers will more likely take from the unknown and upcoming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Just in case nobody noticed this.'I was just one of a few artists at a certain sort of time in radio where more dance music was being played on top 40,' she tells MTV News. - Gaga in 2011. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Eyes 2,279 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 That bassline is gorgeous, but let's be real here.It's repeated sixteenth notes that only play D E and F#. That =/= R&B. Furthermore, it's such a simplistic compositional style that you can in no way credit Gaga with inventing it. All in all, this thread could use a ladder to help with the reaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Don't forget Maroon5's new song that stole DWUW's entire beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I am only refering to the 80ish synth/baseline that DWUW has, and not a pop/R&B hybrid. For example, style is not R&B at all but it does have that DWUW synth I am talking about. Drake's song doesn't have this type of synth that many songs have now, but that DWUW did have.But I don't think Style has the same type of bass line. To me DWUW, Style and Jealous have the same beat that Hold On We're Going Home has. The only songs that have the same bass line are DWUW and Love Me Harder. Jealous and HOWGH have the same soft bass line and Style has a guitar riff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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