Kesha sues Dr. Luke

[MattMonster 0]

Sincerely, I'm so sad.

As a fan, I almost cried when I saw that.

 

May that monster spend his life in jail.

[Rat Boy 43,594]

some of u say it was like fistting thing and u say it was the opposite.... what was that he did to her? :deadbanana:

Oh I see ... maybe shes just looking for attention

This is coming from a straight guy. Fingering is when you put one or two fingers in a woman's vagina and as if it was a penis.

[ALX 170]

Oh, DON'T EVEN try the defensless female and tyrannical male.

And there is NO ONE giving Dr. Luke the benefit of the doubt. NO ONE. Does he have a fanbase which will slit the throat of anyone who they think could possibly harm their fave? No. Does Ke$ha? Yeah.

Is he the powerful public figure? No. Is Ke$ha? Indeed.

Had this been any non mainstream pop girl or something people wouldn't even flinch at the thought of a girl being s-xually, physically and emotionally abused. But because Kesha is who she is, people will back her up and instantly blame Dr. Luke.

If you look at Kesha's statments objectively, they seem like over exaggerations used in order to maniuplate the jury/viewers. It's clearly being told in a way that pulls on your heart strings. Look at this thread: almost no one is standing up for the other guy who hasn't even been given the chance to speak for himself. They're showing what Kesha is saying but what about the guy who hasn't got the chance to speak yet? Everyone is rushing to say he should rot in prison.

And you think Kesha can't ruin him? Psh. She can (not saying she has) make up some story and then everyone feels so bad for her and that raises public interest and more managers and producers would work with her while as Dr. Luke, who doesn't have a fanbase, will be left to clean up his image.

 

Perhaps because he's such an important figure in the development of mainstream pop music from 1998-today, no one would think to say anything

 

His entire source of income stems from the line of artists who want to work with him to get a hit. I'm sure most of them will do absolutely anything to get there and obviously those who have already worked with him still need him for future success

 

More people would certainly not look to working with her in the future, but she would go down as someone who stood up for what they believe in

 

A SIX ALBUM CONTRACT is beyond ridiculous and it shows he had no intention of ever letting her go

Kelly and Pink aren't under his contract. Kesha, Becky J, Bonnie McKee and GRL are. I wonder if Bonnie got some $$$ from Katy's hit's. 

 

Bonnie most certainly did get a cut of royalties under her publishing deal from any song she's written

[nikola 4,342]

Ohh this is so sad..... :emo:  :(  :cry:

[Vernier 3,786]

She'd seriously have to be a psychopath if she was lying about all this. Poor her.

But surely, it couldn't have been just her? Wouldn't be nice if someone else that's worked with him spoke up too.

[SEVDALIZA 1,274]

I can't be the only one to see how this song could be the reflex of this situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3Cn68f7MQ

 

Oh, tonight,

I'm not afraid to die,
Not afraid to cry.
I'll learn to fight,
Because I've lived and learned

 

As in she's finally voicing her abuses, not being afraid of "dying", that is, putting her career in risk.

 

I hope everything turns out in her favor and if it all was indeed true, Luke gets what he deserves.

[homomo 23,883]

This man should rot in hell. I'm standing by Kesha until the very end! :legend:

[Diamond Heart 4,400]

Oh, DON'T EVEN try the defensless female and tyrannical male.

And there is NO ONE giving Dr. Luke the benefit of the doubt. NO ONE. Does he have a fanbase which will slit the throat of anyone who they think could possibly harm their fave? No. Does Ke$ha? Yeah.

Is he the powerful public figure? No. Is Ke$ha? Indeed.

Had this been any non mainstream pop girl or something people wouldn't even flinch at the thought of a girl being s-xually, physically and emotionally abused. But because Kesha is who she is, people will back her up and instantly blame Dr. Luke.

If you look at Kesha's statments objectively, they seem like over exaggerations used in order to maniuplate the jury/viewers. It's clearly being told in a way that pulls on your heart strings. Look at this thread: almost no one is standing up for the other guy who hasn't even been given the chance to speak for himself. They're showing what Kesha is saying but what about the guy who hasn't got the chance to speak yet? Everyone is rushing to say he should rot in prison.

