Taylor Swift's label EXPOSES Spotify

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Spotify should definitely end.

 

Well at least stop streaming big artists. Hearing that a bigger artist has a new album sells itself. Spotify just streams the music whenever, which can cause low album sales, because the public doesn't care enough to actually purchase the songs.

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Up and coming artists need exposure as well. I know a lot of unsigned or artists on smaller labels that heavily promote their work on Spotify. Where else will you hear the albums or songs of these smaller artists? It's a great place to expose your work to the public. Taylor Swift isn't rallying this cause for the little people and even if she were, it's really not her place. She feels as though she is entitled to more money.

 

Not in relation to what I quoted, but the people defending T-Swift are acting like she is not getting any compensation for her work. She's getting $500,000+ from streams. Let's not act like it's being given away for free.

But Shake It Off had a massive amount of streams because of how popular the song was. The amount of times that song was played on Spotify was surely worth more than $500,000. I'm not saying she needs the money, but if she earns that amount of money because of one of her singles, then she deserves to get it. She may have a lot of money, but she had a hit song that made even more money. Just because she has a lot of money already doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve to earn the money made by a song she put out. She put in the work to make and write the song, she has the right to reap the benefits of it. It's not her fault that so many people love it and streamed it or bought it. She just made the song. She earned that money, and she deserves to get paid fairly for it. $500,000 is not fair when compared to how big her song was.

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Music not The bling ha impact :sis:

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Vapid? look up a saying that contains kettle and black, it applies here.

So you are calling an artists defending her art greedy?

 

Yes she is defending the monetary aspect of it

 

But think about the little guy AS STATED BY THE OP

 

and  i will continue to use all caps til the point is crossed that just as gaga is defending art and artists SO IS TAYLOR

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So you are calling an artists defending her art greedy?

 

Yes she is defending the monetary aspect of it

 

But think about the little guy AS STATED BY THE OP

 

and  i will continue to use all caps til the point is crossed that just as gaga is defending art and artists SO IS TAYLOR

 

Well if you look back you will see that I never have said anything about greed or money. 

Streaming is increasing in popularity with or without Taylor. 

 

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According to the logic of some of you the following sentence is completely plausible:
"You've worked really hard, but you already have had a paycheck last month, you're gonna be fine without the money, maybe I'll pay half of it next month if I want to"

Taylor can afford pulling her songs from something unprofitable. But look at the numbers of the music industry: You are f*cked up if you don't have a multi-platinum-selling hit or album. The demand for music has been steady but the market has changed: People don't want to pay their artists. They want everything for free.

 

But appearently they are way more willing to pay 600$ for a new smartphone every year 

 

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This just makes me feel like she's only in it for the money. I mean, I guess that's okay, after all it's her job, but I can't really fully respect someone as an artist when they put monetary interest ahead of their work. It's not like she desperately needs the money Spotify "takes" from her. Personally, if I was a successful artist, I'd want as many people as possible to hear my music, the money would be an extra. And it definitely wouldn't be that important if I was swimming on it

but you aren't the only one that gets paid. You have an entire team with even the smallest job that still have mouths to feed

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But Shake It Off had a massive amount of streams because of how popular the song was. The amount of times that song was played on Spotify was surely worth more than $500,000. I'm not saying she needs the money, but if she earns that amount of money because of one of her singles, then she deserves to get it. She may have a lot of money, but she had a hit song that made even more money. Just because she has a lot of money already doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve to earn the money made by a song she put out. She put in the work to make and write the song, she has the right to reap the benefits of it. It's not her fault that so many people love it and streamed it or bought it. She just made the song. She earned that money, and she deserves to get paid fairly for it. $500,000 is not fair when compared to how big her song was.

Spotify is broadening the access to your music. Artists will have to choose between a) allowing the general public access to the music you worked hard on and receiving compensation or b) not allowing the general public access to your music because you believe the compensation is too little. At this point, most artists are choosing option A. Taylor is entitled to the belief that she deserves more money and not allow Spotify to use her work, but many artists prefer to have their music listened to and appreciated. As said, I use Spotify quite often and what music I purchase is a result of what I hear and enjoy on Spotify. In the end I think most artists enjoy the exposure more than the money they could be raking in.

