The Do What U Want Effect?

[Quark 7,089]

​Where are they? because Style uses a very light guitar synthesizer while DWUW samples a rough throbbing 80's sounding synths. Love Me Harder is inspired by The Weeknd's music and even so, the only thing it has in common with DWUW is its' repetitive beat in the chorus, which many songs share. However, the only noticeable similarity between all of these other songs is their mid - tempo & identical bassline. And if that by any means is a trend, then Drake's the artist to credit. Bottom line is : there are no 5 songs, the only song that resembles DWUW is LMH. Your bias is showing again, remember how hard you tried to dismiss Dark Horses' 'impact'? yet a case of one song having a familiar beat to DWUW and you're already running to call it the next big trend to add up to your self invented Gaga accomplishments.

The dominant genre wasn't Hip Hop to begin with, Low is a catchy, up - tempo and club oriented song. Lollipop was Electropop as well. Have you ever properly listened to a Hip Hop album? ironically enough, the top selling albums of 2009 - 2010 were mostly non EDM records. I thought EDM made every other genre commercially subpar, though? could it be that you're wrong?

To summarize my opinion about all of this : Gaga debuted precisely at a time when Electronic dance music was being furthermore embraced on a mainstream level and therefor rode this electronic wave just as much as everyone else did. However, I don't deny the fact that she, along with many other artists, solidified this genre and brought more attention to it, but that's far from the 'impact' you claim she had.

Do I find any of this impressive? no, not at all. Impressive to me are artists like Madonna, björk and Kylie Minogue who introduced these sounds to the mainstream and were experimenting with EDM before anyone else in the pop market. And for the record, their work still sounds more innovative and fresh than anything released post 2008. 

Lol. Whether or not it is Guitar syntheziser or not does not matter since the sounds and style (pun intended) of the sounds are very similar. And yes I know at least five other songs including one by Something Gemini ft. Nick Jonas that I just heard on the radio that has that DWUW sound. Finally keep trying to pretend that Drake's song has this synth because it doesn't. His song does sound like DWUW, but the actual type of synth I am talking about in not present in his song. Also, the Kyle or Madonna songs sounding more innovative is a matter of opinion.

[Quark 7,089]

​"Or else how to you explain EDM domination all over the charts and radio from 2009 to 2012."

"Plus it is quite obvious that everyone followed with the EDM sound after Gaga."

"No one had the impact that Gaga had on EDM mainstream acceptance, because after Gaga, at least in the U.S, music switched from Hip Hop, pop rock, to electronic dance. Why is this so hard to understand?"

"What I mean is the electronic dance replaced hip hop and pop rock as the popular genres in the U.S."

"The explosion of dance pop truly happened after Gaga."

I debunked all these points. But I enjoy seeing you backtrack now.

Oh really, you "debunked" me? The real point here is that Gaga DID have the biggest impact on many aspects of pop culture in recent times, and she was definitely one of the biggest factors in the rise of mass acceptance of EDM. You can bring me facts or what not, but Gaga's impact is quite obvious.

[AbuHassan1992 766]

no it sounds like hold on we're going home. whenever one of those come on, I can't tell the difference for a SPLIT second

[AbuHassan1992 766]

Oh really, you "debunked" me? The real point here is that Gaga DID have the biggest impact on many aspects of pop culture in recent times, and she was definitely one of the biggest factors in the rise of mass acceptance of EDM. You can bring me facts or what not, but Gaga's impact is quite obvious.

​nooo she wasn't. oh my god. Lady Gaga hasn't really been impactful in 5 years. and she was never really EDM, either. Just because they used a synthesizer and electronic sounds and didn't track real guitars or whatever doesn't mean it's EDM. can you name one lady gaga song that is EDM? the closest one is swine but it's so bad and nobody cares about it. I can't really think of any other songs that are EDM. And what exactly do you mean when you say EDM+ You do know it's a waaay general term, right? can you name some hit songs that were EDM and what genres they were``

cuz at this point I'm not too sure if you could.

 

and there's nothing original or ground breaking about the bass line in DWUW. If anything, Robyn paved the way for the revival, EXCEPT she didn't because it's been around since jesus 

[Quark 7,089]

​nooo she wasn't. oh my god. Lady Gaga hasn't really been impactful in 5 years. and she was never really EDM, either. Just because they used a synthesizer and electronic sounds and didn't track real guitars or whatever doesn't mean it's EDM. can you name one lady gaga song that is EDM? the closest one is swine but it's so bad and nobody cares about it. I can't really think of any other songs that are EDM. And what exactly do you mean when you say EDM+ You do know it's a waaay general term, right? can you name some hit songs that were EDM and what genres they were``

cuz at this point I'm not too sure if you could.

