Slojo 51 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think they will do one more album together as it's already planned and then she will make the occasional solo Jazz covers album. I think Tony who is usually seen as the keeper of the "Great American Song Book" is looking to her to take it over and keep the songs alive when he retires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 So many of the songs they've covered have already been done to death and there's only so many really good, well-known jazz songs out there to cover and there is a limit. It won't be the most lucrative venture as time goes on either and no follow-up will sell as well as C2C did.Everything about this statement is wrong.There are literally thousands of Jazz songs out there that could be covered, and of course Gaga could write some herself if she'd like. Jazz is not a limiting Genre, in fact it overall has more freedom than pop.And I can pretty much guarantee that a C2C follow up would outsell the first one. Her market for that type of music has only expanded and more people will take it seriously next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 As many as she has time for. Fact is c2c did very well, the tour is sold out everywhere, it won a freaking Grammy for heaven's sake. People that didn't buy this one will buy the next one purely because its not "new and scary" anymore and they've been impressed by all the live work the pair have done.Gaga needed Tony in order to legitimately crack the genre that she will slip into as she soars through various career highs. Think of the embarrassing position Cher, Madonna and Britney are in right now. They're 100% out of the pop-music loop but it's all they have so they keep limping on, tarnishing the reputation of their legacy. Gaga won't do that. As an established jazz singer with 2 duet albums with Tony Bennett behind her, Gaga will slip off into being a Jazz artist into her old age. This is career planning at its finest. Not only that but gaga gets to show off her voice backed up by one of the very few true living legends on the planet. anybody that would be against more tonygaga is short sighted and shallow. Not to mention selfish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfrench 5 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I think we need like 1 or 2 albums with Tony (unfortunatly he won't be able to do more... :( )But I won't be against Gaga making solo jazz albums ! But I want her to make rock albums and other genre, she needs to experience all kind of music and I bet she will ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Born To Slay 10,996 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Hasn't she done enough songs with him? If she's really that much into jazz music, she can either write her own jazz songs and sing them solo or just try to sing with other jazz singers.I agree with this tbh, if she keeps latching on to Tony, she'll never get more respect in the Jazz community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 She really should do one every year or two until Tony is unable to keep going. They have better chemistry than people who have been working together for much longer and the partnership benefits both of them. It's also a safe zone for Gaga to develop her own individual jazz voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,910 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'd also like to add to my earlier statement that Tony is 88, so he's on borrowed time anyway. He can't really be expected to crank out album after album with promo and touring the globe at his age. I know he says he'll never retire but I think the promo and touring side is something he will inevitably have to retire from, sooner or later. It's just a question of how much longer he'll live to make many more duets with Gaga. It would have been tragic if he'd passed away just before C2C got released or during its campaign. Maybe that's why it was released when it was - for fear that he might not have long to go, so these duets had better be made now. One thing's for sure - we should be grateful for how much he's supporting Gaga. He's only ever done duets albums with two other singers - 2 with Bill Evans, 1 with kd lang. But neither of them got the promo or tour (or sales, for that matter) that he's been giving C2C. Gaga truly must mean so much to him. It would be brilliant if he did more duets albums with her than any other artist.Think of the embarrassing position Cher, Madonna and Britney are in right now. They're 100% out of the pop-music loop but it's all they have so they keep limping on, tarnishing the reputation of their legacy. Gaga won't do that. As an established jazz singer with 2 duet albums with Tony Bennett behind her, Gaga will slip off into being a Jazz artist into her old age.Totally agree with that. This is part of a long term plan for Gaga to show what a versatile artist she is. and to make sure she'll have credibility in other genres when she wants to move on from pop. I don't want Gaga to go down the Madonna/Cher route of trying to chase youth and popularity in her 40's and beyond, when she's married with kids. It's cringey, unnecessary and would ruin the legacy that she's worked so hard to build. You're right - the only reason these artists keep doing pop is that it's all they can do (though Madonna is capable of diversity, which her I'm Breathless album attests to, so the fact she doesn't want to expand and mature when she's actually at an advanced age really saddens me). I'm sure Gaga's want to become a mature artist as she gets older will be picked up on and praised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Gaga's career will encompass Pop, Jazz, Broadway, Rock, Stage and screen, she'll be everywhere. C2C is step 1 in diversifying herself, the oscars performance was another shot across the bow of the american public impressions of her. As mentioned above, she won't have to be chasing dance floor glory and pre-teens when she is 50 because she will be a respected all around artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm guessing Red, Hot and Blue will be released in Q4 2016 or Q1 2017. I don't want to seem morbid, but Tony isn't getting any younger, and I believe Gaga and Tony want to work together as much as possible. I'd enjoy another jazz album a a lot actually, especially if Gaga has more solos, or writes original material for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,910 Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Everything about this statement is wrong.There are literally thousands of Jazz songs out there that could be covered, and of course Gaga could write some herself if she'd like. Jazz is not a limiting Genre, in fact it overall has more freedom than pop.And I can pretty much guarantee that a C2C follow up would outsell the first one. Her market for that type of music has only expanded and more people will take it seriously next time.It's an opinion, so please don't tell me it's wrong.Yes, there's plenty out there to be covered, it's just that, with jazz cover albums, in order to sell, they must be songs people are familiar with. And after C2C, these songs are going to get more obscure, making people less likely to buy. And there's a reason why the classics are called the classics: they're the ones people like the most. If it features songs they aren't keen on, the interest won't be there. And at this stage, Gaga's just doing jazz covers. I doubt she'll be doing original jazz for a while, so my opinion is referring to her covers of jazz standards.Yes, interest in her has expanded now, but that doesn't mean sales will automatically increase. Why do you think after an album sells multi-millions, the follow-up hardly ever equals or tops it? Because people enjoy one album and then move on. A lot of her fans who bought this one were doing it mainly out of support for Gaga and I can only see them giving her so much if more jazz albums follow, meaning we will have to increasingly rely on Tony's fanbase and the public to buy and they might not be interested. It'll have better first week sales, I'm sure, but I doubt it'll sell a million worldwide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 ^^^There are hundreds if not thousands of jazz standards people are familiar with, not 20. They could do 10 albums of material that people recognize.Gaga's fanbase is not largely responsible for the sales of C2C. Everyone else is. And that audience will be more willing than before to give credence to another Tony/Gaga release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddin 1,209 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I don't mind TonyGaga collaborations. I love Jazz, I love Gaga, and I love Tony so I'm probably a bit biased lol but I'd love to see Gaga explore Jazz solo as well. Her voice is so beautiful and mature, it would fit so perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 None... Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels n Drugs 4,629 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 i dont mind her releasing jazz album, solo or with Tony, but i hope she releases them in between solo pop albums oh look when you werent looking my motorcycle turned into a piano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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