And you think Kesha can't ruin him? Psh. She can (not saying she has) make up some story and then everyone feels so bad for her and that raises public interest and more managers and producers would work with her while as Dr. Luke, who doesn't have a fanbase, will be left to clean up his image.

Ok first of all i can try the 'defensless female and tyrannical male' because its true, especially in the music industry which is controlled by men. He has all the power with her career, he can stop her making music, making money, singing with other people etc.  And yes there is countless people giving him the benefit of the doubt, go on ATRL or any website reporting this and look at the comments, its all about how shes trying to further her career.

The reason people 'wouldnt flinch' if it wasnt a main pop girl is because of that, they arent a main pop girl. The reason this is getting a lot of attention is because of Kesha's profile and visibility. If it wasnt a main pop girl, it wouldnt be such hot news, therefore less people knowing about it, doesnt mean the people who did find out wouldnt care.

I am looking at Kesha's statements objectively, why would the go to court without pulling out everything they had against him? And he has had a chance to defend himself, as you can see by the lawsuit he filed in response. Everyone is saying he should rot in prison due to the implication that he committed these atrocities. So you would rather everyone doubt what she says and instantly believe him ? I already explained in my previous comment to you (which you completely ignored) my status on victims of s-xual abuse, which is to give them the benefit of the doubt until the verdict and evidence is released.

And yes i think if Kesha won this lawsuit it would damage his brand, ruin him ? no. Look at Chris Brown and his ties with the industry. I think he would continue working with musicians, because he can produce hits.

If Kesha lost? No one would ever work with her again. If she made up the story then he would win, and she would be completely ruined. She has much more to lose here than him.

By the way, my earlier comment wasnt to attack you, i was just voicing my opinion as someone who has been a victim of abuse.

[nikola 4,342]

I can't be the only one to see how this song could be the reflex of this situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3Cn68f7MQ

 

Oh, tonight,

I'm not afraid to die,

Not afraid to cry.

I'll learn to fight,

Because I've lived and learned

 

As in she's finally voicing her abuses, not being afraid of "dying", that is, putting her career in risk.

 

I hope everything turns out in her favor and if it all was indeed true, Luke gets what he deserves.

I hope too.I am so sad for kesha that she had to go trough all of this(if its ture and i think it is).

[Antidote 95]

"Go finish the song so I can buy a yacht"

 

Damn :koons:

 

 

If he really raped her....wow disgusting

[Supersonic 49,376]

I had no idea he was that bad. Disgusting swine of a man. How does the likes of Katy Perry and Marina (and many others) STILL work with this asshole?

 

Marina said like right after Electra Heart was finished that Dr. Luke was the asshole she assumed he was + she didn't like the songs they made together  thatmuch but was contractually obliged to include them on the album and use them as singles. Katy however has no soul.

[homomo 23,883]

She didnt have problem to "suffer" for many years but right after she flops, she wants to break free and start threating Luke with lawsuit which she never officialy send to court. Suspicious

I know I'm a CC and shouldn't be saying this, but you are a LIVING MESS.

Kesha has been under his control for many years, and she loves singing and she loves her career, but more than anything; Kesha loves her fans the most. She didn't want to speak up, because she wanted to be strong for all of them. Kesha was an advocate for being yourself, being free, and not letting anyone else control you; however, she was the one being controlled by Dr. Luke.

I have been a huge fan of Kesha longer than I've been a fan of Lady Gaga. When someone is verbally abused like Kesha was; they don't want to speak out about it. I'm sure she would think it was hypocritical to be an advocate for everything and then express how she is a victim from what she advocates.

And at the flop part... You clearly don't even know her career.. Kesha didn't want C'mon as the second single, nor did she want Crazy Kids. Kesha didn't even want her album to sound the way it did; however Dr. Like controlled her and made it his sound instead of the more rockish direction Kesha wanted. I remember Kesha staying that she wanted Love into the Light, Last Goodbye, Dirty Love, and Past Lives all as singles. However her label (Dr. puke) said no.