 

and there's nothing original or ground breaking about the bass line in DWUW. If anything, Robyn paved the way for the revival, EXCEPT she didn't because it's been around since jesus 

Most of Gaga's are synth pop. If you do your research you will find out that synth pop IS a branch of EDM, just like house, dub step, techno, ect. Also how does your taste in the song Swine even matter? It still does not take away from the fact that Swine, Aura, among many others, are EDM songs.

[Jjang 2,262]

Lol. Whether or not it is Guitar syntheziser or not does not matter since the sounds and style (pun intended) of the sounds are very similar. And yes I know at least five other songs including one by Something Gemini ft. Nick Jonas that I just heard on the radio that has that DWUW sound. Finally keep trying to pretend that Drake's song has this synth because it doesn't. His song does sound like DWUW, but the actual type of synth I am talking about in not present in his song. Also, the Kyle or Madonna songs sounding more innovative is a matter of opinion.

​It does matter, because its not the same synth. You're obviously completely clueless. This thread wouldn't have been made if it wasn't for the shared bassline in all of these songs, If DWUW and Style had a different one they would sound entirely different, but you clearly don't know that.

I don't think its a matter of opinion, not only their production is more progressive, but it also sounds more current than anything released in 2008-2011.

 

[Yanko 9,860]

Oh really, you "debunked" me?

​yes he did and so did jjang like 6078984746588959894 times 

[Didymus 34,379]

Oh really, you "debunked" me? The real point here is that Gaga DID have the biggest impact on many aspects of pop culture in recent times, and she was definitely one of the biggest factors in the rise of mass acceptance of EDM. You can bring me facts or what not, but Gaga's impact is quite obvious.

​I debunked the things I quoted

The rest of your post is an off-topic diversion and more backtracking from your earlier opinions so I'm not even gonna give it the light of day. If you admit that you don't care about facts, then all my efforts here were pointless, I'll remember that for next time.

[AbuHassan1992 766]

Most of Gaga's are synth pop. If you do your research you will find out that synth pop IS a branch of EDM, just like house, dub step, techno, ect. Also how does your taste in the song Swine even matter? It still does not take away from the fact that Swine, Aura, among many others, are EDM songs.

First of all, you obviously didn't read my post since you're ignoring most of it. 

Sevond of all., synthpop is not an edm genre. I don't know where you got that from. 

 

I never said said my taste in the song swine mattered lol I said it's the only gags song that's close to being edm. Now answer the questions I asked you. 

[Jjang 2,262]

Most of Gaga's are synth pop. If you do your research you will find out that synth pop IS a branch of EDM, just like house, dub step, techno, ect. Also how does your taste in the song Swine even matter? It still does not take away from the fact that Swine, Aura, among many others, are EDM songs.

​If you do your research you will find out that Aura is her only EDM release. And funny enough its not even her production, she bought the beat from infected mushroom (an actual EDM duo), Synthpop is a product of Electronic music, but it certainly is not EDM, nor a branch that belongs to it. 

[Didymus 34,379]

Synthpop comes from rock music and new wave. Which makes sense in Gaga's case.

[Wet Fire 7,278]

DWUW was one of the best songs of 2013. And I don't think it really had that much impact on pop culture. I mean yes it sold more than one million in the US and charted in the top 20 in most of the charts...but not enough to START a trend. I guess it was just becoming a thing to get a more R&B sound in mainstream music in 2013-14. And many other artists did this too. But obviously many people noticed DWUW because of the popular SNL & AMA performance as well as the controversial video footage leak. I don't know, there might be a chance Gaga 'contributed' to the start but no, DWUW did not start the whole trend. To start a trend you need megahits like Poker Face, I Gotta Feeling, Tik Tok etc. that started the whole dance-pop trend after hip-hop-oriented 2000s.

[Quark 7,089]

​It does matter, because its not the same synth. You're obviously completely clueless. This thread wouldn't have been made if it wasn't for the shared bassline in all of these songs, If DWUW and Style had a different one they would sound entirely different, but you clearly don't know that.

I don't think its a matter of opinion, not only their production is more progressive, but it also sounds more current than anything released in 2008-2011.

 

Can you seriously tell me that they don't sound very similar? If they are so different why are manymany here making the connection between style and DWUW? 

[Quark 7,089]

​I debunked the things I quoted

The rest of your post is an off-topic diversion and more backtracking from your earlier opinions so I'm not even gonna give it the light of day. If you admit that you don't care about facts, then all my efforts here were pointless, I'll remember that for next time.

The thing is that you bring me facts, which I acknowledge to be facts, that don't change Gaga's impact. You keep saying how EDM was mainstream before Gaga, which is true, but the true popularization of dance music happened until after Gaga. Like you said, were are just going in circles here.

[Quark 7,089]

First of all, you obviously didn't read my post since you're ignoring most of it. 

Sevond of all., synthpop is not an edm genre. I don't know where you got that from. 

 

I never said said my taste in the song swine mattered lol I said it's the only gags song that's close to being edm. Now answer the questions I asked you. 

Synpop/dance pop is electronic dance music. So why is it not EDM?