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"less than $500,000"

I weep for you. :dead:

it's 500,000 split up between every single person who had a hand in making the album though.

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but you aren't the only one that gets paid. You have an entire team with even the smallest job that still have mouths to feed

I actually hadn't thought of it like that!

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Streaming is the way that things are going. There's no way around it. People want what they want right at the moment that they want it. Spotify, Netflix, on-demand TV, whatever, it's the direction that things are heading. Can't stop it.

 

And as someone said earlier, it's not about saving the smaller artists. I am sure those artists are really glad that people can easily access their music, so they can play bigger gigs or festivals, and maybe get noticed and signed.

 

What I think is funny though, and that I've seen people on this forum go on about, is how Spotify is so bad because you can only listen to playlists, and there's ads and it doesn't give any money to the artists... well, THEN PAY FOR IT. IT'S CHEAP. Endless music and you're helping to contribute in the direction that music is inevitably heading.

 

I never payed for a single song or album in my whole life. I pirated. But then Spotify came, and I immediately jumped aboard and paid monthly. Since then, I've started buying albums and singles that I like.

 

But I do agree that Spotify can hurt album sales of the larger artists... but there's an easy solution to that, imo. Either restrict new albums to paying users, or just delay the release a few weeks. Now, there, Taylor can stop crying about not breaking the album sales record. Buhu.

 

But really, Spotify is such a small factor in the big picture. YouTube, Pandora, Soundcloud, Rdio, Grooveshark, Google Play, Last.fm, WiMP. The loss of sales is not because of Spotify. It's because the industry is changing. Live with it.

 

(First post from longtime lurker, btw. Hi.)

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For her and her minions

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Streaming is the way that things are going. There's no way around it. People want what they want right at the moment that they want it. Spotify, Netflix, on-demand TV, whatever, it's the direction that things are heading. Can't stop it.

 

And as someone said earlier, it's not about saving the smaller artists. I am sure those artists are really glad that people can easily access their music, so they can play bigger gigs or festivals, and maybe get noticed and signed.

 

What I think is funny though, and that I've seen people on this forum go on about, is how Spotify is so bad because you can only listen to playlists, and there's ads and it doesn't give any money to the artists... well, THEN PAY FOR IT. IT'S CHEAP. Endless music and you're helping to contribute in the direction that music is inevitably heading.

 

I never payed for a single song or album in my whole life. I pirated. But then Spotify came, and I immediately jumped aboard and paid monthly. Since then, I've started buying albums and singles that I like.

 

But I do agree that Spotify can hurt album sales of the larger artists... but there's an easy solution to that, imo. Either restrict new albums to paying users, or just delay the release a few weeks. 

 

But really, Spotify is such a small factor in the big picture. YouTube, Pandora, Soundcloud, Rdio, Grooveshark, Google Play, Last.fm, WiMP. The loss of sales is not because of Spotify. It's because the industry is changing. Live with it.

 

(First post from longtime lurker, btw. Hi.)

so many interesting points in this post

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awe, poor baby! making more money than a lot of people see in their lifetimes must be so tough, you better remove all your music from access to much of the general public!

First comment and is on point, Slay :legend:

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But if Gaga had done this everyone would be like "Yaaaasssss Mama, show it to them, work it girl, you own the world... Yaaasssss" 

 

You always say this, but it simply isn't true. Gaga gets attacked on this site for riding a bike, she gets attacked in a thread where some other artists talked **** about her and her fans. People here would come at her full force for this same move and the media would crucify her!

 

Having said that, I'm glad Taylor and others like Beyoncé and Coldplay are starting to hold some of the streaming services accountable for the trade-off that isn't working out to be a good one for most major label artists. I've defended this move repeatedly for the past couple of weeks, so I would do the same with Gaga. I've also stated repeatedly that I hope that Gaga does do the same with her next album release!