Guest Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I don't think I want to discuss with someone who gives excuses for people who discriminated me. Idk maybe you just lack empathy Ja mir ist das gestern passiert. Ich hatte noch nie solche Angst ohgott, tut mir leid :( :hug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I don't think I want to discuss with someone who gives excuses for people who discriminated me. Idk maybe you just lack empathy Or maybe you lack arguments? You didn't tell me why Christian Evangelists who are anti-gay and anti-abortion can stay and freely preach their beliefs? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Or maybe you lack arguments? You didn't tell me why Christian Evangelists who are anti-gay and anti-abortion can stay and freely preach their beliefs? I'm also against that. As i said I'm against any kind of radicals. ohgott, tut mir leid :( Bin Ja zum Glück nur mit dem Schreck davon gekommen :Hug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I'm also against that. As i said I'm against any kind of radicals. But who's gonna kick them out? Where? No one talks about that. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Or maybe you lack arguments? You didn't tell me why Christian Evangelists who are anti-gay and anti-abortion can stay and freely preach their beliefs?i think what he means is, the Islamic radicals in Germany are a bigger threat to democracy than any other minority right now. It's kinda hard to describe, but there haven't been any vocal Christian radicals in Germany lately. German citizens are scared because we have seen what radicals are capable of (including nazis and other groups that stand for violence). I'm sure if Germany would be an Islamic country that Simon would say the same. :shrug: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 But who's gonna kick them out? Where? No one talks about that. I'd bei okay with kicking them out if they threat to kill me But you're getting away from the fact that you are okay with people discriminating me. i think what he means is, the Islamic radicals in Germany are a bigger threat to democracy than any other minority right now. It's kinda hard to describe, but there haven't been any vocal Christian radicals in Germany lately. German citizens are scared because we have seen what radicals are capable of (including nazis and other groups that stand for violence). I'm sure if Germany would be an Islamic country that Simon would say the same. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Or maybe you lack arguments? You didn't tell me why Christian Evangelists who are anti-gay and anti-abortion can stay and freely preach their beliefs? Neither should be kicked out, people have a right to those views but if you don't want 10,000 radical Muslims in your country then don't permit them entry in the first place. And people there are more okay with Christians because it was a Christian society for hundreds of years, Muslim is foreign. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 i think what he means is, the Islamic radicals in Germany are a bigger threat to democracy than any other minority right now. It's kinda hard to describe, but there haven't been any vocal Christian radicals in Germany lately. German citizens are scared because we have seen what radicals are capable of (including nazis and other groups that stand for violence). I'm sure if Germany would be an Islamic country that Simon would say the same. I understand, but you need to focus on all extremists who call for violence. Like nazi who burns a building is not different than radical muslim who burns a building. You shouldn't say, who cares about nazis, lets focus only on muslim radicals, and then you start to spread the list what that radical might be, and you include people who would not physically harm you but they "look scary". FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I understand, but you need to focus on all extremists who call for violence. Like nazi who burns a building is not different than radical muslim who burns a building. You shouldn't say, who cares about nazis, lets focus only on muslim radicals, and then you start to spread the list what that radical might be, and you include people who would not physically harm you but they "look scary". Ofc both suck. Both are wrong equally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I'd bei okay with kicking them out if they threat to kill me But you're getting away from the fact that you are okay with people discriminating me. This Was ist Dir denn passiert? :( MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Neither should be kicked out, people have a right to those views but if you don't want 10,000 radical Muslims in your country then don't permit them entry in the first place. And people there are more okay with Christians because it was a Christian society for hundreds of years, Muslim is foreign. Yeah it was, but today it's secular and their beliefs go against German democracy too. My point is, a mere belief is not enough to kick someone out, and also natives of the country who converted have no where to go. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Was ist Dir denn passiert? :( Ich war halt was später noch unterwegs mit meinem Freund und ja da kamen junge Erwachsene die anscheint salafisten waren und haben doofe Kommentare gebracht wegen der homos-xualität und meines Davidsternes. Die haben uns bedrängt. Wären wir nicht weggerannt wäre das bestimmt schlimmer ausgegangen und ich hätte jetzt bestimmt ein blaues Auge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Neither should be kicked out, people have a right to those views but if you don't want 10,000 radical Muslims in your country then don't permit them entry in the first place. And people there are more okay with Christians because it was a Christian society for hundreds of years, Muslim is foreign.That is easier said than done, unfortunately. Germany was rebuilt thanks to foreign workers after the world wars. Of course, their children and grandchildren belong to Germany and they have every right to. Most immigrants or German citizens with roots adapt to the lifestyles in Germany. They behave. There are thousands of districts in Germany living in peace and tolerance BECAUSE of foreigners. Most Germans learn to appreciate a multicultural society the moment they are born. They have neighbors, friends, and even relatives that moved to Germany. It is something that defines our country. It doesn't take foreigners to spread a virus called extremist, nowadays a single website or a video on YouTube can do that. People, including German citizens of "German blood", watch videos and convert to (in this case) Islam. They start feeling like they are finally being useful and appreciated by their surroundings. There are lots of converted Muslims that are NOT radical, but also a few that are. Thus concluding that it isn't something that can be taken care of by simply not allowing refugees to live a peaceful life in Germany. Anyone could be violent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Germany was rebuilt thanks to foreign workers after the world wars. Of course, their children and grandchildren belong to Germany and they have every right to. Most immigrants or German citizens with roots adapt to the lifestyles in Germany. They behave. There are thousands of districts in Germany living in peace and tolerance BECAUSE of foreigners. Most Germans learn to appreciate a multicultural society the moment they are born. They have neighbors, friends, and even relatives that moved to Germany. It is something that defines our country. It doesn't take foreigners to spread a virus called extremist, nowadays a single website or a video on YouTube can do that. People, including German citizens of "German blood", watch videos and convert to (in this case) Islam. They start feeling like they are finally being useful and appreciated by their surroundings. There are lots of converted Muslims that are NOT radical, but also a few that are. Thus concluding that it isn't something that can be taken care of by simply not allowing refugees to live a peaceful life in Germany. Anyone could be violent. True. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I understand, but you need to focus on all extremists who call for violence. Like nazi who burns a building is not different than radical muslim who burns a building. You shouldn't say, who cares about nazis, lets focus only on muslim radicals, and then you start to spread the list what that radical might be, and you include people who would not physically harm you but they "look scary".I agree, but most Germans don't take nazis seriously. We've reached a point where we believe that nazis will never ever be powerful again. I don't know why, but most Germans don't see a threat in them (as an immigrant myself I definitely do). Should we take care of them nonetheless? Definitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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