lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Cheap and stupid Irony. The fact that she wasn't forced or that she has the possibility to not wear it because of interantional accords, it doesn't change the fact that the people in there wanted to see her wear it for respect, OBVIOUSLY not everybody but a lot of people claiming that she has being disprectful. Read all the article and not only the title or the parts that are more useful to prove your invalid points. Your article is saying that Saudi women are forbidden from higher education. You highlighted wrong parts. Other members noticed that the story is a mess. Few comments from twitter shouldn't make news or drama when there isn't any. Even her facial expression was taken from a sunny outdoor pic, who knows why she made that face. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnite 8 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Agree, but the article also point out that for a lot of people in there (including some men at the ceremony) she has been disprectful and irrespectful either way to not wear it beside her position. i see, i didn't know people were calling it disrespectful. obviously i don't agree that it is. they may disagree with our view of freedom all they like, as we disagree with theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 No, you don't get it. Different churches have different dressing codes. A Sikh with turban wouldn't be able to enter church where men are forbidden to cover their heads, for example. And in general, as we see from your story, in the most conservative islamic country, western women are not required to wear a veil. The point is that you want to impose your view on how women should dress both in West and East. You were talking about ROME (casually?), I answered for that, if we stay point the rules of every single Church the list will never end, the fact is that in WESTERN CHURCHES in general Muslim women can enter with their traditional clothes, but not the contrary, end of the story. Not Required it doesn't mean SAFE. They always reccomend to women to wear it in general to avoid troubles, if you think that a woman can go around for a city with a classic dress without veil and be totally sure you're delusional. You're wrong I don't wanna impose nothing, I'm for freedom, but the free has to be for both and not only for them when they come in here and not the contrary, this is the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 You were talking about ROME (casually?), I answered for that, if we stay point the rules of every single Church the list will never end, the fact is that in WESTERN CHURCHES in general Muslim women can enter with their traditional clothes, but not the contrary, end of the story. Not Required it doesn't mean SAFE. They always reccomend to women to wear it in general to avoid troubles, if you think that a woman can go around for a city with a classic dress without veil and be totally sure you're delusional. You're wrong I don't wanna impose nothing, I'm for freedom, but the free has to be for both and not only for them when they come in here and not the contrary, this is the point. http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_in_Rome,_do_as_the_Romans_do http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/When+in+Rome FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Your article is saying that Saudi women are forbidden from higher education. You highlighted wrong parts. Other members noticed that the story is a mess. Few comments from twitter shouldn't make news or drama when there isn't any. Even her facial expression was taken from a sunny outdoor pic, who knows why she made that face. I didn't write the article, I post the sources, call them and educate them, they're waiting for you to enlight them. What about the the rest, is false also that they don't allow women to drive? What about that? Is that freedom? Is that right? It's freedom of choice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_in_Rome,_do_as_the_Romans_do http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/When+in+Rome It doesn't matter, my point still stands and the example is still valid. But obviously you didn't answer to the most important points, better avoid when we don't know what to answer or when we don't have valid argumentations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It doesn't matter, my point still stands and the example is still valid. But obviously you didn't answer to the most important points, better avoid when we don't know what to answer or when we don't have valid argumentations. Of course it matters. I was not talking about Rome. It was an old saying which many Westerners use against Muslim women simply because it bothers them when they walk around covered. Your arguments are not as strong as you think they are. You have repeated those many times. Funny how you don't see double standards. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayo 300 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 The real issue here is how Obama didn't go to France but went to pay respects to Abdullah. Like why. OILOmg the essays in this thread already XD She did the right thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Of course it matters. I was not talking about Rome. It was an old saying which many Westerners use against Muslim women simply because it bothers them when they walk around covered. Your arguments are not as strong as you think they are. You have repeated those many times. Funny how you don't see double standards. I got that and what you meant with that expression, but it doesn't change the fact that muslim women are allowed to do that in here (in general) but not the contrary, beside if someone is bother or not by the fact that they're wearing the veil, simple. I can say the exactly same things about your arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,063 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 SO......., There is this footage found on YouTube. http://youtu.be/KA5Q4u-DnlY And we have been MISLED by irresponsible news report. :grr: Because clearly seen, Michelle were handshaking there. :udidnt: (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I got that and what you meant with that expression, but it doesn't change the fact that muslim women are allowed to do that in here (in general) but not the contrary, beside if someone is bother or not by the fact that they're wearing the veil, simple. I can say the exactly same things about your arguments. They are "allowed", but at the same time they're "advised" to take it off to get a (better) job or they're forbidden to wear it in schools like in France, or you can see in many comments that they're despised for keeping the "rag" on their head. You can say that yes. It doesn't matter to me. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny 12,753 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 She showed the girl behind the burqa aura I like dancin', and ponies.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 SO......., There is this footage found on YouTube. http://youtu.be/KA5Q4u-DnlY And we have been MISLED by irresponsible news report. :grr: Because clearly seen, Michelle were handshaking there. It's not the same moment in which they're referred to the article, the scene in the photo is different, but the article says that she has been snubbed by some members, not all ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,063 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It's not the same moment in which they're referred to the article, the scene in the photo is different, but the article says that she has been snubbed by some members, not all ;) Ah I see, well that is still bad then :crossed: (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teo 609 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well **** them tbh. They're so disrespectful and dumb. How long will it take for them to get over the dark ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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