FKAJAKE 5 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I'm Scottish, and this Thursday will be my first ever vote. I'm unsure as hell as to what I'm going to vote for, I used to be strong No but now I understand the Yes campaign so much better, so I'm swaying. I'm nervous to see what comes from it all. There is no right choice, really. Are you serious? It's way bigger than 'Attention Seeking', I can't believe anyone could say that Ugh the yes voters act like the rest of Britain (basically just Westminster, so England) have been enslaving scots for centuries and ****, like no the UK has helped Scotland, and apart from the north sea oil I haven't really heard a very substantial plan for how the Scottish government plans to pay for anything. of course it's way bigger than 'attention seeking', but going independent is such a big decision and it's so stupid when yes voters act like Scotland will have a bigger economy than the USA if they go independent. Throughout all the articles and news broadcasts and speeches, the common theme of 'Scottish pride' is there, which is bull**** because Scotland is as much a part of the UK as England Wales and Northern Ireland. As soon as Scotland goes independent, the UK wont be able to help it out anymore, you'll be on ur own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 More scaremongering I love how Yes campaigners label any hard financial facts as "scaremongering" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,860 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Im guessing bond yielde must of risen and the currency must of dropped quite a bit with so much being pulled out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKAJAKE 5 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 They'll manage eventually. No worries. It needs to happen. of course they'll manage, like it's not like Scotland will burn in flames, but it'll be much easier for them to stay with the UK, and they'll be a lot worse of than the UK will be if they leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee 1,790 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 the yes voters act like the rest of Britain (basically just Westminster, so England) have been enslaving scots for centuries and ****, like no the UK has helped Scotland, and apart from the north sea oil I haven't really heard a very substantial plan for how the Scottish government plans to pay for anything. of course it's way bigger than 'attention seeking', but going independent is such a big decision and it's so stupid when yes voters act like Scotland will have a bigger economy than the USA if they go independent. Throughout all the articles and news broadcasts and speeches, the common theme of 'Scottish pride' is there, which is bull**** because Scotland is as much a part of the UK as England Wales and Northern Ireland. As soon as Scotland goes independent, the UK wont be able to help it out anymore, you'll be on ur own. Oh I agree with you completely. These reasons are partly why I'm still an undecided voter. Your wording made me think you were ignorant, so sorry for misunderstanding your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKAJAKE 5 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I love how Yes campaigners label any hard financial facts as "scaremongering" can you stop scaremongering ill report u Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 can you stop scaremongering ill report u sry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKAJAKE 5 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Oh I agree with you completely. These reasons are partly why I'm still an undecided voter. Your wording made me think you were ignorant, so sorry for misunderstanding your point. nah it's not like I'm completely educated on the subject, but it's a lot easier for the yes campaign to sway Scottish people because they can refer to the economic problems in Scotland and just blame Westminster, but in reality English politicians and Scottish politicians are all the same and with independence there will still always be pockets of unemployment, and other economic problems that no government can fix entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I love how Yes campaigners label any hard financial facts as "scaremongering" It is scaremongering, a lot of companies have said "they will pull of the Scotland if they come independent" and a lot have said it because 'Better Together' have said it Remember vote Yes for a better country guys Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 nah it's not like I'm completely educated on the subject, but it's a lot easier for the yes campaign to sway Scottish people because they can refer to the economic problems in Scotland and just blame Westminster, but in reality English politicians and Scottish politicians are all the same and with independence there will still always be pockets of unemployment, and other economic problems that no government can fix entirely. It is westminister's fault the country is the state it is in, It's cause of Thatcher and her shutting down all the industries in Scotland. Tony Blair was getting the country back into shape before 9/11 happened then again he tried, then he stepped down, Gordon Brown took over, he was in a year before the economic crisis happened due to an American Bank going bust (an after effect of 9/11) Then in 2009 the MP expenses scandel happened which put Tax Payers money to something that wasn't necessary, Then in 2010 the tories were elected and cuts were instanty made, VAT was increased putting pressure on families already struggling to pay for food. Then the Government made unnecessarly welfare changes (Child Benefit, Bedroom Tax) meanwhile a lot of people are going to foodbanks due to parents unable to feed their children, due to unemployment or Zero Contract Hours. While in the Scottish Parliament was helping families - Free Prescriptions, More Free Childcare, Free tution fees that is helping out families. So it's a force of good and bad. I mean if we can have government in we have right now in Edinburgh in a independent country Child Poverty and Food banks would start to disappear. The UK might be a rich country... For the Rich yes As the saying goes - the rich gets richer and the poorer gets poorer Yeah. Independence won't be all easy, It will be a bumpy road but it is far better than any Westminister can do Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKAJAKE 5 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It is westminister's fault the country is the state it is in, It's cause of Thatcher and her shutting down all the industries in Scotland. Tony Blair was getting the country back into shape before 9/11 happened then again he tried, then he stepped down, Gordon Brown took over, he was in a year before the economic crisis happened due to an American Bank going bust (an after effect of 9/11) Then in 2009 the MP expenses scandel happened which put Tax Payers money to something that wasn't necessary, Then in 2010 the tories were elected and cuts were instanty made, VAT was increased putting pressure on families already struggling to pay for food. Then the Government made unnecessarly welfare changes (Child Benefit, Bedroom Tax) meanwhile a lot of people are going to foodbanks due to parents unable to feed their children, due to unemployment or Zero Contract Hours. While in the Scottish Parliament was helping families - Free Prescriptions, More Free Childcare, Free tution fees that is helping out families. So it's a force of good and bad. I mean if we can have government in we have right now in Edinburgh in a independent country Child Poverty and Food banks would start to disappear. The UK might be a rich country... For the Rich yes As the saying goes - the rich gets richer and the poorer gets poorer Yeah. Independence won't be all easy, It will be a bumpy road but it is far better than any Westminister can do you do realise that Scottish MP's are included in Westminster Scotland is no different to the UK, and the government probably won't be able to afford tuition fee's. you literally sound so brainwashed, and if anyone is scaremongering it's you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 687 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 do we want to part of a country happy to spend £8m on Thatcher's funeral and fund the Rolls-Royce that the queen wheels up everywhere in when they could spend it on the fifth of the population that live below the poverty line?? if that's not enough of a reason to vote yes then also please understand that voting yes doesn't mean you're supporting alex salmond and/or SNP. the referendum vote is for independence and there will be a later vote to decide what party you support. many are green yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 do we want to part of a country happy to spend £8m on Thatcher's funeral and fund the Rolls-Royce that the queen wheels up everywhere in when they could spend it on the fifth of the population that live below the poverty line?? if that's not enough of a reason to vote yes then also please understand that voting yes doesn't mean you're supporting alex salmond and/or SNP. the referendum vote is for independence and there will be a later vote to decide what party you support. many are green yes. Do you want to be ONLY a country that spent hundreds of millions on a USELESS tram service in Edinburgh, when simply increasing the number of buses would've sufficed + been substantially cheaper? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 687 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Do you want to be ONLY a country that spent hundreds of millions on a USELESS tram service in Edinburgh, when simply increasing the number of buses would've sufficed + been substantially cheaper? I won't be defending the badly executed trams project but yes, I'd rather be a part of this country than of the UK with the situation I described before. I'm not interested in the possibility of a privatised NHS or having to pay for my tuition fees. I'm not interested in being under the rule of a government I didn't vote in, that fails to meet its aims miserably, that would rather spend money on nuclear bombs than on the poor, that introduced the bedroom tax......... the list goes on. I've yet to see an argument of the No campaign that actually holds any standing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 So what will come of this if Scotland exits from the UK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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