Sebs 1,809 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 BORN THIS WAY > ARTPOP > THE FAME MONSTER > THE FAME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ryhanna 3,507 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think TFM is overrated, for sure, but ARTPOP is pretty "meh" imo. But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Everyone has their own opinions on which album is the best and which is the weakest, we're never all going to agree. And that's good. I don't think Gaga would want us all to praise one album over all of the others. Diverse tastes and opinions are what make art great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ok maybe I can add the swine to the exception list along with dope and ARTPOP and thats only after Gaga told us about it and had the live perfomance otherwise we couldnt have guessed. MEANWHILE every song on TFM and BTW have a clear understandable underlying meaning/message. ARTPOP is about fun and thats not bad. Well Aura is about breaking free of what society thinks of a person, especially to what people have to say about how women should be while also giving love and adoration to women who chose to dress traditionally because they WANT to, and not because they feel like they're supposed to. Venus is about being in a happier and stronger place through love,. G.U.Y. is about gender roles in society and how every take on it has its valid points as well as the power you can gain from confirming or not conforming to those roles, while simultaneously talking about how she still can be a strong and good artist without having to worry about how many people like or dislike you ("I don't need to be on top, to know I'm wanted 'cause I'm strong enough to know the truth). Sexxx Dreams Gaga opening up a little on what's going inside her brain ("When I have s-x dreams, they are really freaky"), and how she processes everything and tries to draw inspiration from it, Jewels N' Drugs is just about fun, not gonna lie. MANiCURE is about dolling yourself up and feeling beautiful, but also talking about how bewildering it is to be constantly told from her previous managment to doll up, be pretty and not have an opinion about anything, because other popstars do it and it sells better ("Salon's enough for her, don't you feel so insecure"). Do What U Want recalls the infamous incedent @ Heathrow Airport where she fell on her face and everybody was soooo satisfied to see her literally hit bottom, and how she is constantly fighting for her art and love, while the media just chooses to ignore any good deeds and make fun of her in the most shallow way possible. ARTPOP is about how she feels like she found her people in her fans, and that a lot of people think that "art" and "pop" can not go hand in hand together while she most certainly believes that art and pop can belong together if you do it the right way. Swine is one of the most personal and darkest songs she ever wrote (obvious reasons). Donatella is an anology of what the general public thinks what she's "really all about" and how that can be deceiving and hurtful, but finding happiness lays in not giving a f*ck what other people think of you. Mary Jane Holland is about her desire to just be a human being and have fun, without being put on a pedastal all the time because everybody scrutinizing every little thing you have said and done, and how she sometimes can't keep up with the buzz around herself, so she's lost herself in d--gs & addiction. Dope is an apology to all the people she hurt for falling back into d--gs, and how she's sorry and angry about letting people down. Gypsy is about finding love on the road, and finding somebody who deeply understands and appreciates you, loves you for you and try to take jabs at you for being you. Applause is about her love of being a performer, and that warm feeling that she gets from people being happy, being able to let people forget their sorrows just for a little time when they attend her shows, and how she will serve us eternally. If that ain't meaningful, Brad Pitt is still with Jennifer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Hoegan 1,018 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 and in my opinion it's definitely the other way around so, what's the point ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByeBye49 161 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I listen to ARTPOP more than TFM, so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleJungle 49 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 To me ARTPOP is better than TFM. Why? 1 - ARTPOP has a more audacious theme and vibe. TFM's fears idea and imagery only matches some of its tracks. It can't be compared to the concept of art and pop together and creative rebellion energy. 2 - While TFM is a compact product of well produced songs, ARTPOP is a music hybrid (just like BTW). It combines more genres, producers and sounds. 3 - Connection to the fanbase. ARTPOP clearly shows the evolution and understanding of Gaga's relationship with her fans. Gaga gave us what we asked (fun/colorful) and still managed to be true and personal. Gypsy, Swine, Dope... 4 - Choruses. From Aura to Applause, this album is full of beautiful and cool choruses. The best choruses so far can be found in ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 This is a great way of saying it! I totally agree. TFM was amazing because it came after TF. I've said it before somewhere, but I do think TFM was so successful because it came immediately following TF. It was light years better by comparison, not necessarily a masterpiece of an album as it stands alone. It becomes a masterpiece when you consider TF is all we had to go off of in terms of Gaga's work at that point. ARTPOP, to me, is a masterpiece that stands alone. Although I appreciate the cohesive-ness of TFM (with each song representing a fear), sometimes I think keeping with a theme can be restricting. In ARTPOP, I feel like she was freer (and happier!) and those things came out in the music. Hello to all who ranked albums in reverse of their release, I feel like we may be a small bunch...? And god speed to those fighting the good fight for ARTPOP here on TFMdaily.com. You understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeJesusSaid 0 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I feel like The Fame Monster is better because it seems like it was more thought out and challenging to make. Songs like Bad Romance, Alejandro, and Dance in the Dark are difficult songs to sing rather than ARTPOP's written-over-beat formula used on Donatella for instance. I love ARTPOP but If I had to rank them it would go: Born This Way The Fame Monster ARTPOP The Fame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 ARTPOP is Gaga's best album so yeah I guess so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysAMess 27,843 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 and think about it! The Fame Monster's songs are just not THAT great I mean "Teeth" "So Happy I Could Die" "Dance In The Dark" are just not that great compared to "Mary Jane Holland" "Sexxx Dreams" or "Gypsy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I think ARTPOP's lyrics are quite objective (unlike TFM, and that's what makes it shine for me). It talks about s-x, d--gs, fashion and love, but not in a very unique way unlike Dance in the Dark or Bad Romance or So Happy I Could Die (exception for G.U.Y.). Just because it talks about d--gs or s-x doesn't mean it's deep, that depends of how you approach the themes. A song like "So Happy I Could Die" could mean so much, from her need of dressing a character every day to d--g/alcohol addiction. Monster deals with obsession for danger and the bad stuff, and while the lyrics sounds kind of basic at first it takes a single line ("could I love him?") to change the whole song. They talk about d--gs, s-x and love in a less explicit and less common perspective. ARTPOP has a smarter production. Specially the songs produced by DJWS, you can clearly hear all the work they went through to finish them. The way Applause is structured to have "confusing" verses and then a pop, enthusiastic rhytm at the chorus, that kind of meaning in the form of the song is pretty awesome. However, that is not as good as you'd think, because in the end it's obvious they overthought the whole album. The whole "ARTPOP could be anything" turned out to be a lame excuse for a work that... Could be anything. What's so great about it? I'm talking music and performance and ideas wise, because I don't think we should separate them with Gaga. The Fame Monster was closer to a normal pop album sound, but it was brilliant in its concept, and that is why it's so good: not because it sounds particularly different (even though it does), but because it's pop at its best. I agree that Mary Jane Holland is one of Gaga's greatest tracks. Applause is, for me, one of her, if not The, best songs ever. Do What U Want could have been her greatest single yet. But the album is not better than TFM. (and yes, Born This Way is the best of them all) Anyway, this is my opinion right now, and who knows I might think different tomorrow :) anyway, to make it clear, everything I said here was to defend TFM over ARTPOP. I do think ARTPOP is a great album and, when you think about it, it is as good as the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Angel 128 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The Fame Monster is better than ARTPOP, by leaps and bounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP 87 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 In the long run ARTPOP turned out to be the better album, forme at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Buffay 73 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 ARTPOP is really deep and has a great message and super-personal it's well produced and it's way more mature. Jewels & Drugs, Fashion!, Sexxx Dreams, MANiCURE. Yeah, what a deep deep message Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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