[Tropico 4,145]

Perhaps because he's such an important figure in the development of mainstream pop music from 1998-today, no one would think to say anything

His entire source of income stems from the line of artists who want to work with him to get a hit. I'm sure most of them will do absolutely anything to get there and obviously those who have already worked with him still need him for future success

More people would certainly not look to working with her in the future, but she would go down as someone who stood up for what they believe in

A SIX ALBUM CONTRACT is beyond ridiculous and it shows he had no intention of ever letting her go

Bonnie most certainly did get a cut of royalties under her publishing deal from any song she's written

Regardless of how much he has contributed to pop music over the course of his career, if you are as big on an act as Kesha, you need not worry.

And you say people wouldn't wanna work with Kesha? You mean the platnium selling hit maker and international pop force Kesha? I disagree. With her chart power and the right manager, anyone would be happy to work with her to get another hit.

[PopBitch 1,218]

I don't know why but I have this feeling that both of them are twisting the truth. Ke$ha really seems to be milking this and maybe her mom is helping her manipulate the series of events in order for the court to feel pity or whatever.

But Dr. Luke also seems to be hiding the truth.

Pop culture can be such a scandalous mess.

The truth is usually in the middle somewhere.  I have no doubt Kesha experience a lot at the hands of him so young and was controlled by a powerful man and at times received abuse from him, but probably some of her perception of certain events is now clouded so that some of her accusations are skewed.   But I don't think she's a liar like he's saying and making everything up.  I think she's a good person. Why does he even want to work with her now? It's untenable.  Just let her out.  I side with Kesha.

[Tropico 4,145]

Ok first of all i can try the 'defensless female and tyrannical male' because its true, especially in the music industry which is controlled by men. He has all the power with her career, he can stop her making music, making money, singing with other people etc. And yes there is countless people giving him the benefit of the doubt, go on ATRL or any website reporting this and look at the comments, its all about how shes trying to further her career.

The reason people 'wouldnt flinch' if it wasnt a main pop girl is because of that, they arent a main pop girl. The reason this is getting a lot of attention is because of Kesha's profile and visibility. If it wasnt a main pop girl, it wouldnt be such hot news, therefore less people knowing about it, doesnt mean the people who did find out wouldnt care.

I am looking at Kesha's statements objectively, why would the go to court without pulling out everything they had against him? And he has had a chance to defend himself, as you can see by the lawsuit he filed in response. Everyone is saying he should rot in prison due to the implication that he committed these atrocities. So you would rather everyone doubt what she says and instantly believe him ? I already explained in my previous comment to you (which you completely ignored) my status on victims of s-xual abuse, which is to give them the benefit of the doubt until the verdict and evidence is released.

And yes i think if Kesha won this lawsuit it would damage his brand, ruin him ? no. Look at Chris Brown and his ties with the industry. I think he would continue working with musicians, because he can produce hits.

If Kesha lost? No one would ever work with her again. If she made up the story then he would win, and she would be completely ruined. She has much more to lose here than him.

By the way, my earlier comment wasnt to attack you, i was just voicing my opinion as someone who has been a victim of abuse.

The industry is not "controlled by men". That is far from true. I wouldn't say either s-x even has control over the industry because a lot of acts are females and they're what keeps the music indurtry alive (I'm talking about the acts, not the s-x) and they may be the corporate male business men keeping the industry in order. But no one has control. And Kesha is FAR from defensless. I hear she has Michael Jacksons lawyers? And not to mention, with all these statments she's releasing, she already has everyone eating out her hands feeling so sorry for her.

It just goes to show that if Kesha wasn't Kesha, a lot of people wouldn't care about what happened to her or even doubt the legitimicy of her accusations. And I choose to look at it like that... A normal guy and a normal girl. The guy is the employer and the girl is the employee. The girl has a lot of reasons to twist the truth.

I'd rather we not rush to make any accusations until further evidence is brought to the table, period. Because what do we have now? A supposed victim who says she was abused? And a guy who says the mother and girl are trying to sabotage his contract? He-says-she-says type of thing rn. And just because she's a supposed victim to s-xual abuse, doesn't mean we should just give her the benefit of the doubt just because of what she says. We should look at what both parties have brought to the table and identify the motives and statements. Not just "err, well, she says she has been violated so yeah I'll just follow her." That's manipulation at it's finest.

And if Kesha lost she'd still be approached. Why? Because she's a mega pop star. No matter what happens in the future of this case, she still has all those hits under her belt and her fanbase so anybody will be lucky to work with her.